1901-2005 Sim finally done - Page 2

Brife71 · 06-27-2006, 03:36 PM

Bill Buckner never devolped properly for the majors. In 835 major league games he hit .281 with 15 homers and 228 RBI. He was beast in the minors tho hitting .402 in 1107 games. Not sure why he never got a good chance to stay in the big leagues.

Ryno was a 2 time all star and won the MNP once. Over his 16 year career he played for the Phillies, White Sox, Angels, Mets and 1 game wit the Rockies, before he retired. He had a .285 lifetime batting average, 2220 hits, 232 homers, 1078 RBI and 426 steals. even with those number it wasn't quite enough to get him in the Hall tho.

Mark Grace played 7 years with the Cubs then bounced all over the majors for the rest of his career (he had just retired at the end of the 2005 season) He had a very nice career racking up 2516 hits, a .285 BA, 167 homers, and 1038 RBI. He was a 3 time all star as well.

baseball brat · 06-28-2006, 11:02 AM

A few players I am curious about...

Todd Zeile, Ray Lankford, Geronimo Pena, Bernard Gilkey, and how about the Federal League standout Benny Kauff???

Brife71 · 06-28-2006, 12:43 PM

Todd Zeile played from 1989-2000 with a number of teams and was just average at best. Over his career he hit .249 with 58 homers and 399 RBI

Ray Lankford had a decent career from 1990-2001 most of it with the Cards. His lifetime totals we a .263 BA, 151 HR's 623 RBI, and 362 steals. His best year was 1995 when he hit .301 with 13 homers 77 RBI amd 36 steals. He won 2 gold gloves during his career as well.

Geronimo Pena only played for 1 year and only 2 games in the majors with 1 AB. That year in the minors he hit .357 in 84 games however.

Bernard Gilkey bounced all over the majors from 1990-2005 and did quite well for himself. His lifetime BA was .285 with 197 HR's 1058 RBI and 337 steals.

Benny Kauf played from 1912-1929 and was quite a good player, compiling a lifetime avg of .285, with 2633 hits, 109 HR's, 1099 RBI, and 477 steals

ctorg · 06-28-2006, 12:56 PM

How about: Dave Kingman, Sid Fernandez, David Cone, Darryl Strawberry, Dwight Gooden, Keith Hernandez, and Gary Carter?

(can you tell which team I favor?)

fauteuil7 · 06-28-2006, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brife71

Dave Righetti got hurt (and quite significant ones alot of the time) almost every year he played, so as you can imagine he never had great stats nor a very long career. He was an all star 2 times, and his career line goes like this. 59-39 record, 3.62 ERA, 739 k's 38 saves.

Thanks! Guys like him and Eckersley always seem to get imported in strange ways because they had so many starts before becoming closers. If you get another moment, do you know what role he was imported with (SP, MR, CL) and also his endurance? This is the most disappointing part about doing historical replays, especially once you get to the 80's. I know that it's a recreation, but I'd like to see guys who were historically starters play as starters and relievers as relievers. The guys who went back and forth from the bullpen and rotation just seem to never get going in either role.

Brife71 · 06-28-2006, 02:33 PM

Dave Kingman played from 71-84 with lots of differnet teams, He was fairly true to form, except after 1980 he got hurt alot and never hit many more homers. He had a .221 career BA, with 185 HR's and 562 RBI. He also won a gold glove.

Sid Fernandez was a good pitcher for the Dodgers for about 4 years, winning 20 games once and 17 2 other years, but then fell off the map. He was a 3 time all-star, going 104-82 over his career with a 3.54 ERA and 1246 K's

David Cone was a good closer for the Royals for 3 years but never did anything else. He was 7-13 with 103 saves, a 2.84 ERA and 217 K's in 244 innings for his career.

Darryl Strawberry had quite a good career but not Hall of Fame worthy. He won 1 gold glove, was MVP once, and a 3 time all star. He had a .249 career average, 395 HR's 1073 RBI, and 410 steals. His best year was 1985 when he hit .272 with 53 homers and 122 RBI.

Dwight Gooden was unbelieveable for 2 years....He won rookie of the year, and a most outstanding pitcher award, and was an all star both years he played. Then he ruptured his ulnar collateral ligament in his elbow and that ended his career. His numbers for the 2 years he played were as follows. 46-14, 2.15 ERA, 642 K's in 601.2 innings, and 11 shutouts.

Keith Hernandez had a very nice career. He was MVP once and an 8 time All-Star. He had 2829 career hits, a .286 BA, 215 HR's, and 1441 RBI.

Gary Carter was a 2 time gold glover, and had pretty decent numbers for a catcher. .267 BA, 119 HR's, 565 RBI. But had to retire due to blurred vision in 85 cutting his career short

Brife71 · 06-28-2006, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by fauteuil7

Thanks! Guys like him and Eckersley always seem to get imported in strange ways because they had so many starts before becoming closers. If you get another moment, do you know what role he was imported with (SP, MR, CL) and also his endurance? This is the most disappointing part about doing historical replays, especially once you get to the 80's. I know that it's a recreation, but I'd like to see guys who were historically starters play as starters and relievers as relievers. The guys who went back and forth from the bullpen and rotation just seem to never get going in either role.

He was imported as a starter. He played as a starter for 4 years then was in the bullpen. No idea what his enduance was at the beginning but it shows up as 9 when I look now. Course he's been retired for a while

fauteuil7 · 06-28-2006, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brife71

He was imported as a starter. He played as a starter for 4 years then was in the bullpen. No idea what his enduance was at the beginning but it shows up as 9 when I look now. Course he's been retired for a while

Well that's true. His endurance now probably only matters when chasing his grandkids around.

How did Eck do? I'm trying to think of other players like them...Smoltz, but he wasn't a closer long enough. Is there anyone else you can think of who would be similar? Mariano Rivera almost always stays a starter in my replays. Jason Isringhausen? Tom Gordon? You don't have to post how they all did, I'm just throwing some names out there to see if the import mechanism is kinder to these types of pitchers than in 6.5.

Wasp · 06-28-2006, 04:35 PM

How did Phil Niekro, Joe Niekro, and Swede Risberg do?

Brife71 · 06-28-2006, 06:04 PM

Eckersley played for 10 years, 8 as a starter and was never very good. 92-164 record, 4.92 ERA.

Rivera was a very bad starter in KC for a while before he retired, Isringhausen was a starter for about half his career. He had a couple good years including his rookie year when he won RoY. Was never any good outta the bullpen.

Gordon, never did much of anything he started about 10 games and was a reliever for about 100 games but was very bad at both then retired.

Phil Niekro never started a game but was a pretty good middle reliever racking up a 35-17 record and a 2.95 ERA over his 11 year career.

Joe Niekro only played 6 years in the majors ending with a 40-46 record and a 3.99 ERA.

Swede Risberg played 6 years in the majors compiling a .263 avg, 6 homers and 101 RBI

ctorg · 06-29-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Brife71

Dave Kingman played from 71-84 with lots of differnet teams, He was fairly true to form, except after 1980 he got hurt alot and never hit many more homers. He had a .221 career BA, with 185 HR's and 562 RBI. He also won a gold glove.

Sid Fernandez was a good pitcher for the Dodgers for about 4 years, winning 20 games once and 17 2 other years, but then fell off the map. He was a 3 time all-star, going 104-82 over his career with a 3.54 ERA and 1246 K's

David Cone was a good closer for the Royals for 3 years but never did anything else. He was 7-13 with 103 saves, a 2.84 ERA and 217 K's in 244 innings for his career.

Darryl Strawberry had quite a good career but not Hall of Fame worthy. He won 1 gold glove, was MVP once, and a 3 time all star. He had a .249 career average, 395 HR's 1073 RBI, and 410 steals. His best year was 1985 when he hit .272 with 53 homers and 122 RBI.

Dwight Gooden was unbelieveable for 2 years....He won rookie of the year, and a most outstanding pitcher award, and was an all star both years he played. Then he ruptured his ulnar collateral ligament in his elbow and that ended his career. His numbers for the 2 years he played were as follows. 46-14, 2.15 ERA, 642 K's in 601.2 innings, and 11 shutouts.

Keith Hernandez had a very nice career. He was MVP once and an 8 time All-Star. He had 2829 career hits, a .286 BA, 215 HR's, and 1441 RBI.

Gary Carter was a 2 time gold glover, and had pretty decent numbers for a catcher. .267 BA, 119 HR's, 565 RBI. But had to retire due to blurred vision in 85 cutting his career short

Thanks. Poor Gooden. The guy can't even reach his potential in a sim!

Odd that Cone ended up a closer.

f.montoya · 06-29-2006, 08:46 AM

Mr. October, Reginald Martinez Jackson. Could you look him up please?

Edit: Reggie! Reggie! Reggie!...

RockiesFan · 06-29-2006, 09:11 AM

Curious about how two of my favorite Rockies ended up (understanding one was likely mid-career):

Todd Helton
Larry Walker

How did the rox do overall in their short history?

ANd what about shoeless Joe Jackson?

Thanks!

illeracula · 06-29-2006, 09:25 AM

Could you look up these folks:

1) Chief Bender
2) Dave Winfield (my alltime favorite)
3) Greg Minton
4) Delino Deshields
5) Johnnie LeMaster

I could ask for many more, but I think 5 is good for now

Thanks in advance...

Brife71 · 06-29-2006, 01:20 PM

Reggie Jackson got to play all of 3 years, tearing his ankle up at the end of his 3rd year ending his career. He had 35 HR's 126 RBI, and a .290 avg during his short time in the majors. Was also an all star once.

Todd Helton was going along very well. He won RoY in 97 hitting .302 with 32 homers and 97 RBI. He played with the Rockies till 2005 when he signed as a FA with the Cubs. For his career he had 1401 hits, 220 homers, 754 RBI and a .308 average. Looks like he's well on his way to the Hall if I kept the sim going.

Larry Walker 2 time MVP, 3 time gold glover, 1 time all star. He's still playing with the Royals in 2005. He's another one that should get to the hall if the sim kept going. 2576 hits, 392 homers, 1375 RBI, along with a .321 average for his career.

Shoeless Joe was MVP once over his long career. He compiled hall of fame numbers including 3891 hits, a .315 average, 1763 RBI, and 453 steals over his career

The Rockies are playin .425 ball over their history but they did win a World Series in 1999, no other playoff appearances tho.

Chief Bender won pitcher of the year once and was inducted into the Hall of Fame. He played from 1903-1913 in the majors with a 243-194 record, 3.17 ERA striking out 2466 batters

Dave Winfield won 1 gold glove, 1 MVP award and was an all star 7 times. He had a lifetime .292 avg, 282 homers, 1230 RBI and 2456 hits.

Greg Minton only got to pitch 18 games in the majors, he had a 2-7 record and a 6.87 ERA

DeLino DeShields won a gold glove and had a pretty good career goin then dislocated his shoulder cutting it short. In 9 years he racked up 1058 hits for a .261 average, 47 homers, 407 RBI and 274 steals

Johnnie LeMaster hit .231, with 9 homers and 85 RBI in 8 seasons he spent in the majors. He went up and down from the majors to the minors quite a bit

RockiesFan · 06-29-2006, 02:10 PM

Awesome

Thanks for looking those numbers up.... sounds like a fun sim.

Lidstrom · 06-29-2006, 07:49 PM

How about...

Dale Murphy
Bruce Benedict
Brett Butler
Bob Horner
Dave Concepcion
Bill Doran
Billy Beane

Brife71 · 06-29-2006, 09:59 PM

Dale Murphy was an all star once and a gold glover twice. He hit .240 for his career with 1257 hits, 177 homers, and 649 RBI

Bruce Benedict hit .256 with 22 homers and 124 RBI for his career.

Brett Butler was selected to the All-Star game once, he had a lifetime .284 average with 54 homers, 561 RBI, 1793 hits, and 377 steals

Bob Horner was a 10 All-Star, 4 time gold glover, and a Hall of Famer over his career. He had 3094 hits, a .302 average, 596 HR's, and 1838 RBI for his career.

Dave Concepcion had 1570 hits, a .276 average, 52 homers, 463 RBI, and 267 steals in his career.

Bill Doran was nagged by injuries early in his career and never did too well. He had 448 hits, 31 homers, 196 RBI, 111 steals and a .218 avg.

Billy Beane was the Moonlight Graham of my sim...he played in 1 game never getting an AB in the majors. Played 3 years in the minors and retired (Maybe to become a doctor?)

CHCfan · 06-29-2006, 10:49 PM

Awesome write-ups. How'd the Cubs do over the long stretch? Also, I saw that Sosa didn't crack 500. . . how's his career work out?

Brife71 · 06-29-2006, 11:25 PM

Sosa had a very good career, but at the end it completely fell off the map (kinda like it really happened, just a bit earlier) He had a .270 lifetime average, with 478 homers, 1326 RBI, 1871 hits, and 329 steals. In 2001 he hit 40 homers but could only manage 8 more in 3 more years while he hung on trying to get to 500.

The Cubs were a .495 team over all of history making the playoffs 13 times and winning 5 World Series titles in 1907, 08, and 09. Then in 1927 and their last in 1989

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06-27-2006, 03:36 PM	#21 (permalink)
Brife71 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 284	Bill Buckner never devolped properly for the majors. In 835 major league games he hit .281 with 15 homers and 228 RBI. He was beast in the minors tho hitting .402 in 1107 games. Not sure why he never got a good chance to stay in the big leagues. Ryno was a 2 time all star and won the MNP once. Over his 16 year career he played for the Phillies, White Sox, Angels, Mets and 1 game wit the Rockies, before he retired. He had a .285 lifetime batting average, 2220 hits, 232 homers, 1078 RBI and 426 steals. even with those number it wasn't quite enough to get him in the Hall tho. Mark Grace played 7 years with the Cubs then bounced all over the majors for the rest of his career (he had just retired at the end of the 2005 season) He had a very nice career racking up 2516 hits, a .285 BA, 167 homers, and 1038 RBI. He was a 3 time all star as well.

06-28-2006, 11:02 AM	#22 (permalink)
baseball brat Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 118	A few players I am curious about... Todd Zeile, Ray Lankford, Geronimo Pena, Bernard Gilkey, and how about the Federal League standout Benny Kauff???

06-28-2006, 12:43 PM	#23 (permalink)
Brife71 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 284	Todd Zeile played from 1989-2000 with a number of teams and was just average at best. Over his career he hit .249 with 58 homers and 399 RBI Ray Lankford had a decent career from 1990-2001 most of it with the Cards. His lifetime totals we a .263 BA, 151 HR's 623 RBI, and 362 steals. His best year was 1995 when he hit .301 with 13 homers 77 RBI amd 36 steals. He won 2 gold gloves during his career as well. Geronimo Pena only played for 1 year and only 2 games in the majors with 1 AB. That year in the minors he hit .357 in 84 games however. Bernard Gilkey bounced all over the majors from 1990-2005 and did quite well for himself. His lifetime BA was .285 with 197 HR's 1058 RBI and 337 steals. Benny Kauf played from 1912-1929 and was quite a good player, compiling a lifetime avg of .285, with 2633 hits, 109 HR's, 1099 RBI, and 477 steals

06-28-2006, 02:33 PM	#26 (permalink)
Brife71 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 284	Dave Kingman played from 71-84 with lots of differnet teams, He was fairly true to form, except after 1980 he got hurt alot and never hit many more homers. He had a .221 career BA, with 185 HR's and 562 RBI. He also won a gold glove. Sid Fernandez was a good pitcher for the Dodgers for about 4 years, winning 20 games once and 17 2 other years, but then fell off the map. He was a 3 time all-star, going 104-82 over his career with a 3.54 ERA and 1246 K's David Cone was a good closer for the Royals for 3 years but never did anything else. He was 7-13 with 103 saves, a 2.84 ERA and 217 K's in 244 innings for his career. Darryl Strawberry had quite a good career but not Hall of Fame worthy. He won 1 gold glove, was MVP once, and a 3 time all star. He had a .249 career average, 395 HR's 1073 RBI, and 410 steals. His best year was 1985 when he hit .272 with 53 homers and 122 RBI. Dwight Gooden was unbelieveable for 2 years....He won rookie of the year, and a most outstanding pitcher award, and was an all star both years he played. Then he ruptured his ulnar collateral ligament in his elbow and that ended his career. His numbers for the 2 years he played were as follows. 46-14, 2.15 ERA, 642 K's in 601.2 innings, and 11 shutouts. Keith Hernandez had a very nice career. He was MVP once and an 8 time All-Star. He had 2829 career hits, a .286 BA, 215 HR's, and 1441 RBI. Gary Carter was a 2 time gold glover, and had pretty decent numbers for a catcher. .267 BA, 119 HR's, 565 RBI. But had to retire due to blurred vision in 85 cutting his career short

06-28-2006, 04:35 PM	#29 (permalink)
Wasp Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 9	How did Phil Niekro, Joe Niekro, and Swede Risberg do?

06-28-2006, 06:04 PM	#30 (permalink)
Brife71 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 284	Eckersley played for 10 years, 8 as a starter and was never very good. 92-164 record, 4.92 ERA. Rivera was a very bad starter in KC for a while before he retired, Isringhausen was a starter for about half his career. He had a couple good years including his rookie year when he won RoY. Was never any good outta the bullpen. Gordon, never did much of anything he started about 10 games and was a reliever for about 100 games but was very bad at both then retired. Phil Niekro never started a game but was a pretty good middle reliever racking up a 35-17 record and a 2.95 ERA over his 11 year career. Joe Niekro only played 6 years in the majors ending with a 40-46 record and a 3.99 ERA. Swede Risberg played 6 years in the majors compiling a .263 avg, 6 homers and 101 RBI

06-29-2006, 09:11 AM	#33 (permalink)
RockiesFan Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 36	Curious about how two of my favorite Rockies ended up (understanding one was likely mid-career): Todd Helton Larry Walker How did the rox do overall in their short history? ANd what about shoeless Joe Jackson? Thanks!

06-29-2006, 01:20 PM	#35 (permalink)
Brife71 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 284	Reggie Jackson got to play all of 3 years, tearing his ankle up at the end of his 3rd year ending his career. He had 35 HR's 126 RBI, and a .290 avg during his short time in the majors. Was also an all star once. Todd Helton was going along very well. He won RoY in 97 hitting .302 with 32 homers and 97 RBI. He played with the Rockies till 2005 when he signed as a FA with the Cubs. For his career he had 1401 hits, 220 homers, 754 RBI and a .308 average. Looks like he's well on his way to the Hall if I kept the sim going. Larry Walker 2 time MVP, 3 time gold glover, 1 time all star. He's still playing with the Royals in 2005. He's another one that should get to the hall if the sim kept going. 2576 hits, 392 homers, 1375 RBI, along with a .321 average for his career. Shoeless Joe was MVP once over his long career. He compiled hall of fame numbers including 3891 hits, a .315 average, 1763 RBI, and 453 steals over his career The Rockies are playin .425 ball over their history but they did win a World Series in 1999, no other playoff appearances tho. Chief Bender won pitcher of the year once and was inducted into the Hall of Fame. He played from 1903-1913 in the majors with a 243-194 record, 3.17 ERA striking out 2466 batters Dave Winfield won 1 gold glove, 1 MVP award and was an all star 7 times. He had a lifetime .292 avg, 282 homers, 1230 RBI and 2456 hits. Greg Minton only got to pitch 18 games in the majors, he had a 2-7 record and a 6.87 ERA DeLino DeShields won a gold glove and had a pretty good career goin then dislocated his shoulder cutting it short. In 9 years he racked up 1058 hits for a .261 average, 47 homers, 407 RBI and 274 steals Johnnie LeMaster hit .231, with 9 homers and 85 RBI in 8 seasons he spent in the majors. He went up and down from the majors to the minors quite a bit

06-29-2006, 02:10 PM	#36 (permalink)
RockiesFan Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 36	Awesome Thanks for looking those numbers up.... sounds like a fun sim.

06-29-2006, 07:49 PM	#37 (permalink)
Lidstrom Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 40	How about... Dale Murphy Bruce Benedict Brett Butler Bob Horner Dave Concepcion Bill Doran Billy Beane

06-29-2006, 09:59 PM	#38 (permalink)
Brife71 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 284	Dale Murphy was an all star once and a gold glover twice. He hit .240 for his career with 1257 hits, 177 homers, and 649 RBI Bruce Benedict hit .256 with 22 homers and 124 RBI for his career. Brett Butler was selected to the All-Star game once, he had a lifetime .284 average with 54 homers, 561 RBI, 1793 hits, and 377 steals Bob Horner was a 10 All-Star, 4 time gold glover, and a Hall of Famer over his career. He had 3094 hits, a .302 average, 596 HR's, and 1838 RBI for his career. Dave Concepcion had 1570 hits, a .276 average, 52 homers, 463 RBI, and 267 steals in his career. Bill Doran was nagged by injuries early in his career and never did too well. He had 448 hits, 31 homers, 196 RBI, 111 steals and a .218 avg. Billy Beane was the Moonlight Graham of my sim...he played in 1 game never getting an AB in the majors. Played 3 years in the minors and retired (Maybe to become a doctor?)

06-29-2006, 11:25 PM	#40 (permalink)
Brife71 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Clovis, NM Posts: 284	Sosa had a very good career, but at the end it completely fell off the map (kinda like it really happened, just a bit earlier) He had a .270 lifetime average, with 478 homers, 1326 RBI, 1871 hits, and 329 steals. In 2001 he hit 40 homers but could only manage 8 more in 3 more years while he hung on trying to get to 500. The Cubs were a .495 team over all of history making the playoffs 13 times and winning 5 World Series titles in 1907, 08, and 09. Then in 1927 and their last in 1989