[Scott Vibert]

My #4 starter just pitched the game of his life... having faced the minimum over 7.2 Innings (he walked two but both batters were erased on double plays)... the #6 batter hits a grounder to the pitcher; so I think cool, he's through another inning.... but no he throws it away!!!!

At this point, I cringe, because knowing OOTP4's tendency on any throwing error to score a hit and an error, I know what's coming... yup the pitcher loses his no-no as the grounder is scored a hit and an error. Needless to say when my pitcher polished off the next batter and set the side down in order in the 9th I wasn't happy he lost the no no... (almost to the point of breaking out the old editor and giving the pitcher a no-no manually.... so the official game log will be wrong... at the end of the season no one will know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> )

Looks like my scorer (it was my home park) doesn't understand that in a no hitter it has to be a clean hit to break it up.. needless to say he was fired within a few minutes of game end.

In case someone cares here is the box score (*note I will be editing this, I've decided the pitcher deserves the No Hitter so I'm giving him credit):

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;"> Game No.: 107.
5/14/2003:
Rochester at Portland



1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Rochester 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Portland 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 X 3 5 1



Rochester AB R H BI BB K AVG
H. Bernabe CF 3 0 0 0 1 1 .146
R. Lueras 2B 3 0 0 0 0 0 .250
L. Hernandez RF 3 0 0 0 0 1 .267
C. Slape 1B 3 0 0 0 0 1 .304
B. Dale LF 3 0 0 0 0 2 .145
D. Rucker 3B 3 0 1 0 0 1 .238
K. Fumimaro C 2 0 0 0 1 2 .262
V. DiMarco SS 3 0 0 0 0 0 .130
J. Ward P 2 0 0 0 0 1 .000
C. Casella P 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000
P. Castro PH 1 0 0 0 0 1 .000

Totals: 26 0 1 0 2 10

BATTING:





Portland AB R H BI BB K AVG
R. Feliz RF 3 0 1 0 1 0 .275
J. Pedraza 2B 3 0 0 0 1 1 .340
A. Avant CF 3 1 1 1 1 1 .369
R. Johnstone LF 3 1 0 0 1 0 .472
J. Sheahan SS 4 0 0 0 0 1 .300
J. Sinn C 3 1 1 0 0 0 .297
T. Barber 3B 3 0 2 1 0 0 .317
B. Miller 1B 2 0 0 1 0 0 .167
R. Navarro P 3 0 0 0 0 2 .000

Totals: 27 3 5 3 4 5

BATTING:
Doubles:
R. Feliz (2, 1st inning off Ward, 0 on, 0 out.)

Homeruns:
A. Avant (4, 6th inning off Ward, 0 on, 0 out.)

Runs Batted In:
A. Avant (16), T. Barber (8), B. Miller (5)

Sacrifice Flies:
B. Miller (1)


FIELDING:
Errors:
R. Navarro (1)





PITCHING:

Rochester IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD
J. Ward L 5.2 5 3 3 4 3 98 49 4.77 0-1
C. Casella 2.1 0 0 0 0 2 26 15 0.82

Portland IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD
R. Navarro W 9 1 0 0 2 10 117 69 0.87 2-0



Time: 2:50
Attendance: 30978 (31000)
Weather: Clear skies (53 degrees), wind blowing in from right at 10 mph
PLAYER OF THE GAME: Rodolfo Navarro



Game notes:
Rodolfo Navarro sets a career high for K's in a game!

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[CaLíKrAzY]

Thats ashame too bad so close to getting that NO NO. Hey, did your pitcher let the runner advance to 2nd?

Johnny

[Scott Vibert]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by CaLíKrAzY:
<strong>Thats ashame too bad so close to getting that NO NO. Hey, did your pitcher let the runner advance to 2nd?
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It was a 2 base error... so that runner was on second... but he was the only one to make it that far..

[rferry]

Originally posted by CaLíKrAzY
Thats ashame too bad so close to getting that NO NO. Hey, did your pitcher let the runner advance to 2nd?

Johnny

  H. Bernabe CF       3  0  0  0  1  1  .146

  R. Lueras 2B        3  0  0  0  0  0  .250

  L. Hernandez RF     3  0  0  0  0  1  .267

  C. Slape 1B         3  0  0  0  0  1  .304

  B. Dale LF          3  0  0  0  0  2  .145

  D. Rucker 3B        3  0  1  0  0  1  .238

not unless there can be 5 outs in an inning.

[Qrashman]

since you couldn't really "See" the play, perhaps the runner would have beaten it out anyway, which means it would have been a single and an error.

Sorry, just trying to justify it for you.

[HolyCow98]

Those type of things make you pull your hair out...

Still can't believe your your going over the scorekeeper's head and reversing his/her ruling..

[davep1967]

Originally posted by Qrashman
since you couldn't really "See" the play, perhaps the runner would have beaten it out anyway, which means it would have been a single and an error.

Sorry, just trying to justify it for you.

That's what I was thinking also.

Maybe the broadcaster should be fired also for not giving you a clear picture of the game.

BTW----I think they have 24 or 48 hrs to make a scoring change.

[Scott Vibert]

Originally posted by Qrashman
since you couldn't really "See" the play, perhaps the runner would have beaten it out anyway, which means it would have been a single and an error.

Sorry, just trying to justify it for you.

Except it was a grounder to the pitcher... so I doubt the runner is beating out a grounder to the pitcher... if he is, he's the fastest 3B in history.

In reading the game log it simply says the runner reached base on a throwing error by the pitcher... so I decided to overule and give the pitcher credit for the no hitter... although I do feel kind of bad in that this kind of thing could have happened on a computer simmed game and I may not have noticed and awarded the no hitter to them... so in a way my team is getting an unfair advantage here... but hey the pitcher is E rated for endurance and still only allowed a runner to reach on a ground ball to the pitcher that was thrown away, and completed the first game in his career (at age 37) so I decided he deserved it... plus its the first time I've managed a team and gotten a no hitter out of my pitcher

[davep1967]

Well it could have been a tapper in front of the plate or down the 3rd base line the pitcher had a tough play on.

If the game log says he reached on error, then it should not have been a hit.

Besides, what home team's scorer would rule a hit on a questionable play when the guys got a no-no going in the 8th inning??

I would have fired him also.

[Carplos]

Originally posted by davep1967


That's what I was thinking also.

Maybe the broadcaster should be fired also for not giving you a clear picture of the game.

BTW----I think they have 24 or 48 hrs to make a scoring change.

They have until the end of the series. Though, I'm not sure if they just have until the final game of the series ends, or until one of the teams starts their next game.. but I know they have at least until the end of a series.