BZ 1493: Game creating extra logos

English_Ray · 06-20-2008, 06:07 PM

Here's something that I'm seeing that may not be so much a bug as it is a peculiarity... In both of the leagues I have (one imported from v8, and one started new) the game is creating additional, blank logos for teams that don't exist. As far as I can see its not having any effect on the game, but at the same time its a little bit annoying, cluttering up my html/images folder!

I have no idea where the game is getting these teams from - the imported game never suffered from this in v8, and I haven't got any deleted or inactive teams in the new league, so I would think that could be ruled out as the source.

I'd be interested to know if anyone else has seen this, or if there is a known reason for why its happening!

Here's an example of what I'm seeing:

Nutlaw · 06-20-2008, 09:17 PM

Did you ever delete any teams or leagues in this saved game?

English_Ray · 06-21-2008, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Did you ever delete any teams or leagues in this saved game?

In the league that I imported over from v8, there were some teams that had been deleted, but not since I moved it over.

In the one pictured above, the new v9 league, I haven't deleted any teams or leagues at all - that was my first thought at what might have caused it as well, so I'm stumped!

Nutlaw · 06-21-2008, 02:05 PM

There are probably some deleted teams floating around your database that didn't entirely get deleted in the earlier version of the game. It's an old bug that has been fixed since, but the teams are still in your files.

Do you see this sort of behavior in any non-converted leagues?

English_Ray · 06-21-2008, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

There are probably some deleted teams floating around your database that didn't entirely get deleted in the earlier version of the game. It's an old bug that has been fixed since, but the teams are still in your files.

Do you see this sort of behavior in any non-converted leagues?

Yeah, see my answer above. That's whats confused me. If I had only seen it in the converted version, in a save that I knew I had deleted teams in, then I wouldn't even have mentioned it. The weird thing is that its happened in a brand new, v9 league, that I haven't deleted any teams at all from, let alone the 45(!) that I now have these blank logos for. I mean, I only have 30 teams in the whole universe!!

Nutlaw · 06-21-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by English_Ray

Yeah, see my answer above. That's whats confused me. If I had only seen it in the converted version, in a save that I knew I had deleted teams in, then I wouldn't even have mentioned it. The weird thing is that its happened in a brand new, v9 league, that I haven't deleted any teams at all from, let alone the 45(!) that I now have these blank logos for. I mean, I only have 30 teams in the whole universe!!

Sorry. Missed that.

Hrm. During game setup, did you temporarily set the league to have more teams than it currently does?

When you view Game -> Database Info, what is the "Number of Teams" displayed as?

Could you try creating a new fictional league, not changing any settings in the league, starting the game, then see if you have extra logos created?

English_Ray · 06-21-2008, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Sorry. Missed that.

Hrm. During game setup, did you temporarily set the league to have more teams than it currently does?

When you view Game -> Database Info, what is the "Number of Teams" displayed as?

Could you try creating a new fictional league, not changing any settings in the league, starting the game, then see if you have extra logos created?

Ok, I think I see the problem. The database has the right number of teams (backed up by checking the csv data export). I just tried two new leagues. First one, I left EXACTLY as the default for adding a custom league - 2 subleagues, 2 divisions, 16 teams total. No problems of phantom logos there.

Second one, I changed it from the default to be only one subleague, still with 2 divisions, 8 teams total. This time, when I reloaded the game after exiting, it created phantom logos (8 of them). I checked, and it still shows the right number of teams in the database info. I guess it must be creating logos for the teams that the default custom league would have had. Not a massive problem I guess, but I would imagine its not ideal that the game is somehow 'remembering' teams from before the save was technically created!

Simmo13 · 06-21-2008, 05:15 PM

My league is new,2009 with ML and 3 levels of minors. I've not altered the structure at all but am getting dozens of these blank black logos. have swept them all to the bin but new ones appear next time I open the game like a plague of insects!!

jetking · 06-21-2008, 05:52 PM

I am seeing this, too. A new OOTP 9 league, changed structure to 2 subleagues with 1 div each, 6 teams in each subleague.

I've got roughly 40 blank logos. I'm pretty sure I hit the "randomize" a couple of times before I settled on my teams & mascots.

As with others, these are regenerated at launch even if I deleted them.

I'm on a Mac (OS X 10.3.11, 1 GB RAM, 1.67 GHz G4 PowerBook).

Obviously this isn't the biggest bug. But it does make my images folder messy. Waaaaah!

Nutlaw · 06-22-2008, 02:04 PM

I have logged this as BZ 1493.

Nutlaw · 07-09-2008, 07:43 PM

This has been marked as something that will not be fixed. My apologies.

rocketeer928 · 08-03-2008, 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

This has been marked as something that will not be fixed. My apologies.

That stinks! I'm having the same problem. I get 170 logos for teams I don't use; some are the black blanks and others have the usual color with the ghost team's abbreviations.

I'm in the habit of deleting unnecessary files, such as message.dat, messages, game logs, etc., before backing up my saved game on an external hard drive. Now I must take the extra step of eliminating these additionally created logos before backing up. Not a big deal, but it is a pain.

ashantewarrier · 08-04-2008, 12:23 AM

This has been marked as fixed in the latest patch but the problem/bug still exists.

This bug occurs also with leagues created within version 9.

Nutlaw · 08-04-2008, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

This has been marked as fixed in the latest patch but the problem/bug still exists.

This bug occurs also with leagues created within version 9.

Sorry, that shouldn't have been in the list. As I reported earlier, this is something that won't be addressed.

06-20-2008, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
English_Ray All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Not in Basingstoke anymore... Posts: 638 Thanked 29x in 23 posts	BZ 1493: Game creating extra logos Here's something that I'm seeing that may not be so much a bug as it is a peculiarity... In both of the leagues I have (one imported from v8, and one started new) the game is creating additional, blank logos for teams that don't exist. As far as I can see its not having any effect on the game, but at the same time its a little bit annoying, cluttering up my html/images folder! I have no idea where the game is getting these teams from - the imported game never suffered from this in v8, and I haven't got any deleted or inactive teams in the new league, so I would think that could be ruled out as the source. I'd be interested to know if anyone else has seen this, or if there is a known reason for why its happening! Here's an example of what I'm seeing:

06-20-2008, 09:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	Did you ever delete any teams or leagues in this saved game? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

06-21-2008, 02:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	There are probably some deleted teams floating around your database that didn't entirely get deleted in the earlier version of the game. It's an old bug that has been fixed since, but the teams are still in your files. Do you see this sort of behavior in any non-converted leagues? __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

06-21-2008, 05:52 PM	#9 (permalink)
jetking Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 133 Thanked 2x in 1 post	I am seeing this, too. A new OOTP 9 league, changed structure to 2 subleagues with 1 div each, 6 teams in each subleague. I've got roughly 40 blank logos. I'm pretty sure I hit the "randomize" a couple of times before I settled on my teams & mascots. As with others, these are regenerated at launch even if I deleted them. I'm on a Mac (OS X 10.3.11, 1 GB RAM, 1.67 GHz G4 PowerBook). Obviously this isn't the biggest bug. But it does make my images folder messy. Waaaaah! __________________ My solo leagues: SixFourThree.org

06-22-2008, 02:04 PM	#10 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	I have logged this as BZ 1493. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

06-21-2008, 05:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
Simmo13 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: those blue remembered hills Posts: 646 Thanked 42x in 33 posts	My league is new,2009 with ML and 3 levels of minors. I've not altered the structure at all but am getting dozens of these blank black logos. have swept them all to the bin but new ones appear next time I open the game like a plague of insects!!

07-09-2008, 07:43 PM	#11 (permalink)
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,526 Thanked 102x in 62 posts	This has been marked as something that will not be fixed. My apologies. __________________ BJHL: GM of the Manhattan Crime Occasional Contributor to The Cardinal Nation

08-04-2008, 12:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
ashantewarrier All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 1,463 Thanked 152x in 96 posts	This has been marked as fixed in the latest patch but the problem/bug still exists. This bug occurs also with leagues created within version 9. __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson OOTP MLB & NCAA Caps & Jerseys http://s1232.photobucket.com/profile/ashantewarrier

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