Event Generator

ctorg · 04-08-2003, 12:10 PM

As mentioned in another thread, someone created an event generator for High Heat.

I'm not a programmer, but I'm pretty proficient with Excel, and a while back I made an event generator for OOTP.

I couldn't find my full version of it, but here is an incomplete version. Here's how it works:

There are two sheets. One is called Events and one is called Results.

The Events sheet consists of two columns: Column A is numbered from 2 to 1001, and column B is a list of events that might happen during the offseason or during the season. The closer an event is to the middle, the more likely it is to happen. In fact, the event listed as 2 only has something like a .0004% chance of happening (I put "Whole 25-man roster dies in plane crash there. Yikes!).

The Results sheet consists of three columns. The first is a code for choosing an event from the event list. This is randomly generated. The second is a player number. Most of the events affect a specific player, and this would be the number of the player. I've allowed it to choose a number from 1-3000.

If you hit F9 (re-calculate), the random numbers on the Results sheet will be regenerated. You can copy the rows to make more events if you wish, or use less. Whatever you want. You can run it between seasons or several times during the season, depending on how often you want events to occur.

There is almost nothing listed in the Events sheet. This was an early version, and I can't find the last one I did. I think it's on my old (discarded) computer. Anyway, if anyone has any ideas for events, post them and I can add them. You can anything you want to your own copy.

Obviously, it's just an Excel file, so it doesn't alter the player file and make changes or anything, but you can use it as a guide to make changes to players yourself if you'd like.

Anyway, let me know what you think...

Steve Kuffrey · 04-08-2003, 02:40 PM

Nice, I d/l it and will probably give it a shot in one of my solo careers.

Le Grande Orange · 04-08-2003, 02:51 PM

Here's an event I posted about a couple of pages back: war time military service.

I worked up the actual percentage chances of a player leaving for WWII military service, and for how long, based on the actual effects the war had on MLB rosters. That would definitely add some interesting twists to roster management.

By the way, the event you listed where an entire ball team is killed in an airline crash actually has been considered by MLB. When air travel became more widely used, MLB was forced to create a contingency plan in case of such a disaster. I forget the actual details of the plan, but it was first tabled by the leagues on January 29, 1957.

ctorg · 04-08-2003, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Le Grande Orange
By the way, the event you listed where an entire ball team is killed in an airline crash actually has been considered by MLB. When air travel became more widely used, MLB was forced to create a contingency plan in case of such a disaster. I forget the actual details of the plan, but it was first tabled by the leagues on January 29, 1957.

Wow, I didn't even realize that. I got the idea from the movie Beetlejuice. Of course, that's a football team that died, but same idea.

endgame · 04-08-2003, 07:31 PM

If one were to use an "event generator" for a solo league, how would the effect be translated into the game? What specific files would need edited and how? Would most of these events only necessitate house rule sorts of implementation, i.e. Player XYZ misses the next 14 games because of.... (where and how would you enter that in some text history?)

I'm sure you get my drift. What would we do once an event does occur and how do we do it?

Thanks in advance.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-08-2003, 07:37 PM

I think that the "in game" editor will work for most, that and maybe placing a guy on the dl or something.

Dargone · 04-08-2003, 08:12 PM

Good stuff

NYJuggalo45 · 04-08-2003, 09:41 PM

love the program, but can't be used in manager mode leagues for obvious reasons

Teflon Skies · 04-08-2003, 10:38 PM

I don't know if this falls into the "Life Imitating Art" category - but this events table is so "Coover-ish" as to send chills up my spine. I'm sure Henry will know what I'm talking about. (Especially if one Damon Rutherford should meet with an unfortunate demise.)

Avalon Hill's Statis Pro baseball (a really good board-based game from the 70s and 80s) had an unlikely events chart as part of the game, too. It covered everything from triple plays to ejections to rain outs and fights.

ctorg · 04-09-2003, 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NYJuggalo45
love the program, but can't be used in manager mode leagues for obvious reasons

Sure you could, you just have to download that nifty third party program that turns it on and off.

Quote:

Originally posted by endgame
What would we do once an event does occur and how do we do it?

As Steve said, you would have to go in and manually put a player on the DL, change his ratings, or whatever is called for. You could even have a guy get drafted during wartime and make him miss more than one year, but you'd have to keep track of things like that to do it how it should be done.

Exactly what is in the "event" portion is entirely customizable. I've put very little in there.

If anyone has any ideas for good events, post them here. I could update the spreadsheet if there is interest.

Just for reference, an event listed at entry 2 will have a 1 in 250,000 chance of showing up on any given line in the results. An event listed at entry 500 (the most common) will have a 1 in 500 chance of showing up.

LedgerSko · 04-09-2003, 12:53 PM

Cool. Ill have to take a look at it later.

PLG · 04-09-2003, 12:54 PM

Something like that?

http://www.adventureran.com/mods/Offseason.zip

Just did that very fast.

adventureran · 04-09-2003, 01:08 PM

Thanks, Pierre. My leagues just got a new "twist". HAHAHA (evil laugh).

Steve Kuffrey · 04-09-2003, 01:10 PM

That's awesome..

PLG · 04-09-2003, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by adventureran
Thanks, Pierre. My leagues just got a new "twist". HAHAHA (evil laugh).

It is a real alpha version.
The version is -99.-01.-24

If peoples want it, I could add free agent and coach later and affect directly the OOTP files for players in team only.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-09-2003, 01:15 PM

OOOOOO, now that would be sweet.

Kurtis R. · 04-09-2003, 01:24 PM

Very nice Pierre!!

Kurtis

ctorg · 04-09-2003, 01:26 PM

Wow! That's so cool!

adventureran · 04-09-2003, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PLG
It is a real alpha version.
I will tell you the version is -99.-01.-24

If peoples want it, I could add free agent and coach later and affect directly the OOTP files for players in team only.

Oh, that would be great, Pierre!

LedgerSko · 04-09-2003, 02:30 PM

Yeah yeah good idea

04-08-2003, 02:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
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Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scheduleslovakia Posts: 10,231 Thanks: 4 Thanked 1,177x in 700 posts	Here's an event I posted about a couple of pages back: war time military service. I worked up the actual percentage chances of a player leaving for WWII military service, and for how long, based on the actual effects the war had on MLB rosters. That would definitely add some interesting twists to roster management. By the way, the event you listed where an entire ball team is killed in an airline crash actually has been considered by MLB. When air travel became more widely used, MLB was forced to create a contingency plan in case of such a disaster. I forget the actual details of the plan, but it was first tabled by the leagues on January 29, 1957. __________________ . "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our abilities and skills, because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win." .

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Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 16,933 Thanks: 14 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	I think that the "in game" editor will work for most, that and maybe placing a guy on the dl or something. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays No longer an active league.

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endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,771 Thanks: 893 Thanked 756x in 429 posts	If one were to use an "event generator" for a solo league, how would the effect be translated into the game? What specific files would need edited and how? Would most of these events only necessitate house rule sorts of implementation, i.e. Player XYZ misses the next 14 games because of.... (where and how would you enter that in some text history?) I'm sure you get my drift. What would we do once an event does occur and how do we do it? Thanks in advance.

04-08-2003, 10:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Teflon Skies Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 122 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I don't know if this falls into the "Life Imitating Art" category - but this events table is so "Coover-ish" as to send chills up my spine. I'm sure Henry will know what I'm talking about. (Especially if one Damon Rutherford should meet with an unfortunate demise.) Avalon Hill's Statis Pro baseball (a really good board-based game from the 70s and 80s) had an unlikely events chart as part of the game, too. It covered everything from triple plays to ejections to rain outs and fights.

04-09-2003, 12:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
LedgerSko All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,085 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Cool. Ill have to take a look at it later.

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PLG All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montréal, Canada Posts: 639 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Something like that? http://www.adventureran.com/mods/Offseason.zip Just did that very fast. __________________ Pierre pierrepage30@hotmail.com If it's tourist season, why can't we shoot them?

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adventureran Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 447 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Thanks, Pierre. My leagues just got a new "twist". HAHAHA (evil laugh).

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Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 16,933 Thanks: 14 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	OOOOOO, now that would be sweet. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays No longer an active league.

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