Heads up : Flags in OOTPB2006

Marc Duffy · 05-08-2006, 09:42 AM

You've hopefully seen the new OOTPB2006 screenshots and you'll notice the game is using flags.

The proposed format for game flags will be 18 x 12 and in PNG format

If you have any other questions relating to flags, I'm here to help!

danjel · 05-08-2006, 09:50 AM

Is the bevelling (or shading?) added by the game, or is that part of the images that you're using?

Marc Duffy · 05-08-2006, 10:02 AM

That I believe is part of the image

reds1 · 05-08-2006, 10:07 AM

Which screenshot(s) are we talking about? I can't see a 'flag' image on any of them.

cephasjames · 05-08-2006, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by reds1

Which screenshot(s) are we talking about? I can't see a 'flag' image on any of them.

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Marc Duffy · 05-08-2006, 10:11 AM

http://www.ootpbaseball2006.com/scre...w=screen&id=85

Uses an American flag

danjel · 05-08-2006, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

That I believe is part of the image

Excellent. Thanks.

cephasjames · 05-08-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

http://www.ootpbaseball2006.com/scre...w=screen&id=85

Uses an American flag

Gotcha! So for all those people that want to have "really" fictional worlds. Or be on Mars, with its many countries and cities...

Thanks for the heads up, Marc.

reds1 · 05-08-2006, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

http://www.ootpbaseball2006.com/scre...w=screen&id=85

Uses an American flag

Thanks Marc. So the fact that the US flag shows up in the screenshot mean that some flag images will be provided with the game - and as CJ suggested, we can add customized flags for fictional baseball universes?

Raidergoo · 05-08-2006, 11:09 AM

Can I request a Confederate flag and a Soviet Union flag for the Beta Test?

Psst. It's a secret!

ashantewarrier · 05-08-2006, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Can I request a Confederate flag and a Soviet Union flag for the Beta Test?

Not funny.....especiallly the confederate flag part!

toddgregory · 05-08-2006, 09:04 PM

I can't get over how much I dislike the logos on the screenshots. The circle look that is lopped off on the edges by the square? I don't like it...

reds1 · 05-08-2006, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by toddgregory

I can't get over how much I dislike the logos on the screenshots. The circle look that is lopped off on the edges by the square? I don't like it...

I think that's where the player photos are inserted, IIRC.

Raidergoo · 05-08-2006, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

Not funny.....especiallly the confederate flag part!

I rejoice every time I read about Sherman and the Army of the Ohio burning Atlanta. Smells like, victory.

That said, it is a distinct possibility that someone can decide to do a fictional sim in Harry Turtledove's fictional universe, or try to have a more accurate 1978 simulation with the Soviet Union intact, versus being splintered into its constituant republics.

I won't judge you and you won't judge me, hmm, OK?

ashantewarrier · 05-08-2006, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

I rejoice every time I read about Sherman and the Army of the Ohio burning Atlanta. Smells like, victory.

That said, it is a distinct possibility that someone can decide to do a fictional sim in Harry Turtledove's fictional universe, or try to have a more accurate 1978 simulation with the Soviet Union intact, versus being splintered into its constituant republics.

I won't judge you and you won't judge me, hmm, OK?

Still, not funny......!

kingcharlesxii · 05-09-2006, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by reds1

Thanks Marc. So the fact that the US flag shows up in the screenshot mean that some flag images will be provided with the game - and as CJ suggested, we can add customized flags for fictional baseball universes?

Yep, it seems pretty cool.

reds1 · 05-09-2006, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kingcharlesxii

Yep, it seems pretty cool.

The only problem with such a small size (18x12), is that a pixel based program like photoshop is pretty limited in creating quality images at such a small scale.

Unless anyone knows where exsiting vector based flag images are available, it would seem that only those with CorelDraw or some other vector based program would be needed to create these images.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Raidergoo · 05-09-2006, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by reds1

The only problem with such a small size (18x12), is that a pixel based program like photoshop is pretty limited in creating quality images at such a small scale.

Unless anyone knows where exsiting vector based flag images are available, it would seem that only those with CorelDraw or some other vector based program would be needed to create these images.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

What file format would a vector based image use?

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

CIA has a lot of flags as a reference. They seem to be GIF's.

kingcharlesxii · 05-09-2006, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by reds1

The only problem with such a small size (18x12), is that a pixel based program like photoshop is pretty limited in creating quality images at such a small scale.

Unless anyone knows where exsiting vector based flag images are available, it would seem that only those with CorelDraw or some other vector based program would be needed to create these images.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Yeah, that's a concern. I was planning to create some myself and test it out a bit, see what works and what doesn't. I don't have the talent to make high-quality logos like most of the folks here but I love to make flags.

reds1 · 05-09-2006, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

What file format would a vector based image use?

http://www.odci.gov/cia/publications/factbook/

CIA has a lot of flags as a reference. They seem to be GIF's.

It's not the file format that's the issue, but the way the program interprets the image you're working on.
Photoshop generates an image in little units called pixels; the larger the image you're working with, the more pixels it can contain and therefore the more clarity, sharpness and definition it can support. But as the image gets smaller, it reduces the total number of pixels and therefore the amount of information that it can retain - resulting in jagged, indistinct blobs of colour.
Vector based programs like CorelDraw create images as a mathematical expression, making file size irrelavent. A tiny image can contain as much detail and sharpness as a large image.
File format only comes into play when you have completed working on an image and do a "save as" at the end.

Thus it appears that vector based programs are the avenue of choice for generating the needed flags for our baseball universes.
In the OOTP community, I believe that Cuss, La Grande Orange, Dbacks and StorminZ currently use vector based programs.

Once again, please correct me if I'm off base on any of my explanations.

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Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,737 Thanked 6x in 2 posts	Heads up : Flags in OOTPB2006 You've hopefully seen the new OOTPB2006 screenshots and you'll notice the game is using flags. The proposed format for game flags will be 18 x 12 and in PNG format If you have any other questions relating to flags, I'm here to help!

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05-08-2006, 09:50 AM	#2 (permalink)
danjel Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 119	Is the bevelling (or shading?) added by the game, or is that part of the images that you're using?

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Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,737 Thanked 6x in 2 posts	That I believe is part of the image

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reds1 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 2,518 Thanked 53x in 38 posts	Which screenshot(s) are we talking about? I can't see a 'flag' image on any of them.

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Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,737 Thanked 6x in 2 posts	http://www.ootpbaseball2006.com/scre...w=screen&id=85 Uses an American flag

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Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 39.84 N -84.12 W Posts: 8,327 Thanked 53x in 36 posts	Can I request a Confederate flag and a Soviet Union flag for the Beta Test? Psst. It's a secret!

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toddgregory Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 273 Thanked 5x in 4 posts	I can't get over how much I dislike the logos on the screenshots. The circle look that is lopped off on the edges by the square? I don't like it...