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Vris · 10-14-2005, 08:06 PM

I have no idea how successful this would be or if it has been tried before.

I'm poor and not very web-savvy (or is it saavy?) so having a website is out of the question, for me. But, I've always wanted to run a league. This could (theoretically) work.

The deal: I email out the file. GMs make their changes and email it back. I import all the changes, run the sim. Then, I email the file back out, with a calculated inventory of what went on during the sim.

A couple downfalls: I don't know if this could be a "sim so many days, every day" league. Possibly. I'd love to do 15-20 days a sim, a sim a day...if you catch my drift. The lack of a website would most definitely suck, with no way to get the player pages up online, neither catobase or a forum. The lack of a forum is probably the biggest thing. How does one do free agent offers, and trades even? No real way to contact the other owners (other than email, messaging services...). It would work like fantasy sports did back in the day. Except then you usually called your buddy up on the phone and worked a deal out that way. Not so much in this case.

Has anyone tried a league this way before? How successful was it? Would anyone want to try a league this way, or are we all pretty much locked in to all leagues have a website? I'm interested in people's thoughts on this.

sporr · 10-14-2005, 08:50 PM

You could email the league file and have owners email you back with their exports which you would import on your end before each sim. However, some people may have limits on the size of email they can receive. That could cause problems.

Vris · 10-14-2005, 09:16 PM

That was the plan.

You do present a problem, but I thought email has evolved into something where we can have large files stocked away? Probably not for long periods of time, but with the advent of GMail and the like, I thought it was possible to send large files? I'd have to look and see what the limit is on mine.

Raderick · 10-14-2005, 10:21 PM

One of the owners in the WCBL (hint, Missoula Vris

) ran an e-mail style league that was quite successful.

Vris · 10-14-2005, 10:57 PM

Oh really? Hmmm....

BruceM · 10-15-2005, 11:50 AM

If you had a place where you could host the league file for download, I don't think you'd have a problem doing this. You'd only need about 20 - 30 MB of web space.

Vris · 10-15-2005, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceM

If you had a place where you could host the league file for download, I don't think you'd have a problem doing this. You'd only need about 20 - 30 MB of web space.

That's the thing. The file wouldn't be hosted anywhere. After each sim, it would be emailed out to everyone in the league.

I know nothing about "hosting a file", thus the question. It would be a lot cheaper and easier for me to email it out.

BruceM · 10-15-2005, 01:23 PM

Hosting a file is easy. Get yourself some free web space. Zip the file after each sim and upload it. Give the link to your owners.

There's no cost involved.

Emailing it would be very difficult, especially as the season wears on and the file grows. Even if you take out unnecessary files, it still gets up there in size.

Vris · 10-15-2005, 01:46 PM

Get myself some free webspace? Upload it?

These are foreign thoughts to me. I have no idea how to do any of those things. I do, however, know how to email.

I guess I'll have to do some more research.

f.montoya · 10-15-2005, 08:38 PM

I can do it all for you. Absolutely no knowledge on websites, ftp, and all the other foreign computer vocabulary, is necessary. No strings attatched. Quit anytime.

check out www.allsimbaseball.com and see the features.

If you know how to turn on a computer and use email, or even AIM, you can do it. I give you live tutorials.

PM me if you have any questions.

Aussie Mark · 10-15-2005, 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vris

Get myself some free webspace? Upload it?

These are foreign thoughts to me. I have no idea how to do any of those things.

I hope you're at college on a sports scholarship. If not, good luck.

canadiancreed · 10-15-2005, 09:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Mark

I hope you're at college on a sports scholarship. If not, good luck.

Not everyone is a web designer/developer/network guru you know. You probably insulted half the board with that.

f.montoya · 10-15-2005, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

Not everyone is a web designer/developer/network guru you know. You probably insulted half the board with that.

Well said. People all have different skills and lack several skills as well. That's what makes society work. We all do our parts.

Vris · 10-15-2005, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Mark

I hope you're at college on a sports scholarship. If not, good luck.

That was uncalled for. I graduated college with a BS in Mathematics, thank you.

And sports are hardly my strong suit.

Aussie Mark · 10-16-2005, 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

Not everyone is a web designer/developer/network guru you know.

I'm not either, but I know how to use Google. Back in my day I had to go to the library to research something. These days you kids have got it easy

Vris · 10-16-2005, 12:44 PM

What does using Google have to do with being at school with a sports scholarship? Since you're bringing absolutely nothing of consequence to this thread, I will ignore you.

Are there any other people out there who would be interested in such a league? I've gotten a couple of responses, but I'm still looking for more inquiries.

And thanks Fidel. I'll think about it.

Cooleyvol · 10-16-2005, 01:54 PM

I think he was stating that you could find out how to host/upload a file by using Google.

Aussie Mark · 10-16-2005, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

I think he was stating that you could find out how to host/upload a file by using Google.

Give that man a cigar

Vris · 10-17-2005, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aussie Mark

I hope you're at college on a sports scholarship. If not, good luck.

With this response? Hardly.

Jeremy Weimer · 10-17-2005, 05:06 PM

I'd just like to take this time to say: I <3 you Vris.

10-14-2005, 08:06 PM	#1 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,247	Email League I have no idea how successful this would be or if it has been tried before. I'm poor and not very web-savvy (or is it saavy?) so having a website is out of the question, for me. But, I've always wanted to run a league. This could (theoretically) work. The deal: I email out the file. GMs make their changes and email it back. I import all the changes, run the sim. Then, I email the file back out, with a calculated inventory of what went on during the sim. A couple downfalls: I don't know if this could be a "sim so many days, every day" league. Possibly. I'd love to do 15-20 days a sim, a sim a day...if you catch my drift. The lack of a website would most definitely suck, with no way to get the player pages up online, neither catobase or a forum. The lack of a forum is probably the biggest thing. How does one do free agent offers, and trades even? No real way to contact the other owners (other than email, messaging services...). It would work like fantasy sports did back in the day. Except then you usually called your buddy up on the phone and worked a deal out that way. Not so much in this case. Has anyone tried a league this way before? How successful was it? Would anyone want to try a league this way, or are we all pretty much locked in to all leagues have a website? I'm interested in people's thoughts on this. __________________ None Blog it.

10-14-2005, 08:50 PM	#2 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,247 Thanked 2x in 1 post	You could email the league file and have owners email you back with their exports which you would import on your end before each sim. However, some people may have limits on the size of email they can receive. That could cause problems. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

10-14-2005, 09:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,247	That was the plan. You do present a problem, but I thought email has evolved into something where we can have large files stocked away? Probably not for long periods of time, but with the advent of GMail and the like, I thought it was possible to send large files? I'd have to look and see what the limit is on mine. __________________ None Blog it.

10-14-2005, 10:57 PM	#5 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,247	Oh really? Hmmm.... __________________ None Blog it.

10-15-2005, 11:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
BruceM Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 4,074 Thanked 60x in 32 posts	If you had a place where you could host the league file for download, I don't think you'd have a problem doing this. You'd only need about 20 - 30 MB of web space. __________________ It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?

10-15-2005, 01:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
BruceM Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 4,074 Thanked 60x in 32 posts	Hosting a file is easy. Get yourself some free web space. Zip the file after each sim and upload it. Give the link to your owners. There's no cost involved. Emailing it would be very difficult, especially as the season wears on and the file grows. Even if you take out unnecessary files, it still gets up there in size. __________________ It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?

10-15-2005, 01:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,247	Get myself some free webspace? Upload it? These are foreign thoughts to me. I have no idea how to do any of those things. I do, however, know how to email. I guess I'll have to do some more research. __________________ None Blog it.

10-15-2005, 08:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 5,108 Thanked 29x in 11 posts	I can do it all for you. Absolutely no knowledge on websites, ftp, and all the other foreign computer vocabulary, is necessary. No strings attatched. Quit anytime. check out www.allsimbaseball.com and see the features. If you know how to turn on a computer and use email, or even AIM, you can do it. I give you live tutorials. PM me if you have any questions. __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) www.allsimbaseball.com (OOTP web hosting - Customized sites for online leagues - No website knowledge necessary!) Share Your Mods - Free, unlimited and easy to upload to share your Mods instantly(free site registration required)

10-16-2005, 12:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,247	What does using Google have to do with being at school with a sports scholarship? Since you're bringing absolutely nothing of consequence to this thread, I will ignore you. Are there any other people out there who would be interested in such a league? I've gotten a couple of responses, but I'm still looking for more inquiries. And thanks Fidel. I'll think about it. __________________ None Blog it.

10-16-2005, 01:54 PM	#17 (permalink)
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Woodland Mills, TN Posts: 4,565 Thanked 38x in 28 posts Infractions: 1/0 (0)	I think he was stating that you could find out how to host/upload a file by using Google. __________________ Commissioner of Hardball Heroes, a great 1920s league with a great backstory and active GMs. Check us out and if you're interested, sign up for our 'waiting list' league, the PCL.

10-17-2005, 05:06 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jeremy Weimer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Champlin, MN Posts: 3,332	I'd just like to take this time to say: I <3 you Vris. __________________ HBC - Kansas City Athletics MHBL - Chicago White Sox P2P - New York Giants

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