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Old 04-16-2009, 11:25 PM   #1 (permalink)
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MLB 2012: The Return of Roids?

Alright actually this is because I downloaded Padre's stadium mod that adjusts all the mlb stadiums to fit the real life modifiers for each. I had the feeling that doing this would mess up my season stats due to more hitter friendly parks, but upon checking all the stadium modifiers averaged out to around .99 etc so I figured it would be alright. I now know that I should have trusted my instincts because some of the numbers that are being put up are way too high. It's July 13 with three games to go till the all star break and here's how it breaks down, let me know what you think.

In terms of HRs there is

2 with 36
1 with 31
1 with 29
1 with 27
2 with 26
3 with 23
5 with 22
1 with 21
4 with 20

additionally there's another 30 players with 15 or more home runs so far

Also to top it all off here is the assault on Ted Williams

3 players are batting over .380 with the league leader batting .390
and astounding 33 players batting over .330 overall

Anyway obviously things are way out of wack. My question is what exactly can I do about it. Will my modifiers for my league totals adjust themselves and even things out for next season or should I just scratch the ballparks and reinstall the old ones. I think sometimes in our pursuit to have realism we fail to realize that certain things in the game operate in a certain way that's clearly beyond our comprehension. Any help will be appreciated thanks.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:02 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's a known issue with versions 2006-9 that the first season in a new universe usually has steroid numbers. This is why many players sim the first season and 'start playing' with season two.

In other words, my guess is that the problem isn't with the stadium set, UNLESS you have an interesting synergistic effect with top home run hitters playing in bandboxes and top contact men hitting in high batting average parks. That's possible, but not likely.

If what you're seeing continues into 2013, then you should look at dumping the stadium mod and starting over. Right now I don't think you have a big enough statistical set to draw a conclusion.
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Old 04-17-2009, 12:22 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Curtis thanks for the help really appreciate it. I didn't know about the first season thing but I guess that makes sense as my first season in 2008 produced higher totals than it should have etc so I guess this is just the game adjusting itself. I totaled and averaged all the modifiers like I said and they all are right dead around 1 which is what it should be so this was a bit perplexing etc. I mean, there certainly are some hitter friendly parks but nothing crazy 1.03 1.04 the highest is coors field with 1.1 for homers and some others. So basically Curtis if all holds true everything should even itself out next season and I can chalk up to 2012 to a new pe substance that will be banned in 2013? once again thanks for taking the time to respond appreciate it.
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It might not even itself out in 2012, it may take a few years. Or it might be back to normal in 2012. I don't think even Markus could tell you how it is going to fluctuate.
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Old 04-17-2009, 01:22 AM   #5 (permalink)
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The thing is i dont quite understand why or how it flucated in the first place. its 2012 now and things were fine up until now for the most part. The only thing i did was adjust the ballpark dimensions and the funny thing is my park citizens bank was at 1.05 for home runs and everything else etc. that number is now around 1.02-1.03 and if anything home runs are way up. I'm hoping this evens itself out otherwise my league is toast. What exactly do the league modifiers mean and if i had to adjust them how would it work? Im still holding out hope that like curtis said this all just passes after the season. I should mention curtis that I've been playing this season since 2008 with the default stadiums and upon switching to the new park dimensions this occured so it has to do with at least partly the stadium dimensions coming into play.

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I've been playing this season since 2008 with the default stadiums and upon switching to the new park dimensions this occured so it has to do with at least partly the stadium dimensions coming into play.
My mistake, then; I assumed this was a new league.

I guess my new recommendation would be to save at this point, then sim through the end of 2013. If things go back to normal, then revert to your saved game and continue, mentally marking off 2012 as your version of 1930 or 1987 (anomalous years in real baseball). If things don't improve in 2013, then probably you're toast and will have to start over.

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Old 04-18-2009, 01:48 AM   #7 (permalink)
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backed up the game and simmed well into 2013 and everything seems to be back to normal if anything home run totals seem to be slightly a hair below average which is great. If i'm not mistaken the modifier percentages for the league readjust each year based on the totals at the end of the year for the league. So in essence the number of homers for todays modern season is X number and whatever the total is at the end of your season the modifier will turn up or down depending on how far above or below it was the previous year. For my roid season it was 1.06 which and in 2013 it turned down to 1.02 so it makes sense. Averages were still slightly high but nothing unreal, a guy was hitting .390 well into july but he was the lone exception with the other leaders in the .340- .360 range. it came down to around .375 in august too. anyway thanks curtis for the idea, im so glad i didnt have to delete my game. for whatever reason i guess modifying the parks threw everything off for the year because there were more hitter friendly ones for home runs etc. They all still average right around to one so I should be ok in the future correct? The only thing i noticed upon restoring the backup game is that all the team logos were gone which is annoying but minor in the grand scheme of things. thanks guys.

P.S. Howard ended the simmed season with 65 home runs, as illegitimate as it might have been it would have been nice for him to get a few more and take bonds off the record books. would have made the season worth it.

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I'm glad you didn't lose your dynasty. Good luck in 2014.
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Old 04-18-2009, 06:55 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Curtis and others sorry to keep barraging you with questions but i have a couple final ones if you dont mind. I'm planning on continuing the remainder of my 2012 season from my backup and realized that i could possibly tweak the league modifier to lower the home run totals for the remaining two months of the season. When I checked the league modifier for it in the following year when it normalized it was around 1.02 so i was wondering if i lowered it to around that now what would be the consequence? how do these things work exactly? it says 1.000 equals modern performance so obviously 1.06 is too high but i guess it adjusts to what the league needs to meet the totals. My fear is that i lower it from 1.06 for the remainder of 2012 and then the game sees the lower number i put in such as 1.03 and all the home runs and thus lowers the 1.03 even further to .98 or something like that if you know what i mean. if anyone knows how stat modifiers work feel free it would be greatly appreciated.
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Sorry, I know nothing. I only change my modifiers between January 1 and the start of spring training.
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Old 04-20-2009, 08:21 PM   #11 (permalink)
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not gonna believe this but after doing what curtis told me to simply backing the game up and restarting it, everything has gone back to normal. Since the allstar break home run totals are adjusting, stolen base totals, everything is adjusting to normal for some reason. I attributed the problems to the new ball park modifiers i put in which is most likely the case but still the whole thing is just weird. even injuries are down which i attribute to the game taking out high profile batters in order to try to keep the stats lower. I dunno at this point i just hope things continue to stay normal but im scared between all the injuries the damage has been done. I had well over 40 of the better to great players in my league out for the year going into august so god only knows what they're gonna be like next year. any ideas why this happened?
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