CatoBase 6.1.3 Update - Page 2

gbmoore121 · 07-24-2004, 02:22 PM

Hey Cato, couldn't you get championships won from the player histories. Not sure if it would be possible to use them or not. I think people would have to be able to manually enter their "Championship" name, though.

Shorty · 07-25-2004, 02:14 AM

gb, or just take whoever had postseason stats that year from the champion team.

ANOTHER THING: Designated Hitter Positional Chart! Maybe a checkbox under the Options to indicate which leagues (if any) have the DH? Pleeease! I hate having an awesome player not show up because he's a DH.

jcato · 07-25-2004, 10:25 AM

gbmoore121, I think you're right. That's what I'm going to look into. Shorty, the postseason stat approach would leave out players on the 25-man who didn't play. That wouldn't be right.

And, you're right, the DH should be included.

d_elliott · 07-25-2004, 01:22 PM

Jeff,

Would you consider saving your results in an XML database rather than an Access database. This would let people use XSL to query and format html pages.

Dan

jmm8356 · 07-26-2004, 03:27 PM

From the readme:

"Divisions must have names, even if there is only one division in each league."

A few questions for jcato:

1) What kind of bad things happen if you do not name your divisions?

2) What kind of bad things, if any, would happen if you do not name your leagues?

3) Do you have any suggestions for those running a 2 league, 1 division per league setup? (which is really a one league, two division setup w/ playoffs)

I just would rather not see that a team won the "Western Division Western Division" or "Wst Western" crown.

(Incidentially, why are league abbreviations limited to three characters in OOTP? It's bad enough to have separate divisional record books and leader boards, but "He's leading the Est [or Wst] in HRs with 12!"? Ridiculous.)

jcato · 07-26-2004, 10:14 PM

d_elliott,

Probably not. I don't know much about XML, and don't have a need to learn it. The database is open, Access database, so anyone could take that and work with it.

jmm8356,

1. Nothing really bad, it will work. On the League summary page, the link to the Division History chart would be missing. There might be in places where the wording is odd, but I can't find any right now.

2. This will not work. The data won't import if a league name is blank.

3. Not sure what you mean. A 2-league, 1 division setup is a standard historical MLB setup. It would work fine.

koohead · 07-27-2004, 01:46 AM

Just noticed something, and maybe this was never there...but on the Awards page, it just says Batter Award and Pitcher Award. Didn't the headings use to have the names as they appeared in OOTP6?

by the way...thanks...I love this utility

koohead · 07-27-2004, 02:31 AM

Nevermind...just ran season number 2 and the award names are there. weird. I'll chalk it up to a fluke.

Ktulu · 07-27-2004, 12:50 PM

Not sure if this is just me but when you are on a team page and you click on a manager name, its looking for the manager in the team's directory but these pages don't exist under team directories.

Just a minor problem with the html reports I thought I would bring to your attention(if you didnt already know about it)

disposableheros · 07-27-2004, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ktulu

Not sure if this is just me....

its not just you, me too

SandMan · 07-27-2004, 03:52 PM

the option to have presimmed stats included into the leaders boards. To speed up the compilation of stats I break my league into 25 year periods and create a new database. I would love to have the option to have the current players career records brought into the new leaders boards......

jbmagic · 07-29-2004, 02:05 PM

i am brand new to catobase and i have ootp 6..

which files i need to download?

thanks

jcato · 07-29-2004, 08:41 PM

Download the 5.4.0 version, unzip it and run the setup program. Then download the update to 6.1.3 and unzip it to the folder you installed CatoBase to, usually c:\program files\CatoBase.

Operation Shutdown · 07-30-2004, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d_elliott

Jeff,

Would you consider saving your results in an XML database rather than an Access database. This would let people use XSL to query and format html pages.

Dan

I'm not certain, but I thought I remember hearing from someone that the latest version of Access will actually allow you to convert an Access Database into XML format. I don't have the latest version of Access, so I'm not sure if that option is really there or whether it works very well or not.

SpaceMonkey13 · 08-04-2004, 11:26 PM

I've yet to upgrade and found an issue with slg% on the team batting register. Slg% is very low (eg., player slugged over .600 his 2 years in the league but batting register has his slg at .457). Seems to be the case for any player with more than a handful of ExBH. Has this been fixed in the patch, or even found by anyone else? Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere, a quick search of your forum turned up nothing.

thx for this great utility...

gcsii99 · 08-05-2004, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey13

I've yet to upgrade and found an issue with slg% on the team batting register. Slg% is very low (eg., player slugged over .600 his 2 years in the league but batting register has his slg at .457). Seems to be the case for any player with more than a handful of ExBH. Has this been fixed in the patch, or even found by anyone else? Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere, a quick search of your forum turned up nothing.

thx for this great utility...

Wow...i'm seeing the same thing...never noticed that at all

jcato · 08-05-2004, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey13

I've yet to upgrade and found an issue with slg% on the team batting register. Slg% is very low (eg., player slugged over .600 his 2 years in the league but batting register has his slg at .457). Seems to be the case for any player with more than a handful of ExBH. Has this been fixed in the patch, or even found by anyone else? Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere, a quick search of your forum turned up nothing.

thx for this great utility...

Wow, nice catch. There's an error in the formula for OBP, SLG, and OPS. I must have been tired when I did that section! I'll fix it for the next update.

Long_Long_Name · 08-06-2004, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disposableheros

its not just you, me too

x3

Came here to mention it.

eriqjaffe · 08-09-2004, 02:53 PM

Jeff,

I didn't notice this being mentioned, but forgive me if it already has: Could CatoBase be expanded to include the players in the retired.dat file? I started my MLB league in 2004, so there are 103 years of history that aren't reflected in the CatoBase. I suppose I could try monkeying with the database manually, but that seems like more work than I really want to put into it...

Operation Shutdown · 08-10-2004, 09:55 AM

Not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but since you've included pre-sim stats listed for players in the Hall of Fame, is there any way that you can use these stats to determine, the grey ink, black ink and Hall of Fame Standards scores?

07-25-2004, 02:14 AM	#22 (permalink)
Shorty All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 987	gb, or just take whoever had postseason stats that year from the champion team. ANOTHER THING: Designated Hitter Positional Chart! Maybe a checkbox under the Options to indicate which leagues (if any) have the DH? Pleeease! I hate having an awesome player not show up because he's a DH. __________________ JBL Orix Blue Wave / Co-Commisioner Japanese baseball at it's finest.

07-25-2004, 10:25 AM	#23 (permalink)
jcato Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 194	gbmoore121, I think you're right. That's what I'm going to look into. Shorty, the postseason stat approach would leave out players on the 25-man who didn't play. That wouldn't be right. And, you're right, the DH should be included. __________________ CatoBase Home

07-26-2004, 03:27 PM	#25 (permalink)
jmm8356 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 1,558	From the readme: "Divisions must have names, even if there is only one division in each league." A few questions for jcato: 1) What kind of bad things happen if you do not name your divisions? 2) What kind of bad things, if any, would happen if you do not name your leagues? 3) Do you have any suggestions for those running a 2 league, 1 division per league setup? (which is really a one league, two division setup w/ playoffs) I just would rather not see that a team won the "Western Division Western Division" or "Wst Western" crown. (Incidentially, why are league abbreviations limited to three characters in OOTP? It's bad enough to have separate divisional record books and leader boards, but "He's leading the Est [or Wst] in HRs with 12!"? Ridiculous.) __________________ Jeremy from Tonawanda --- Go Cubbies! Proposed sub-title for OOTP:FE ... "Catobase shmatobase!" Confederate Baseball Association and Confederate Baseball Dynasty

07-26-2004, 10:14 PM	#26 (permalink)
jcato Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 194	d_elliott, Probably not. I don't know much about XML, and don't have a need to learn it. The database is open, Access database, so anyone could take that and work with it. jmm8356, 1. Nothing really bad, it will work. On the League summary page, the link to the Division History chart would be missing. There might be in places where the wording is odd, but I can't find any right now. 2. This will not work. The data won't import if a league name is blank. 3. Not sure what you mean. A 2-league, 1 division setup is a standard historical MLB setup. It would work fine. __________________ CatoBase Home

07-27-2004, 01:46 AM	#27 (permalink)
koohead All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 1,183	Just noticed something, and maybe this was never there...but on the Awards page, it just says Batter Award and Pitcher Award. Didn't the headings use to have the names as they appeared in OOTP6? by the way...thanks...I love this utility __________________ GM - NC Clippers of the NPBL; 2001,2004,2007 FF Central Division Champs; 2001, 2004, 2007 FFL Champions; 2004 NPBL Champions

07-24-2004, 02:22 PM	#21 (permalink)
gbmoore121 Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 384	Hey Cato, couldn't you get championships won from the player histories. Not sure if it would be possible to use them or not. I think people would have to be able to manually enter their "Championship" name, though.

07-25-2004, 01:22 PM	#24 (permalink)
d_elliott Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 20	Jeff, Would you consider saving your results in an XML database rather than an Access database. This would let people use XSL to query and format html pages. Dan

07-27-2004, 02:31 AM	#28 (permalink)
koohead All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 1,183	Nevermind...just ran season number 2 and the award names are there. weird. I'll chalk it up to a fluke. __________________ GM - NC Clippers of the NPBL; 2001,2004,2007 FF Central Division Champs; 2001, 2004, 2007 FFL Champions; 2004 NPBL Champions

07-27-2004, 12:50 PM	#29 (permalink)
Ktulu All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 1,376	Not sure if this is just me but when you are on a team page and you click on a manager name, its looking for the manager in the team's directory but these pages don't exist under team directories. Just a minor problem with the html reports I thought I would bring to your attention(if you didnt already know about it) __________________ WHBL - Calgary Nighthawks All-Time Record: 1035-749 .580 Seasons over .500: 11 Seasons under .500: 0 Americas Cup Championships: 2002, 2003 North American League Pennants: 2001, 2002, 2003 NA West Division Titles: 2011 Wild Cards: 2001, 2002, 2003 "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

07-27-2004, 03:52 PM	#31 (permalink)
SandMan All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Kenosha, Wisconsin Posts: 1,843	I would like to see... the option to have presimmed stats included into the leaders boards. To speed up the compilation of stats I break my league into 25 year periods and create a new database. I would love to have the option to have the current players career records brought into the new leaders boards......

07-29-2004, 02:05 PM	#32 (permalink)
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	i am brand new to catobase and i have ootp 6.. which files i need to download? thanks

07-29-2004, 08:41 PM	#33 (permalink)
jcato Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 194	Download the 5.4.0 version, unzip it and run the setup program. Then download the update to 6.1.3 and unzip it to the folder you installed CatoBase to, usually c:\program files\CatoBase. __________________ CatoBase Home

08-04-2004, 11:26 PM	#35 (permalink)
SpaceMonkey13 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Space Posts: 30	I've yet to upgrade and found an issue with slg% on the team batting register. Slg% is very low (eg., player slugged over .600 his 2 years in the league but batting register has his slg at .457). Seems to be the case for any player with more than a handful of ExBH. Has this been fixed in the patch, or even found by anyone else? Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere, a quick search of your forum turned up nothing. thx for this great utility...

08-10-2004, 09:55 AM	#40 (permalink)
Operation Shutdown All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 783	Not sure if this has been mentioned before or not, but since you've included pre-sim stats listed for players in the Hall of Fame, is there any way that you can use these stats to determine, the grey ink, black ink and Hall of Fame Standards scores? __________________ "And Shepherds we shall be, For thee, my Lord, for thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."

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