BZ 1873: Substitutions - this must be a bug

[SteveP]

I've only been playing OOTP for a few weeks but I've seen this happen at least a half dozen times. Is it a known bug that can't be fixed?

The problem occurs when there have been two substitutions while a team is at bat (e.g., two PHs). The AI then proceeds to goof up the fielding substitutions in the following half-inning. Example that just happened:

Backup C PHs for my SS. Then backup OF PHs for my CF. I have a backup SS and a backup CF (according to my depth chart) on the bench, so it should not be a problem. However, what the AI does is to sub both the backup SS and the backup CF into the same lineup slot, one right after the other. As a result, my backup SS ends up right back on the bench and ineligible for play in that game, while the pinch hitting OF ends up playing SS.

It's this pattern of putting two subs into the same lineup slot, one immediately after the other, that i see happening quite often, when it should not happen at all.

[Nutlaw]

When a player pinch hits for another player, he immediately takes his spot in the lineup. Do you mean that the AI attempts to play both pinch hitters in the same position in the field, one after the other?

Which version of the game are you using, please?

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

When a player pinch hits for another player, he immediately takes his spot in the lineup. Do you mean that the AI attempts to play both pinch hitters in the same position in the field, one after the other?

Not exactly. What it is doing is substituting two backup position players, one right after the other, for the same PH in the same lineup slot, when the two backup position players should have been substituted for two PHs in two different lineup slots. I hope that's clear.

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

Which version of the game are you using, please?

I started playing version 9.1.2 and now am playing 9.1.6 (on the Mac, if that matters). It's happened with both versions. Most of the time the AI does the substitutions correctly, even the complicated ones, but about 6-7 times it's done this weird substitution.

[Nutlaw]

I think I get it. I wrote up BZ 1873 as: "The AI will sometimes use two pinch hitters in an inning, then bring in a defensive sub for one pinch hitter, immediately replace the defensive sub with another defensive sub for the other open position, then play the second pinch hitter out of position in the field."

Let me know if that isn't right.

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

I think I get it. I wrote up BZ 1873 as: "The AI will sometimes use two pinch hitters in an inning, then bring in a defensive sub for one pinch hitter, immediately replace the defensive sub with another defensive sub for the other open position, then play the second pinch hitter out of position in the field."

Let me know if that isn't right.

You have it exactly right.

[Nutlaw]

This was marked as something to be addressed later.