BZ 1468: Manager History Screen

SlyBelle · 06-19-2008, 11:59 PM

Appears to be a bug within the Manager History screen on the winning percentage. As you can see with this manager, on the detail line it shows .494 but in the summary it show .582. After looking around, the .494 is actually the total winning percentage of the team this year, not just for this specific manager (I fired a manager mid year and replaced with this one). Since this is a specific manager's history screen, it should represent the .582.

Tony M · 06-20-2008, 12:57 PM

That's odd. I've created a fictional league and fired managers left, right and centre and all their stats seem to be correct for the period they were in charge.

PM sent

SlyBelle · 06-20-2008, 10:20 PM

That is interesting....not sure why it happened for me, but the screenshot proves it happened. One other note is that when I fired my manager I replaced him with my bench coach. Not sure if that makes a difference. I've also provided you the information you requested through PM.

Tony M · 06-21-2008, 01:43 AM

Yep. I can verify that in the file coaches.dat the percentage for that coach for that year does not equal W/(W+L) but it does for every other coach in the game.

Can I ask that you follow the instructions in the 'how to FTP files to us' and I'll log this and get Markus to have a look at it.

Tony M · 06-21-2008, 01:46 AM

Bz 1468

SlyBelle · 06-21-2008, 07:42 AM

Files FTP under the filename SlyBelle.zip. Hope it helps.

SlyBelle · 06-21-2008, 11:08 AM

Further feedback. I actually created two new leagues this morning and this issue happens everytime. I basically fast sim (go on vacation) to the allstar game and then fire my manager. I then replace my manager (fast sim to end of regular season) and that is when the issue comes up. I first thought it might have to do with me promoting my bench coach, but that is not the case. It happens also when I hire a manager from the outside. Again, the detail line percentage is definetly the overall teams percentage, while the summary line is my specific manager's percentage.

SlyBelle · 06-21-2008, 11:13 AM

One last thing, it did only appear to be human controlled teams only. I checked out AI swapped managers and their percentages appeared to be correct.

Nutlaw · 07-12-2008, 11:02 AM

This has been marked as something that the developer cannot reproduce.

SlyBelle · 07-13-2008, 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

This has been marked as something that the developer cannot reproduce.

I'll try and see if it happens to me again after I apply the latest patch. Maybe something else fixed it. Defintely, happened all the time in the prior version. I'll let you know.

SlyBelle · 07-13-2008, 10:05 PM

I tried it again with the latest patch and I get the same results. Again, this happens every time I do the following.

1) Start new MLB league
2) Select to manage Pirates
3) Put manager on vacation
4) Sim to all-star game
5) Fire existing manager
6) Hire new manager from available list
7) Sim to end of regular season
8) Open up personel screen and look at his record
9) On the detail line, lists the manager's record, but the winning percentage reflects the entire team for the year, not just the manager's half year. However, the summary line (totals) does reflect his correct winning percentage for his half of the year.

Let me know if I can provide anything else, but does appear to be very repeatable.

Nutlaw · 07-14-2008, 06:55 PM

Hrm. Can you repeat this in a fictional league?

SlyBelle · 07-15-2008, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Hrm. Can you repeat this in a fictional league?

I'll try after I apply the latest patch released tonight...

SlyBelle · 07-15-2008, 01:18 AM

Just tried with fictional league using same steps, same results. I can get it to happen every time.

Nutlaw · 07-15-2008, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlyBelle

Just tried with fictional league using same steps, same results. I can get it to happen every time.

Gotcha. I reopened the report with your steps to reproduce above. Thanks for including them!

SlyBelle · 07-16-2008, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Gotcha. I reopened the report with your steps to reproduce above. Thanks for including them!

If you need a set of test files for me to send, just let me know and I can provide them if you think it would help.

SlyBelle · 07-16-2008, 10:02 PM

I decided to just go ahead an upload so you could see it if you wanted. File name is SlyBelle_ManagerHistory.zip. I have simmed the full season so you just need to go to the Pirates personnel screen and look at the current' manager's history. You'll see the detail line percentage is incorrect and represents the total team's record, not just his. Hope this helps you.

Nutlaw · 09-24-2008, 07:23 PM

This has been marked as something to be addressed at a later time.

06-19-2008, 11:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	BZ 1468: Manager History Screen Appears to be a bug within the Manager History screen on the winning percentage. As you can see with this manager, on the detail line it shows .494 but in the summary it show .582. After looking around, the .494 is actually the total winning percentage of the team this year, not just for this specific manager (I fired a manager mid year and replaced with this one). Since this is a specific manager's history screen, it should represent the .582. Attached Images

06-20-2008, 12:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,078 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 299x in 172 posts	That's odd. I've created a fictional league and fired managers left, right and centre and all their stats seem to be correct for the period they were in charge. PM sent __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

06-21-2008, 01:43 AM	#4 (permalink)
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,078 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 299x in 172 posts	Yep. I can verify that in the file coaches.dat the percentage for that coach for that year does not equal W/(W+L) but it does for every other coach in the game. Can I ask that you follow the instructions in the 'how to FTP files to us' and I'll log this and get Markus to have a look at it. __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

06-21-2008, 01:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,078 Blog Entries: 3 Thanked 299x in 172 posts	Bz 1468 __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

07-12-2008, 11:02 AM	#9 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	This has been marked as something that the developer cannot reproduce. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

06-20-2008, 10:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	That is interesting....not sure why it happened for me, but the screenshot proves it happened. One other note is that when I fired my manager I replaced him with my bench coach. Not sure if that makes a difference. I've also provided you the information you requested through PM.

06-21-2008, 07:42 AM	#6 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Files FTP under the filename SlyBelle.zip. Hope it helps.

06-21-2008, 11:08 AM	#7 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Further feedback. I actually created two new leagues this morning and this issue happens everytime. I basically fast sim (go on vacation) to the allstar game and then fire my manager. I then replace my manager (fast sim to end of regular season) and that is when the issue comes up. I first thought it might have to do with me promoting my bench coach, but that is not the case. It happens also when I hire a manager from the outside. Again, the detail line percentage is definetly the overall teams percentage, while the summary line is my specific manager's percentage.

06-21-2008, 11:13 AM	#8 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	One last thing, it did only appear to be human controlled teams only. I checked out AI swapped managers and their percentages appeared to be correct.

07-13-2008, 10:05 PM	#11 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	I tried it again with the latest patch and I get the same results. Again, this happens every time I do the following. 1) Start new MLB league 2) Select to manage Pirates 3) Put manager on vacation 4) Sim to all-star game 5) Fire existing manager 6) Hire new manager from available list 7) Sim to end of regular season 8) Open up personel screen and look at his record 9) On the detail line, lists the manager's record, but the winning percentage reflects the entire team for the year, not just the manager's half year. However, the summary line (totals) does reflect his correct winning percentage for his half of the year. Let me know if I can provide anything else, but does appear to be very repeatable.

07-14-2008, 06:55 PM	#12 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Hrm. Can you repeat this in a fictional league? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

07-15-2008, 01:18 AM	#14 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Just tried with fictional league using same steps, same results. I can get it to happen every time.

07-16-2008, 10:02 PM	#17 (permalink)
SlyBelle Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 295 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	I decided to just go ahead an upload so you could see it if you wanted. File name is SlyBelle_ManagerHistory.zip. I have simmed the full season so you just need to go to the Pirates personnel screen and look at the current' manager's history. You'll see the detail line percentage is incorrect and represents the total team's record, not just his. Hope this helps you.

09-24-2008, 07:23 PM	#18 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	This has been marked as something to be addressed at a later time. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

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