Awards in Catobase

[Deitrus]

I know I ask alot of questions, however, I appreciate all of the help I get on these forums. The more I use Cato the more I will become more familar with it.

I have yet another question about Catobase. I just finished importing stats and generating the HTML files. This is my first time ever using Catobase. I wanted to import players for the Fireman, Post season MVP, & Manager awards but when I click on "IMPORT" it says that "these players already exsist, do you want to overwrite them?

What should I do? Do I click yes and if I do will that overwrite the players stats (or anything else) or does that just add them to the award list? Basically, is it safe to do?

Thanks.

[gmo]

I think that if you set input option to import award winners you do not even need to worry about that import award winners button after you import all the stats. Are there not already players shown winning the batter/pitcher of year awards and fielding awards? You can then just use the pulldown menus to select manually winners for the other awards OOTP does not have.

[Aordolin]

You dont need to import the award winners after doing the initial data import. All the winners the game assigned should already be in there, just the extra awards like fireman, manager of the year wont be in. If you want to change the winner just use the pull down menus to pick the winners yourself or change the ones already listed.

[Deitrus]

OK, so I have to import Frireman award, manager of the year award. Do I have to import Post season MVP award or is that already imported? Thanks again guys.

[DaveHorn]

Originally Posted by Deitrus

OK, so I have to import Frireman award, manager of the year award. Do I have to import Post season MVP award or is that already imported? Thanks again guys.

OOTP doesn't assign fireman award, manager of the year or post seaon MVP, so you can't import those awards. The only awards you can import are the awards that OOTP create such as MVP, Cy Young, ROY. To do those other awards, you just assign them to a player using CATO after you have imported all your stats but before you create the HTML.

[Deitrus]

So Davehorn, I have already imported stats and created the HTML pages. Does this mean that I cannot go into Catobase and go to the screen where you can import /assign fireman award, manager of the year or post seaon MVP awards? I ask because why then does it say "import" on that screen? Should I just run Catobase again (erasing the other cato database) and then chose these awards BEFORE I run Catobase? I have backed up my league already. Thanks.

[jmm8356]

The "Import" option on the Awards screen is there in case your game-chosen awards (Batter / Pitcher / Rookie of the Year) do not import correctly for some reason. (I think this was a common problem with earlier versions of Catobase and/or OOTP, but does not happen much with the latest and greatest versions.)

You can still assign the user-chosen awards (Fireman / Manager / Postseason MVP), even if you've created the HTML. They won't show up in your web pages until you regenerate them, obviously, but you don't have to regenerate right away if you'd rather wait until your next season's end.

[DaveHorn]

I've never had a problem importing the OOTP awards (RoY, CyY, MVP). But I am still using Cato 6.0.0 because the newer versions don't work for me yet (known bug Jeff says he will fix in the next update).

As jmm said, if you want to assign those awards all you need to do is assign them and regenerate the HTML. Unless something goes wrong, you only need to import once for each season. After that, you can modify things to your hearts content and continually regenerate the HTML until you get it perfect.

[Deitrus]

OK, heres the deal. I do not want to import the Cy Young award, MVP award, ect (the ones that the game *OOTP6* does automatically) because those are already chosen HOWEVER the fireman award, post season MVP award, and managers award are not chosen by the game (OOTP6).

Keep this in mind, I do not mind if I have to "re-run" catoase again as I have not "proceeded to the next season yet" in my league. I want to get all my "ducks in a row" before I proceed.

So, what I have in mind is deleting the current catobase database (for example, mlb.lg *not my league folder just what cato created*) and then re-doing it but before I re-do it (Heres the question) ..... should I choose the fireman award, post season MVP award, and managers award (which OOTP does not choose) before I create the new database?

[SandMan]

You can just manually select the players for the user-chosen awards without re-running catobase.

Just select the players from the drop down list and if you want to just re-run the create html option to recreate the html docs...

[DaveHorn]

You seem rather confused Deitrus. I'll try to summarize.

First, award winners have no bearing on importing the stats. There is no need to reimport any stats just because of the award winners.

If you don't import the OOTP selected award winners than CATO won't have them and when you look at the CATO HTML you won't have winners for those categories. So you have 3 choices.

1. Do nothing - you'll have no award winners
2. Import - you have the same RoY, CyY, MVP as selected by OOTP
3. Chose your own from the drop down

Option #2 is really just a lazy way of getting the OOTP selections. You can simply just select whomever OOTP selected in option #3 instead of doing the importing. The end result is the same. However, for awards that are in CATO but not OOTP, your only choices are #1 and #3.

Make sense?

[Deitrus]

Originally Posted by DaveHorn

You seem rather confused Deitrus. I'll try to summarize.

First, award winners have no bearing on importing the stats. There is no need to reimport any stats just because of the award winners.

If you don't import the OOTP selected award winners than CATO won't have them and when you look at the CATO HTML you won't have winners for those categories. So you have 3 choices.

1. Do nothing - you'll have no award winners
2. Import - you have the same RoY, CyY, MVP as selected by OOTP
3. Chose your own from the drop down

Option #2 is really just a lazy way of getting the OOTP selections. You can simply just select whomever OOTP selected in option #3 instead of doing the importing. The end result is the same. However, for awards that are in CATO but not OOTP, your only choices are #1 and #3.

Make sense?

Yes, that makes sense. I do see that cato (in its drop down list) has award winners listed. I also see to the right that there is a list where it says (fireman award, manager award, post season award) ... when I look there there isnt any names listed. I understand that you can import these awards and choose who you want to have the (fireman award, manager award, post season award) HOWEVER, like I said when I click on a name to be imported it says, do you really want to overwrtie the player with selected player) again HOWEVER....there was no player selected because the drop down lists that contained the fireman award, manager award, post season award were empty. If OOTP or Cato did not import these before then why does it say "do you really want to overwrtie the player with selected player"? What player is there to overwrite if the list was empty? This is where I am confised.

NOTE: I am not referring to the awards that are in the game such as (goldemn glove award, batter award, MVP award, ect) that are in the awards HTML page.

Thanks for all the help.

[DaveHorn]

Originally Posted by Deitrus

"do you really want to overwrtie the player with selected player"? What player is there to overwrite if the list was empty? This is where I am confised.

Ah, my version does not do that (just tried it). I imagine that is just a small glitch caused by CATO being extra careful, but forgot to check if there was something there before putting up the new prompt.

[endgame]

Originally Posted by DaveHorn

I've never had a problem importing the OOTP awards (RoY, CyY, MVP). But I am still using Cato 6.0.0 because the newer versions don't work for me yet (known bug Jeff says he will fix in the next update).

As jmm said, if you want to assign those awards all you need to do is assign them and regenerate the HTML. Unless something goes wrong, you only need to import once for each season. After that, you can modify things to your hearts content and continually regenerate the HTML until you get it perfect.

You can still do this after selecting Proceed to Next Season? It sounds like you're saying it's okay, and the menu (I'm using 6.1.4) seems to be sortable by year. And then you have to re-generate ALL html? It looks like the only appropriate selection - the selection under Import Stats on Cato main screen.

Thanks in advance.

[jmm8356]

Originally Posted by endgame

You can still do this after selecting Proceed to Next Season? It sounds like you're saying it's okay, and the menu (I'm using 6.1.4) seems to be sortable by year. And then you have to re-generate ALL html? It looks like the only appropriate selection - the selection under Import Stats on Cato main screen.

Thanks in advance.

Yes, you can Edit Awards at any point, and I don't think you'd have to regenerate all years, because the awards pages are regenerated every year anyway to add the new award winners.

[disposableheros]

Originally Posted by Deitrus

Yes, that makes sense. I do see that cato (in its drop down list) has award winners listed. I also see to the right that there is a list where it says (fireman award, manager award, post season award) ... when I look there there isnt any names listed. I understand that you can import these awards and choose who you want to have the (fireman award, manager award, post season award) HOWEVER, like I said when I click on a name to be imported it says, do you really want to overwrtie the player with selected player) again HOWEVER....there was no player selected because the drop down lists that contained the fireman award, manager award, post season award were empty. If OOTP or Cato did not import these before then why does it say "do you really want to overwrtie the player with selected player"? What player is there to overwrite if the list was empty? This is where I am confised.

NOTE: I am not referring to the awards that are in the game such as (goldemn glove award, batter award, MVP award, ect) that are in the awards HTML page.

Thanks for all the help.

i think i see the misunderstanding. the fireman, manager, post-season awards ARE NOT IMPORTED. the MVP, CY, and RoY ARE IMPORTED. so when you do the initial import, the MVP, CY, and RoY awards will be listed, but the others will be blank. go ahead and fill in the fireman, manager, and post-season awards AND THEN create the HTML (if it asks about overwriting, answer yes because you didnt change the MVP, CY and RoY anyways and you dont want 2 winners for each league). if you forget or want to fill in the fireman, manager, and post-season awards for previous years, then you will have to recreate the HTML before they will show up, but you dont have to re-import.

[Carlton]

Even if you haven't selected those awards 10 years in a row, when you import your next CatoBase year, you can go to the year....select your first year using cato base...then select thos award winners each year

I sometimes forget to do manager of the year for the previous year...and thus far no problems...when I run catobase it will give me this years and last years manager of the year on the html files

[endgame]

Originally Posted by DaveHorn

OOTP doesn't assign fireman award, manager of the year or post seaon MVP, so you can't import those awards. The only awards you can import are the awards that OOTP create such as MVP, Cy Young, ROY. To do those other awards, you just assign them to a player using CATO after you have imported all your stats but before you create the HTML.

KNEW there was something I was forgetting to do! Alright, so after I already hit the HTML button, I can edit the award winners - and then simply generate the HTML again to complete the project - the long way around?

[disposableheros]

Originally Posted by endgame

KNEW there was something I was forgetting to do! Alright, so after I already hit the HTML button, I can edit the award winners - and then simply generate the HTML again to complete the project - the long way around?

yep, or wait until next year's import / generation