Stickware dilemma

Go Tribe · 07-26-2004, 12:20 PM

No matter what seed i enter, I CANNOT get interdivision games in September. It seems that the division vs division matchups are set in stone and that the seed just changes which team from each division play each other.

Anyone come up with a solution to this or is there a general consensus that this is the case?

Any way (besides by hand) to get a 24 team (2 x 3 x 4) schedule with interleague play and september inter-division matchups into ootp5?

gmo · 07-26-2004, 12:48 PM

With only 3 division opponents, I can see where intradivision games are hard to come by. There is one schedule of that configuration in the "Import into OOTP6" thread. Of course you'd have to be careful with backing up, etc, etc, but I think since you can copy the Stickware created schedule.dat files into V4, V5, V6, it seems like it would be possible to import a csv-format schedule file into V6, then copy the resulting .dat file into V5. In fact I just tested it and it worked, at least the schedule appeared and everything looked fine like when copying the .dat file from Stickware. If you do not have V6, I could post a copy of the .dat file in a .zip file for you to just copy into your V5 league. {EDIT: This may not be quite so simple, as in my test it was the same league I constructed in V5, imported in V6, imported the schedule, then copied the .dat file back to V5. The .dat files may not be able to be as generic as the new csv files may be for V6. But it can work one way or another though it my take you sending the .lg folder to someone to import into V6, then them importing the csv file, then sending you the resulting .dat file.}

Anyway, check out the details for that schedule linked in the first post. Actually here's a link to it. I believe the only Sept intradivision games are the last 3 series are against the other 3 division teams. That is a league configuration for which I have a league I plan on playing soon, and that was one of the first schedules I made myself, so I've been thinking of doing another for that set up anyway. If another distribution of games would be preferable to you, describe it and I may give it a whirl. With my experience and that not being too difficult a configuration to work with, it would probably be relatively easy for me to make one.

Go Tribe · 07-26-2004, 06:46 PM

thanks i'll try that

what i was leaning towards is ...

162 games

54 games within division (18 games x 3 opponents)
96 within league (12 games x 8 opponents)
12 games interleague (3 games x 4 opponents)

best case scenario would be to have each team play around 18 games within division in Sept

i like the schedule you posted but too many interleague for me. the 2 game 3 game and 4 game series work great too. less chance of having #1's face each other all the time.

if there's anyway you could hammer the one above out, i'd be forever grateful!!!

thanks for the quick reply earlier too

gmo · 07-27-2004, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Tribe

thanks i'll try that

what i was leaning towards is ...

162 games

54 games within division (18 games x 3 opponents)
96 within league (12 games x 8 opponents)
12 games interleague (3 games x 4 opponents)

best case scenario would be to have each team play around 18 games within division in Sept

i like the schedule you posted but too many interleague for me. the 2 game 3 game and 4 game series work great too. less chance of having #1's face each other all the time.

if there's anyway you could hammer the one above out, i'd be forever grateful!!!

thanks for the quick reply earlier too

Think I have you taken care of - check out the results:

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...353#post795353

Let me know if you have any problems getting it into V5 like I described above.

Go Tribe · 07-27-2004, 01:44 AM

you are awesome!

thanks so much

i do have a quick question. our league in v5 is currently in the middle of free agency (before Spring Training obviously). when would be the best time to do the schedule?

thanks again for all your work

Go Tribe · 07-27-2004, 02:32 AM

ok figured out question 1 but now i have another

it appears that the three csv's have similar schedules but different interleague. csv1 has ALdivision1 playing NLdivision1, csv2 has ALdivision1 playing NLdivision2 and csv3 has ALdivision1 playing NLdivision3 (or something close to that)

the solution i have in mind is to generate three schedule.dat files, one for each csv, and rotate them each year so you'd have rotating interleague play (which rocks). it appears that the intraleague games are all the same for all 3 schedules. so what i think i have to do is import csv1, sim out a season, proceed to year2 which generates a different schedule, and save THAT .dat file as dat1. then do the same for csv's 2 & 3. then i'd have 3 dat files and i'd play the same schedule every 3 years with interleague alternating against each division in the opposite league

does that make sense?

gmo · 07-27-2004, 03:25 AM

Sounds like you got it, but just in case - loading the dat file anytime before the games begin should be fine.

I am pretty sure I follow, and your rotation plan sounds very good. You get OOTP to mixup the matchups by saving the file after proceeding, but mix the interleague by rotating files 1, 2, & 3 every three year period.

I think the only issue would be that except for the interleague games the schedules would be identical the first three years before the game mixed the teams in the divisions going to another season. But you could run random sims on a backup league file using the 2nd & 3rd files then saving the resulting dat files just like you plan to do in general. Hope that makes sense.

Go Tribe · 07-27-2004, 09:53 AM

Exactly! The more I think about it, the more I like it. Would be very easy to create a large number of random schedules and just name them after the year that I intend to use them (ie schedule2012.dat). if done properly, it would be very easy to generate 9 years of random schedules with interleague rotating every season

thanks again!

07-26-2004, 12:48 PM	#2
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,154	With only 3 division opponents, I can see where intradivision games are hard to come by. There is one schedule of that configuration in the "Import into OOTP6" thread. Of course you'd have to be careful with backing up, etc, etc, but I think since you can copy the Stickware created schedule.dat files into V4, V5, V6, it seems like it would be possible to import a csv-format schedule file into V6, then copy the resulting .dat file into V5. In fact I just tested it and it worked, at least the schedule appeared and everything looked fine like when copying the .dat file from Stickware. If you do not have V6, I could post a copy of the .dat file in a .zip file for you to just copy into your V5 league. {EDIT: This may not be quite so simple, as in my test it was the same league I constructed in V5, imported in V6, imported the schedule, then copied the .dat file back to V5. The .dat files may not be able to be as generic as the new csv files may be for V6. But it can work one way or another though it my take you sending the .lg folder to someone to import into V6, then them importing the csv file, then sending you the resulting .dat file.} Anyway, check out the details for that schedule linked in the first post. Actually here's a link to it. I believe the only Sept intradivision games are the last 3 series are against the other 3 division teams. That is a league configuration for which I have a league I plan on playing soon, and that was one of the first schedules I made myself, so I've been thinking of doing another for that set up anyway. If another distribution of games would be preferable to you, describe it and I may give it a whirl. With my experience and that not being too difficult a configuration to work with, it would probably be relatively easy for me to make one. Last edited by gmo; 07-26-2004 at 12:57 PM.

07-26-2004, 12:20 PM	#1
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Stickware dilemma No matter what seed i enter, I CANNOT get interdivision games in September. It seems that the division vs division matchups are set in stone and that the seed just changes which team from each division play each other. Anyone come up with a solution to this or is there a general consensus that this is the case? Any way (besides by hand) to get a 24 team (2 x 3 x 4) schedule with interleague play and september inter-division matchups into ootp5?

07-26-2004, 06:46 PM	#3
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	thanks i'll try that what i was leaning towards is ... 162 games 54 games within division (18 games x 3 opponents) 96 within league (12 games x 8 opponents) 12 games interleague (3 games x 4 opponents) best case scenario would be to have each team play around 18 games within division in Sept i like the schedule you posted but too many interleague for me. the 2 game 3 game and 4 game series work great too. less chance of having #1's face each other all the time. if there's anyway you could hammer the one above out, i'd be forever grateful!!! thanks for the quick reply earlier too

07-27-2004, 01:44 AM	#5
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	you are awesome! thanks so much i do have a quick question. our league in v5 is currently in the middle of free agency (before Spring Training obviously). when would be the best time to do the schedule? thanks again for all your work

07-27-2004, 02:32 AM	#6
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	ok figured out question 1 but now i have another it appears that the three csv's have similar schedules but different interleague. csv1 has ALdivision1 playing NLdivision1, csv2 has ALdivision1 playing NLdivision2 and csv3 has ALdivision1 playing NLdivision3 (or something close to that) the solution i have in mind is to generate three schedule.dat files, one for each csv, and rotate them each year so you'd have rotating interleague play (which rocks). it appears that the intraleague games are all the same for all 3 schedules. so what i think i have to do is import csv1, sim out a season, proceed to year2 which generates a different schedule, and save THAT .dat file as dat1. then do the same for csv's 2 & 3. then i'd have 3 dat files and i'd play the same schedule every 3 years with interleague alternating against each division in the opposite league does that make sense?

07-27-2004, 03:25 AM	#7
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,154	Sounds like you got it, but just in case - loading the dat file anytime before the games begin should be fine. I am pretty sure I follow, and your rotation plan sounds very good. You get OOTP to mixup the matchups by saving the file after proceeding, but mix the interleague by rotating files 1, 2, & 3 every three year period. I think the only issue would be that except for the interleague games the schedules would be identical the first three years before the game mixed the teams in the divisions going to another season. But you could run random sims on a backup league file using the 2nd & 3rd files then saving the resulting dat files just like you plan to do in general. Hope that makes sense.

07-27-2004, 09:53 AM	#8
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Exactly! The more I think about it, the more I like it. Would be very easy to create a large number of random schedules and just name them after the year that I intend to use them (ie schedule2012.dat). if done properly, it would be very easy to generate 9 years of random schedules with interleague rotating every season thanks again!