Why don't any of my HoF have AS appearances?

SSG Troyer · 06-11-2006, 01:19 AM

Simming 100 years in my 48-team ML with four levels of minors, and after 35 years, I notice my HoF has 2 players with 1 All-Star appearance.

I have auto-schedule AS game checked, my custom schedule file has the following line ...

{SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGN_G166_SL1_D1_T8_D2_T8_D3_T8_SL2_D1_T8 _D2_T8_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="0" games_per_team="166" start_day_of_week="2" start_month="3" start_day="23" allstar_game_day="103"}

(I've replaced the ">" and "<" with "}" and "{" so the board doesn't think I'm posting html)

but I can't find a single AS game after the first season. Whazzup? Edit: Patched ...

SSG Troyer · 06-11-2006, 11:38 PM

bump

My schedule isn't generating an all star game. Please, can I have an answer why, or a TT?

SSG Troyer · 06-13-2006, 09:38 AM

One last bump before I cross post to the General Forum for more traffic ...

reiterating: The game isn't generating an all-star game into my custom schedule despite being patched, having both AS options checked in the rules, the correct syntax in my custom schedule's file header, and no cross-scheduling (no other games scheduled on day 103 (102 or 104, either)).

Raidergoo · 06-13-2006, 10:22 AM

TT#1848 was created.

Can you explain your 48 team league set up a bit comprehensively? I'd like to try to duplicate.

SSG Troyer · 06-13-2006, 01:59 PM

Two sub-leagues, 3 divisions of 8 teams each. AAA, AA, A, and Rookie Leagues also added, with 1 team in each minor associated with 1 team in the ML, directly corresponding ... i.e. SL1_D1_T1 has AAA_SL1_D1_T1, AA_SL1_D1_T1, A_SL1_D1_T1, and R_SL1_D1_T1 associated with it. I'm presuming names don't matter, but FYI anyway, each ML-through-R organization is in one lower-48-US state.

Rules:

No DH anywhere.
Roster Rules: default (25-no-40-9/1-40-177-3-10-enable option years:true-Rule 5:greyed true) except for Minimum days of service, which is 177.
Trade Rules: Enabled:True - Deadline 7/31 - Trades w/other:True - Allow Draft Pick trading:false
Hist. Rookies: False
Amateur Draft Rules: Amateur Draft:Greyed True - Amateur Draft Date: 3/22 (changed from default in 1925) - Number of rounds 18 (changed from 25 in 1940)
Finacial Rules: 30,000-$12.50-6-true-true-true-3-6-10M-No-0-Yes-Yes-30M-200k-350k-15M-10.6M-6.4M-3M-1M-850k-600k-475k (these have been tweaked 3-4 times over the years, trying to strike a balance I "like."

Options:

Detail: Very High (ML), Normal (AAA), Low (everywhere else)

Spring Training:True

Season Start Date: 3/23
Force Startdate: True - Monday
Auto adjust:True
Number of games: 166
Balanced: False
Series Length: 3
Interleague: False
Schedule loaded from: schedule.lsdl (see attached file)

Hold All-Star: True
Automatically Schedule All-Star: True

Disable Playoffs: False
Playoff-mode: Div+Wildcard
Number WC Teams:1
Number of Playoff Rounds: 3
Best of In Round 1:3 - 2:5 - 3:7 Names (who cares, right?)

Foreigner %: 3 (edited from default in 1910)

HoF Req: 3000-500-.315-2000-750-300-500-3.50-200

The Strategy & Equiv. tab has both "automatically adjust/import": true, and the General Tendencies section changes every 20 years, and should be irrelevent.

Started yearly - year+ sims in 1905, league date now 2-13-1960. I got an all-star game in 1905, not once since.

That should be it ... need more, let me know.

Raidergoo · 06-13-2006, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SSG Troyer

Gotta fininsh simming the year to continue ... I'll edit this in about 1/2 hour ...

You have 1/2 a day, might as well take the time to make your post meet your standards.

SSG Troyer · 06-13-2006, 02:52 PM

edited now ...

Raidergoo · 06-17-2006, 08:54 AM

Built as near duplicate as possible. Simmed. And got results that were similiar.

It was slow simming, but I got enough to tell me something is wrong and I flagged it as a bug.

Current patch testing has started. Initial tests are on memory mgmt and speed. I am not one who has seen issues with either, but judging by the new build, it is HOLY COW.

In the time it took to type this posting, I went from Jan 1st 1976 to June 22nd, 1976.

Ah, now I will have to go through a billion more rounds of patch candidates and see what gets cleaned up vs what is in Test Track.

SSG Troyer · 07-02-2006, 08:17 PM

This was missed in the new TT forum ... is it closed, or still open?

Cowboys3356 · 07-02-2006, 08:48 PM

I am having the same problem with no AS game becoming created when I play historical leagues prior to 1933 despite having the option selected in league setup.

SSG Troyer · 07-02-2006, 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboys3356

I am having the same problem with no AS game becoming created when I play historical leagues prior to 1933 despite having the option selected in league setup.

My fictional league is well past that (now in 1995) and I still have seen only one. In 1905.

Andreas Raht · 07-23-2006, 08:18 AM

I've made changes to the schedule files for seasons w/o ASG (1901-1932 plus 1945). Tested again with the current code.
- Loaded a 1977 historical league and simulated three years. Each year had the correct ASG date as defined in the schedule files, and the game have been played.

- Loaded a 1903 league and simmed some years. No ASG have been scheduled. In the league options, "Hold ASG" has been checked, but the schedule file overrides this setting. The schedule files now contain the setting allstar_game_day="0".

- Attention, if you come to the 1904 season, the schedule file will NOT be used, because the number of games per team is 140 in your league (if a league prior 1904 has been loaded) and the 1904 schedule file has a number of games per team of 154. So you have to stop in pre-season, set the number of games per team to 154 on the league options page, and load the 1904 schedule file.

- Loaded historical league starting 1932. No ASG date has been scheduled. Simmed until 1933, and had an ASG on July 6th.

- Created fictional league (Two sub-leagues, 3 divisions of 8 teams each, "hold ASG" checked) and it had an ASG scheduled and played.

SSG Troyer · 07-24-2006, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

- Created fictional league (Two sub-leagues, 3 divisions of 8 teams each, "hold ASG" checked) and it had an ASG scheduled and played.

But I had one my first season, too. Did you have one your second? And did you use an imported, rather than game-generated, schedule? Could you please, please verify fixed in the second season with the schedule I attached to post #5 above, if you didn't already?

And, nevermind my PM ... I misread the allstar_game_day="0" bit. Thought you had added a new setting, not just accepting a new value. Thanks.

SSG Troyer · 07-31-2006, 12:37 PM

I just started a new season (1996) with build 12262, and no All Star game.

06-11-2006, 01:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,583	Why don't any of my HoF have AS appearances? Simming 100 years in my 48-team ML with four levels of minors, and after 35 years, I notice my HoF has 2 players with 1 All-Star appearance. I have auto-schedule AS game checked, my custom schedule file has the following line ... {SCHEDULE type="ILN_BGN_G166_SL1_D1_T8_D2_T8_D3_T8_SL2_D1_T8 _D2_T8_C_" inter_league="0" balanced_games="0" games_per_team="166" start_day_of_week="2" start_month="3" start_day="23" allstar_game_day="103"} (I've replaced the ">" and "<" with "}" and "{" so the board doesn't think I'm posting html) but I can't find a single AS game after the first season. Whazzup? Edit: Patched ... __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska! Last edited by SSG Troyer; 01-25-2007 at 04:04 PM.

06-11-2006, 11:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,583	bump My schedule isn't generating an all star game. Please, can I have an answer why, or a TT? __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

06-13-2006, 09:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,583	One last bump before I cross post to the General Forum for more traffic ... reiterating: The game isn't generating an all-star game into my custom schedule despite being patched, having both AS options checked in the rules, the correct syntax in my custom schedule's file header, and no cross-scheduling (no other games scheduled on day 103 (102 or 104, either)). __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

06-13-2006, 01:59 PM	#5 (permalink)
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,583	Two sub-leagues, 3 divisions of 8 teams each. AAA, AA, A, and Rookie Leagues also added, with 1 team in each minor associated with 1 team in the ML, directly corresponding ... i.e. SL1_D1_T1 has AAA_SL1_D1_T1, AA_SL1_D1_T1, A_SL1_D1_T1, and R_SL1_D1_T1 associated with it. I'm presuming names don't matter, but FYI anyway, each ML-through-R organization is in one lower-48-US state. Rules: No DH anywhere. Roster Rules: default (25-no-40-9/1-40-177-3-10-enable option years:true-Rule 5:greyed true) except for Minimum days of service, which is 177. Trade Rules: Enabled:True - Deadline 7/31 - Trades w/other:True - Allow Draft Pick trading:false Hist. Rookies: False Amateur Draft Rules: Amateur Draft:Greyed True - Amateur Draft Date: 3/22 (changed from default in 1925) - Number of rounds 18 (changed from 25 in 1940) Finacial Rules: 30,000-$12.50-6-true-true-true-3-6-10M-No-0-Yes-Yes-30M-200k-350k-15M-10.6M-6.4M-3M-1M-850k-600k-475k (these have been tweaked 3-4 times over the years, trying to strike a balance I "like." Options: Detail: Very High (ML), Normal (AAA), Low (everywhere else) Spring Training:True Season Start Date: 3/23 Force Startdate: True - Monday Auto adjust:True Number of games: 166 Balanced: False Series Length: 3 Interleague: False Schedule loaded from: schedule.lsdl (see attached file) Hold All-Star: True Automatically Schedule All-Star: True Disable Playoffs: False Playoff-mode: Div+Wildcard Number WC Teams:1 Number of Playoff Rounds: 3 Best of In Round 1:3 - 2:5 - 3:7 Names (who cares, right?) Foreigner %: 3 (edited from default in 1910) HoF Req: 3000-500-.315-2000-750-300-500-3.50-200 The Strategy & Equiv. tab has both "automatically adjust/import": true, and the General Tendencies section changes every 20 years, and should be irrelevent. Started yearly - year+ sims in 1905, league date now 2-13-1960. I got an all-star game in 1905, not once since. That should be it ... need more, let me know. __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska! Last edited by SSG Troyer; 01-25-2007 at 04:04 PM.

06-13-2006, 02:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,583	edited now ... __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

06-13-2006, 10:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 39.84 N -84.12 W Posts: 8,327 Thanked 53x in 36 posts	TT#1848 was created. Can you explain your 48 team league set up a bit comprehensively? I'd like to try to duplicate.

06-17-2006, 08:54 AM	#8 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 39.84 N -84.12 W Posts: 8,327 Thanked 53x in 36 posts	Built as near duplicate as possible. Simmed. And got results that were similiar. It was slow simming, but I got enough to tell me something is wrong and I flagged it as a bug. Current patch testing has started. Initial tests are on memory mgmt and speed. I am not one who has seen issues with either, but judging by the new build, it is HOLY COW. In the time it took to type this posting, I went from Jan 1st 1976 to June 22nd, 1976. Ah, now I will have to go through a billion more rounds of patch candidates and see what gets cleaned up vs what is in Test Track. Last edited by Raidergoo; 06-17-2006 at 08:57 AM.

07-02-2006, 08:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,583	This was missed in the new TT forum ... is it closed, or still open? __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

07-02-2006, 08:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,375 Thanked 5x in 5 posts	I am having the same problem with no AS game becoming created when I play historical leagues prior to 1933 despite having the option selected in league setup.

07-23-2006, 08:18 AM	#12 (permalink)
Andreas Raht Administrator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hollern/Stade/Germany Posts: 6,468 Thanked 1,088x in 415 posts	I've made changes to the schedule files for seasons w/o ASG (1901-1932 plus 1945). Tested again with the current code. - Loaded a 1977 historical league and simulated three years. Each year had the correct ASG date as defined in the schedule files, and the game have been played. - Loaded a 1903 league and simmed some years. No ASG have been scheduled. In the league options, "Hold ASG" has been checked, but the schedule file overrides this setting. The schedule files now contain the setting allstar_game_day="0". - Attention, if you come to the 1904 season, the schedule file will NOT be used, because the number of games per team is 140 in your league (if a league prior 1904 has been loaded) and the 1904 schedule file has a number of games per team of 154. So you have to stop in pre-season, set the number of games per team to 154 on the league options page, and load the 1904 schedule file. - Loaded historical league starting 1932. No ASG date has been scheduled. Simmed until 1933, and had an ASG on July 6th. - Created fictional league (Two sub-leagues, 3 divisions of 8 teams each, "hold ASG" checked) and it had an ASG scheduled and played. __________________ Andreas Raht andreas@ootpdevelopments.com Out of the Park Developments Out of the Park Baseball Development Team Title Bout Development Team

07-31-2006, 12:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
SSG Troyer All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Somewhere to the left of 2nd base Posts: 1,583	I just started a new season (1996) with build 12262, and no All Star game. __________________ MWT Did Tennesee Delaware Mississppi's New Jersey? Idaho ... Alaska!

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