The *Other* Ultimate Historical Facepack

Jeff Olsen · 06-04-2004, 05:54 PM

Like Tiger Fan, I've also been doing my best to find photos for everyone who ever played in the majors. I am currently working on 3180 photos spanning 100 years of Major League Baseball. I had already edited these pix for Baseball Mogul and have about 700 to go before this set is completely re-edited for OOTP.

These pix include every player ever selected for the All-Star Game, all Hall of Famers who played in 1900 or later, practically everyone that ever played for the Astros, and most everyone from the 1916, 1987, and 1998 seasons (These went along with Mogul roster sets). Once finished, I'll start editing for both Mogul and OOTP at the same time. The next set will consist mainly of guys from the 50s and 60s.

BTW: I don't know about Tiger Fan but my sets are designed so fans won't need the entire set of pix. This will help those with limited HD space until Markus can implement JPG support.

JoeRockEHF · 06-04-2004, 06:03 PM

Sounds good. Let me know when you're done and I can host them for you if you want.

Jeff Olsen · 06-05-2004, 12:32 AM

Great, always good to have things available on sites other than SimCentral what with Gwynar's recent server problems. I don't know how much more I can fit on my site.

Jeff Olsen · 06-05-2004, 12:37 AM

I should mention that these OOTP pix will be almost entirely faces only. I do have action shots for many of the same 3180 players but I'll leave those for someone else as long as I get credit for the original Mogul versions.

Bill II · 06-07-2004, 08:29 PM

You wouldn't happen to have a picture of Jake Stenzel (He was a major leaguer in the 1890's, mostly with the Pirates & NL Orioles. He had a .339 Career batting avg over nine seasons.

During my fruitless search on the net for a picture of him, I came across this Item, from a baseball memorabillia auction.

"Some little items brought big prices. A circa 1904 celluloid button picturing Peaches O'Neil, who played for Cincinnati in 1904, with the words "Stenzel's Rooter Button" on the front, and on the paper backing "Compliments of Jake Stenzel's B.B. Exchange" (located opposite the ball park in Cincinnati), sold for $1430 (est. $125/150)."

So besides being a good player, he printed & sold baseball memorabillia after he retired. He probably would have gotten a kick out of finding out that one of his free promotional items would sell for $1,430 dollars a hundred years later.

TC Dale · 06-07-2004, 09:05 PM

This is good news for all fans of historical facepacks. I remember Jeff's work on BM and his retooling the packs for here are a good and welcome addition!

I am a huge fan of both Tiger Fan and Jeff Olsen's work , and now there are more things to enjoy for the game. This made my day.

Thanks!

Jeff Olsen · 06-08-2004, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bill II
You wouldn't happen to have a picture of Jake Stenzel (He was a major leaguer in the 1890's, mostly with the Pirates & NL Orioles. He had a .339 Career batting avg over nine seasons.

Sorry, all my pix are for players who saw action after 1900. Stenzel's last season was 1899.

Jeff Olsen · 06-08-2004, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TC Dale
Thanks!

You're welcome.

As I said in Tiger Fan's thread, it's good to give the fans a choice. I'm sure he has better pictures of some players than I do and vice-versa.

Tiger Fan · 06-09-2004, 12:33 AM

I am glad to hear Jeff is working on this and I have offered him use of any of my photos as I have decided to take a back seat on the facepacks for a while. Instead I am going to spend most of my time on something different - actually playing the game.

Good luck Jeff. Look forward to seeing your set.

Jeff Olsen · 06-10-2004, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Tiger Fan
I have offered him use of any of my photos

I just might take you up on that. I have a few that I have action shots for but have not been able to find any sort of posed shot.

Jeff Olsen · 07-29-2004, 12:30 AM

Just a note that I have about 300 more to go.

Carlton · 07-29-2004, 01:59 AM

Jeff if you want PM me with a list of players you do not have...

I have been plugging in Tiger Fan's facepacks ever since he came out with his year by year...I have some rare guys, even if they are old cards...

as for Jake Stenzel he is about as hard to find as George Barclay who played for 6 years in the 1900s!!! that's rare
and Reb Russell

darkhorse · 07-29-2004, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlton

as for Jake Stenzel he is about as hard to find as George Barclay who played for 6 years in the 1900s!!!

As for a pic of Stenzel, he's in this photo, but the players, unfortunately, are left unnamed.

darkhorse · 07-29-2004, 02:43 AM

Well, sonny gun, the Spalding Guide for 1895 did have all the team photos labeled, but the key was at the back of the book.

Stenzel is in the middle row, second from the end, to the right.

Here is his pic, 90 X 135, OOTP style.

darkhorse · 07-29-2004, 10:51 AM

Reb Russell from the White Sox team photo in the 1917 Spalding Guide.

Eugene Church · 07-29-2004, 01:14 PM

You guys simply amaze me.

How in the world do you come up with all of these pictures?

I am glad you do, because you all add a wonderful element to the game.

Hats off to Jeff Olsen, TigerFan, TC Dale, darkhouse and all the others that contribute so much to the OOTPB Community.

Jeff Olsen · 07-29-2004, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlton

Jeff if you want PM me with a list of players you do not have...

I'm not really concerned with missing pictures yet. So far, I've been concentrating on All Stars and Hall of Famers. I have pictures for everyone in both groups but there are a few for which I could use better pics. I'll be making a list of them later.

darkhorse · 07-29-2004, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

How in the world do you come up with all of these pictures?

Mainly, it's just a lot of legwork, searching online. Splashing cash for books is another source, but I've yet to go that route. Someone put out a series of books that had photos of every player from a particular decade. Those would be a lifesaver.

www.sabr.org has an ongoing project to collect a photo of every player in MLB history. So far, they've found over 16,000 of the 17,000+ players to appear in a big league uni. I'd love to get my greedy paws on that database of images.

Jeff Olsen · 08-17-2004, 11:49 PM

Down to about 130 now; just starting those whose first name begins with U, V, W, X, Y or Z.

TC Dale · 08-18-2004, 12:23 AM

Thanks for the update Jeff. Really coming along fast now!

06-04-2004, 05:54 PM	#1 (permalink)
Jeff Olsen Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia, USA Posts: 402	*The Other* Ultimate Historical Facepack** Like Tiger Fan, I've also been doing my best to find photos for everyone who ever played in the majors. I am currently working on 3180 photos spanning 100 years of Major League Baseball. I had already edited these pix for Baseball Mogul and have about 700 to go before this set is completely re-edited for OOTP. These pix include every player ever selected for the All-Star Game, all Hall of Famers who played in 1900 or later, practically everyone that ever played for the Astros, and most everyone from the 1916, 1987, and 1998 seasons (These went along with Mogul roster sets). Once finished, I'll start editing for both Mogul and OOTP at the same time. The next set will consist mainly of guys from the 50s and 60s. BTW: I don't know about Tiger Fan but my sets are designed so fans won't need the entire set of pix. This will help those with limited HD space until Markus can implement JPG support.

06-04-2004, 06:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
JoeRockEHF All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 933	Sounds good. Let me know when you're done and I can host them for you if you want. __________________ PSN: JoeRockEHF

06-05-2004, 12:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Jeff Olsen Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia, USA Posts: 402	I should mention that these OOTP pix will be almost entirely faces only. I do have action shots for many of the same 3180 players but I'll leave those for someone else as long as I get credit for the original Mogul versions. Last edited by Jeff Olsen; 06-05-2004 at 12:41 AM.

06-07-2004, 08:29 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bill II Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 457 Thanked 82x in 47 posts	You wouldn't happen to have a picture of Jake Stenzel (He was a major leaguer in the 1890's, mostly with the Pirates & NL Orioles. He had a .339 Career batting avg over nine seasons. During my fruitless search on the net for a picture of him, I came across this Item, from a baseball memorabillia auction. "Some little items brought big prices. A circa 1904 celluloid button picturing Peaches O'Neil, who played for Cincinnati in 1904, with the words "Stenzel's Rooter Button" on the front, and on the paper backing "Compliments of Jake Stenzel's B.B. Exchange" (located opposite the ball park in Cincinnati), sold for $1430 (est. $125/150)." So besides being a good player, he printed & sold baseball memorabillia after he retired. He probably would have gotten a kick out of finding out that one of his free promotional items would sell for $1,430 dollars a hundred years later. __________________ Bleeding Pirate Black since 1968! Visit the Great Gload's page. http://www.baseball-reference.com/g/gloadro01.shtml

06-07-2004, 09:05 PM	#6 (permalink)
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,920 Thanked 18x in 8 posts	This is good news for all fans of historical facepacks. I remember Jeff's work on BM and his retooling the packs for here are a good and welcome addition! I am a huge fan of both Tiger Fan and Jeff Olsen's work , and now there are more things to enjoy for the game. This made my day. Thanks! __________________ TC ---------------------------------- You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus- Mark Twain.

06-05-2004, 12:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
Jeff Olsen Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia, USA Posts: 402	Great, always good to have things available on sites other than SimCentral what with Gwynar's recent server problems. I don't know how much more I can fit on my site.

06-09-2004, 12:33 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 5,443 Thanked 3x in 2 posts	I am glad to hear Jeff is working on this and I have offered him use of any of my photos as I have decided to take a back seat on the facepacks for a while. Instead I am going to spend most of my time on something different - actually playing the game. Good luck Jeff. Look forward to seeing your set. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles My current dynasty - Fictional Breda Baseball League

07-29-2004, 12:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Jeff Olsen Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia, USA Posts: 402	Just a note that I have about 300 more to go.

07-29-2004, 01:59 AM	#12 (permalink)
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Troy, NY Posts: 2,717 Thanked 14x in 12 posts	Jeff if you want PM me with a list of players you do not have... I have been plugging in Tiger Fan's facepacks ever since he came out with his year by year...I have some rare guys, even if they are old cards... as for Jake Stenzel he is about as hard to find as George Barclay who played for 6 years in the 1900s!!! that's rare and Reb Russell

07-29-2004, 02:43 AM	#14 (permalink)
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,667 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Well, sonny gun, the Spalding Guide for 1895 did have all the team photos labeled, but the key was at the back of the book. Stenzel is in the middle row, second from the end, to the right. Here is his pic, 90 X 135, OOTP style. Attached Images __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

07-29-2004, 10:51 AM	#15 (permalink)
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,667 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Reb Russell from the White Sox team photo in the 1917 Spalding Guide. Attached Images __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

07-29-2004, 01:14 PM	#16 (permalink)
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,947 Thanked 96x in 50 posts	You guys simply amaze me. How in the world do you come up with all of these pictures? I am glad you do, because you all add a wonderful element to the game. Hats off to Jeff Olsen, TigerFan, TC Dale, darkhouse and all the others that contribute so much to the OOTPB Community.

08-17-2004, 11:49 PM	#19 (permalink)
Jeff Olsen Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Northern Virginia, USA Posts: 402	Down to about 130 now; just starting those whose first name begins with U, V, W, X, Y or Z.

08-18-2004, 12:23 AM	#20 (permalink)
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,920 Thanked 18x in 8 posts	Thanks for the update Jeff. Really coming along fast now! __________________ TC ---------------------------------- You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus- Mark Twain.

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