Extreem pitcher fatigue

bababui · 04-04-2007, 12:19 AM

Relievers tired or exhausted one day after pitching an inning. This is one of many examples...

hrc333 · 04-04-2007, 12:42 PM

I am seeing this too.

I have a reliever right now who has thrown 2 pitches in the last 5 days and is only 40%. His endurance is 55/100.

I have another reliever right now who has thrown 8 pitchers 2 days ago and 15 pitches 3 days ago who is at 44%. His endurance is 46/100.

I am playing in the current year, with the default settings.

bababui · 04-06-2007, 01:04 AM

This needs to be adjusted..not even relievers in the over 70 Geriatric League have this kind of fatigue

Vinny P. · 04-06-2007, 03:22 AM

i also had a started with not even 1 day of rest and made him pitch the very next night (at 5%) he went 7 innings, gave up 2 hits, 3 BB and 1 run.

in 2 nights he only gave up 1 run out of 16 IP. (i was forced to use him, since a bunch of crap heppend to my roster over that week....) and this is in 2007 with all default settings as well.

so i guess im not the only 1 having strange fatigue problems.

Erik W. · 04-06-2007, 03:35 AM

Did you guys change the pitcher endurance setting at all?

bababui · 04-06-2007, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik W.

Did you guys change the pitcher endurance setting at all?

I started with low but had to switch to normal. But I cant see any logic behind the above screenie at any endurance level. Overall, I think starters endurance is the best of and OOTP version I am aware of. I hope Markus gives the relievers a little tweak and things will be perfect.

thomamon · 04-11-2007, 08:43 AM

Are there still any open issues with this?

The Wolf · 04-12-2007, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bababui

This needs to be adjusted..not even relievers in the over 70 Geriatric League have this kind of fatigue

I'm having the same thing happen to my relievers.

Pitcher fatigue needs tweaking.

Oxydizer · 04-12-2007, 10:14 PM

Yeap, same problem here too. My starting pitcher today was at 100%, but after just 1 inning his status was down to 9%. I just let him pitch and he did rather well, if I remember correctly he went almost 7 innings, allowed 3 runs walked 3 or 4 and k'd 4

hrc333 · 04-13-2007, 05:44 PM

This is still an open issue for me. My only complaint with the game at this point is the reliever fatigue issue. I have 6 MR's on my roster and I normally only have one or two that are not tired. (I am using the default setting for 2007.) I repeadly have relievers with high endurance tired when they have only pitched one inning in the last 5 days.

Last year in MLB the leading appearance by a pitcher was 94. The year before it was 85.

In 20 years of simming in my league the most appearances by a pitcher is 78!!! (I assume this is an issue with the pitchers always being tired, even when only pitching an inning.)

Nutlaw · 04-29-2007, 05:30 PM

I have logged this issue as TT 3468.

Nutlaw · 04-30-2007, 06:45 PM

This issue has been claimed fixed for the next patch.

Nutlaw · 05-05-2007, 09:57 PM

Can someone verify that this is working properly with the new beta patch? You all seem to have a better feel for this than me.

Recte44 · 07-16-2007, 11:16 PM

WHat version is this claimed fixed on? On 2.0.2.53 it is still very much broken.

Nutlaw · 07-17-2007, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Recte44

WHat version is this claimed fixed on? On 2.0.2.53 it is still very much broken.

The current one. Can you provide any examples, please?

Sweed · 07-17-2007, 11:14 PM

It's working fine in my current solo league using default present day settings.
The only time I've seen a problem is if you use a pitcher set as a SP in a relief role. In other words if I bring up a starter from AAA and want to use him out of the pen he will tire at an unrealistic rate unless I set his position to relief pitcher. As long as I change his role to RP there is no problem.

So in short there is no problem with starters or relievers as long as I assign them to the role they will be filling on my team. Take him out of the pen and move him back into the rotation, simply change the role back to SP.

FWIW the AI, at least in my solo league, also changes SP it uses out of the pen to RP. I know the AI makes these changes as I've faced many RP on AI teams that have stamina of 15+ on the 1-20 scale. So there is no problem with the AI having the bullpen tiring at an unrealistic rate.

This is with the current patch.

IMHO the fixes Markus put in the last patch has both SP and RP fatigue, in present day settings, right on the money.

04-04-2007, 12:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,073 Thanks: 228 Thanked 146x in 108 posts Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Extreem pitcher fatigue Relievers tired or exhausted one day after pitching an inning. This is one of many examples... Last edited by bababui; 02-25-2008 at 12:04 AM.

04-04-2007, 12:42 PM	#2 (permalink)
hrc333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I am seeing this too. I have a reliever right now who has thrown 2 pitches in the last 5 days and is only 40%. His endurance is 55/100. I have another reliever right now who has thrown 8 pitchers 2 days ago and 15 pitches 3 days ago who is at 44%. His endurance is 46/100. I am playing in the current year, with the default settings. __________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." --Soren Kierkegaard

04-06-2007, 03:35 AM	#5 (permalink)
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Montréal Posts: 4,400 Thanks: 11 Thanked 69x in 42 posts	Did you guys change the pitcher endurance setting at all? __________________ Formerly known as Azamien

04-11-2007, 08:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,184 Thanks: 32 Thanked 48x in 24 posts	Are there still any open issues with this? __________________ Thomas A. Montalto Please check out my Stupid Little Blog - http://www.stupidlittleblog.com

04-13-2007, 05:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
hrc333 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 64 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	This is still an open issue for me. My only complaint with the game at this point is the reliever fatigue issue. I have 6 MR's on my roster and I normally only have one or two that are not tired. (I am using the default setting for 2007.) I repeadly have relievers with high endurance tired when they have only pitched one inning in the last 5 days. Last year in MLB the leading appearance by a pitcher was 94. The year before it was 85. In 20 years of simming in my league the most appearances by a pitcher is 78!!! (I assume this is an issue with the pitchers always being tired, even when only pitching an inning.) __________________ "People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid." --Soren Kierkegaard

04-06-2007, 01:04 AM	#3 (permalink)
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,073 Thanks: 228 Thanked 146x in 108 posts Infractions: 0/1 (1)	This needs to be adjusted..not even relievers in the over 70 Geriatric League have this kind of fatigue

04-06-2007, 03:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
Vinny P. All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,510 Thanks: 289 Thanked 129x in 101 posts	i also had a started with not even 1 day of rest and made him pitch the very next night (at 5%) he went 7 innings, gave up 2 hits, 3 BB and 1 run. in 2 nights he only gave up 1 run out of 16 IP. (i was forced to use him, since a bunch of crap heppend to my roster over that week....) and this is in 2007 with all default settings as well. so i guess im not the only 1 having strange fatigue problems.

04-12-2007, 10:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Oxydizer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: San Francisco, Ca Posts: 585 Thanks: 3 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Yeap, same problem here too. My starting pitcher today was at 100%, but after just 1 inning his status was down to 9%. I just let him pitch and he did rather well, if I remember correctly he went almost 7 innings, allowed 3 runs walked 3 or 4 and k'd 4

04-29-2007, 05:30 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	I have logged this issue as TT 3468. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

04-30-2007, 06:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	This issue has been claimed fixed for the next patch. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

05-05-2007, 09:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,529 Thanks: 79 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Can someone verify that this is working properly with the new beta patch? You all seem to have a better feel for this than me. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

07-16-2007, 11:16 PM	#14 (permalink)
Recte44 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 1,956 Thanks: 40 Thanked 37x in 14 posts	WHat version is this claimed fixed on? On 2.0.2.53 it is still very much broken. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, Monty Brewster World Baseball Association (MBWBA) http://twitter.com/recte44 http://twitter.com/Monty_Brewster http://twitter.com/mbba_hustlers

07-17-2007, 11:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sweed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Iowa Posts: 2,439 Thanks: 320 Thanked 289x in 134 posts	It's working fine in my current solo league using default present day settings. The only time I've seen a problem is if you use a pitcher set as a SP in a relief role. In other words if I bring up a starter from AAA and want to use him out of the pen he will tire at an unrealistic rate unless I set his position to relief pitcher. As long as I change his role to RP there is no problem. So in short there is no problem with starters or relievers as long as I assign them to the role they will be filling on my team. Take him out of the pen and move him back into the rotation, simply change the role back to SP. FWIW the AI, at least in my solo league, also changes SP it uses out of the pen to RP. I know the AI makes these changes as I've faced many RP on AI teams that have stamina of 15+ on the 1-20 scale. So there is no problem with the AI having the bullpen tiring at an unrealistic rate. This is with the current patch. IMHO the fixes Markus put in the last patch has both SP and RP fatigue, in present day settings, right on the money. Last edited by Sweed; 07-17-2007 at 11:17 PM.

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