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Old 06-03-2003, 01:10 AM   #21 (permalink)
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3) Try a European league. Get the Euro names files and have it.
I always do that, and I know many others do.
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I actually thought about doing this:

Nine planets in the solar system. Two teams on each planet. 18 team league. Stadiums that seat upwards of 100,000. Teams take faster-than-light speed charter flights to each planet for away games. Of course, all teams play in "gravity-equalized" domes.

Teams would have both human and alien players. Imagine the height and weight of a Plutonian, for example, or the power of a Jupiterian.

It was to be called the Interplanetary Baseball Association.

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I thought about this one:

Two leagues of eighteen teams that works like English League soccer - the top teams from the lower league get to move up each year.
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You should join one of them then
I would, but I can't make the time commitment to an online league right now. If I'm gonna do it, I want to give it 100%.
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I actually thought about doing this:

Nine planets in the solar system. Two teams on each planet. 18 team league. Stadiums that seat upwards of 100,000. Teams take faster-than-light speed charter flights to each planet for away games. Of course, all teams play in "gravity-equalized" domes.

Teams would have both human and alien players. Imagine the height and weight of a Plutonian, for example, or the power of a Jupiterian.

It was to be called the Interplanetary Baseball Association.

Dear God, I need another hobby.
Well, Jupiter has no surface, and I believe Saturn, Neptune, and Uranus are in the same boat. Perhaps you could have stadia on the moons, though. I actually once started making fictional ballparks on some of Jupiter's moons once, so I guess I need another hobby too.
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I thought about this one:

Two leagues of eighteen teams that works like English League soccer - the top teams from the lower league get to move up each year.
If Beta Baseball ever expands, I hope to make it work like that. I frequently do it with my solo leagues.
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Another idea: The Pearly Gates League.

Baseball-reference.com has a list by year of all the players that died that year. The premise could be: each year, all the guys that died are brought back as 18-year-olds to play in an afterworld-type league. It'd be interesting because each year would have a mix of guys who died tragically and old-timers who passed away. For instance, Lou Gehrig would come into the league about 25 years before Ty Cobb, and Lyman Bostock and, say, Frankie Frisch would be contemporaries.
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Another idea: The Pearly Gates League.

Baseball-reference.com has a list by year of all the players that died that year. The premise could be: each year, all the guys that died are brought back as 18-year-olds to play in an afterworld-type league. It'd be interesting because each year would have a mix of guys who died tragically and old-timers who passed away. For instance, Lou Gehrig would come into the league about 25 years before Ty Cobb, and Lyman Bostock and, say, Frankie Frisch would be contemporaries.
That's awesome! I may have to try that one!
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How about the Time Reversal League? You start out in 2003 but play out each season in reverse, as if you stumbled into a universe where time flowed backward. Players would appear in their last season as rookies, and "progress" backwards through their careers in reverse order, finally exiting as youngsters of 19 (or 20, or whatever).

Just think: you draft a rickety old geezer and he "youths" into a young superstar years, uh, later...

I think I need a new hobby.
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How about the Time Reversal League? You start out in 2003 but play out each season in reverse, as if you stumbled into a universe where time flowed backward. Players would appear in their last season as rookies, and "progress" backwards through their careers in reverse order, finally exiting as youngsters of 19 (or 20, or whatever).

Just think: you draft a rickety old geezer and he "youths" into a young superstar years, uh, later...

I think I need a new hobby.
That one would be very hard to do with OOTP. You'd have to manually change guys' birthdays each year or something. I would consider simply flipping the Lahman database, though, so that players debuting in 2002 appear in 1901 (or even 1871), and starting from there. You'd probably need to start with just a few teams, though, since there wouldn't be many players (just the 2002 rookies). Or you could just start with all the rookies from the past several years.

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An old timer league where the guys start in the year they retired. Guys who went down early with injury would be at an advantage, while great players who played a long time would start out as old men and quickly become worthless.

The same thing, but adjusting ages so that they're all 18 when they start.
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If Beta Baseball ever expands, I hope to make it work like that. I frequently do it with my solo leagues.
I've got a question for anyone that cares to answer.

How do you make this work? i.e. the mechanics or promoting/demoting teams. Do you use multiple leagues?

I would really like to try this but can't seem to figure out the mechanics.

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Well there are many ways to do it. The way I use is not perfect, but it's really simple. It doesn't have an A league and a B league, but it has two leagues with an A and B division each. I normally start up with two leagues of, say, 8 teams each. One division per league. After the initial season, I take the 4 top teams of league 1 and put them in a division together, and do the same with league 2. The 4 worst teams of each leagues also form two divisions. Every year, the team that finishes with the worse record in division A will be demoted to division B, and the best team in division B will move to division A. I suggest using an unbalanced schedule.

This could be interesting in online leagues because it adds some kind of "prestige" to your team.

I'd like to be able to have a playoff format that would make the top team in division B face the 2nd team in division A, and the winner would meet the best team of division A in lcs.
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Old 06-10-2003, 12:28 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Thanks for the tip!

May just combine the European League idea with a Relegation/Promotion system.

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Barcelona is always very strong in European leagues. so is Amsterdam (of which I am the GM, of course ). I got sick of European leagues though.
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I wanted to do a European league, but even with the Euro names file, I don't get realistic Euro names.

What would be cool is if Markus could make the name files more accessible by allowing us to have a dat file with country names and allow each country to have a listing for a file to look in for first and last names.

In other words, it would look something like:

USA,fnames.dat,names.dat
England,fnames.dat,names.dat
Australia,fnames.dat,names.dat
Canada,fnames.dat,names.dat
Japan,afnames.dat,anames.dat
South Korea,afnames.dat,anames.dat
Puerto Rico,lfnames.dat,lnames.dat
Germany,gfnames.dat,gnames.dat
France,frfnames.dat,frnames.dat

And you could list as many countries/have as many different dat files as you want.

Just an idea. Not a high priority but probably not amazingly hard to do either.
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I am currently working on a Historical/Fictional League starting in 1871 with all Fictional players. I am going to keep the league totals close to real baseball ERA numbers (1871-1899,1900-1920,1921-1945,1946-1960,1961-1979,1980-Present), and the league structure will follow MLB loosely up to 1900, then exactly from 1901 on. I want to see how fictional players develop and perform over the years and compare it to real baseball history.

I will eventually create a Second League project that will combine both fictional and real players. This league will also loosely follow MLB history as far as franchises go, but I will probably double the size to 32 teams to accomodate for the extra players.
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I wanted to do a European league, but even with the Euro names file, I don't get realistic Euro names.
Well what was the problem with them? I personally never used them.

I have a file with a mix of French, Dutch and German names, but I got sick of these names after a couple of solo leagues and moved back (not for long I suppose) to "American" names.
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My problem was that it mixed the nationalities a bit much so that you got too many guys with mixed names like Pierre Eckert or Giovanni Beauchamp.
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Well you know, these are frequent anyway. I mean, lots of Germans give children a French first name, and a lot of French and Belgians (Wallons) have non-French first names.
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