Looking for a very in-depth league

[johnd24_42]

Looking for a very in-depth league
I've grown tired of fantasy leagues where all you do is click "active" or "reserve". I want full control over a franchise but also a league that updates their CatoBase as often as possible.

I would really like to find an in-depth league where the commissioner updates the HTML on the league website after every sim as I can't use OOTP at work, but I can check out the league website.

An updated CatoBase, again, is a huge thing for me, as I'm a huge stats fiend (I'm sure many on this board are) and this is just essential in any league.

I would also prefer to find a league with a very active forum. Anything less than extremely active and I probably wouldn't be interested. I can access the internet, like I said, at work, so this would be vital.

Finally, and this is one thing that not all leagues have - are incentives for article writing to improve your franchise. Some have it, but others don't. I find that when owners are given incentives, they write more articles and are generally more active in a league. This would also be something I'd really prefer in a league.

A salary cap is also something I'd strongly prefer.

I am basically looking to be in ONE OOTP league and devote my time to it. I would expect my future fellow owners to be the same, and would only want to join a league where it is a cut above the rest and where the owners treat that league as their main league and the commish holds updating the league site and doing sims as a priority.

Is a league like this out there? I've checked the online league list and this board, and have seen some really nice prospects, but haven't been completely bowled over by any I've seen, and maybe I won't be. But maybe some experienced OOTP guys can point me in the right direction.

Thank you in advance for any helpful input!

[OBL]

www.smallballonline.com

[johnd24_42]

Originally Posted by OBL

www.smallballonline.com

thank you for the response. however, i am hoping to join a league that operates a fully functional CatoBase for their entire league history.

[fhomess]

Check out the JOBL. Link in my sig.

[DaveHorn]

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

Looking for a very in-depth league I would really like to find an in-depth league where the commissioner updates the HTML on the league website after every sim as I can't use OOTP at work, but I can check out the league website.

Of course as any good commish would do.

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

An updated CatoBase, again, is a huge thing for me, as I'm a huge stats fiend (I'm sure many on this board are) and this is just essential in any league.

Absoltely agree. Every year of HFTC in CATO here.
HFTC Cato

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

I would also prefer to find a league with a very active forum. Anything less than extremely active and I probably wouldn't be interested. I can access the internet, like I said, at work, so this would be vital.

No league would hold a candle to HFTCs owners. 31 owners of which more than half are original owners. 33188 posts in HFTC of those 15608 are in the General forum alone.
HFTC Forum

Or how about activity in terms of trades? No one could match HFTC's 1155 trades among owners. We average over 70 trades per season. Every trade recorded here sortable by Year and/or Team and links to every player card.
HFTC Trades

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

Finally, and this is one thing that not all leagues have - are incentives for article writing to improve your franchise. Some have it, but others don't. I find that when owners are given incentives, they write more articles and are generally more active in a league.

Sorry, don't have them. Silly gimmicks needed by leagues in order to attract and keep owners. Results in poor writing and poor articles that aren't worth crap. HFTC owners stay because we have the best GMs in OOTP. Our GMs write articles because they WANT to not because they are given silly incentives. Great articles like:

My fav series HFTC Inside the Numbers



And articles by one guy who is so good he should write for a living

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

A salary cap is also something I'd strongly prefer.

Got it. Also have a well thought out revenue sharing model that has been used since HFTC's inception that taxes the teams that spends the most money and gives to teams that earn the least amount of money. Also, capped money is given to teams that are below average markets and less.

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

I am basically looking to be in ONE OOTP league and devote my time to it. I would expect my future fellow owners to be the same, and would only want to join a league where it is a cut above the rest and where the owners treat that league as their main league and the commish holds updating the league site and doing sims as a priority.

Is a league like this out there?

HFTC is a mature league with mature owners. We've been around for almost three real time years with no resets no mulligans no commish changes. But don't take it from me take it from my GMs. Visit HFTC as ask the GMs what they think.

Here is a link that talks about our current opening in Philly.
Philly opening

Be sure to check out a lot of those stats/reports that are available to HFTC GMs. All stuff that would be available to you from work.

In addition, I recently added
Real Time Leaderboards
Real Time Milestones

[johnd24_42]

I should also probably mention that I'd like to savor the managing experience. I would prefer a three day per week sim and 7 or 8 calendar days simmed per sim.


I notice a lot of leagues do 15 sim days at a time, and that's pretty rapid for me.

Thanks to all so far who've posted here, I really appreciate the help. I really enjoy looking at all of your leagues, there are some fantastic ones.

[Recte44]

Monty Brewster Baseball Association

[Raderick]

The Home Plate Baseball League plans on using CATO beginning at the end of our first season and beyond. You want in-depth? Look in the dictionary and you'll see the HPBL is the definition. We strive on making this league anything but run-of-the-mill.

You want to know how committed I am to this league? Almost two weeks ago, our site was hacked into. Because at work, I don't have access to the Internet, several of my owners sent me instant messages on my computer (that I leave on). Once finding out, I immediately sent our an e-mail to the owners letting them know that the site was hacked into and everything will be up and running soon. Within one hour, everything was back up and running, and the sim, which was to take place the next day, was still on the schedule! One week later, our host shut down our server. Within the same day, I purchased a new account at a new web host, and had everything moved to the new account, and was back up and running, the same day. How I did this? I keep back-ups of our forums almost every day. Nothing was lost (except for past exports). We kept on going as if nothing had happened.

Our financial system is one of a kind. While we don't have a salary cap like you specified, we have a mix of systems tied into one that makes our league financially strong and unique.

I really think the HPBL has the best ownership base in any real player v6.5 online league. Many of our owners send in export every single sim. Not too many leagues can actually say that without having rules that force owners to send in exports every two or three sims or be released.

We don't have an incentive system for writing articles or posting trades. Like Dave said, it's all gimmick and it leads to poor quality articles and content.

If you have any questions or concerns, please let me know. I'm always open to discuss the league or anything you have to say. My e-mail address is raderick24@cox.net, or send me an AIM instant message at Raderick24.

[doug melvin]

CPL has two openings (Cubs and Orioles).

We started off as a historical sim, comp controlled, from 1903-2003. 1940 brought the ammy draft, 1960 brought free agency, and 1990 brought fictional players. In 2003, with the last of the historical players retiring, I started the league for real, with real ppl as owners. The reason was the impressive catobase lets us make meaningful historical comparisons.

I sim 5 times a week, and 5 days per sim. The league does encourage writing, and we get a small number of very, very high quality articles. We have a salary cap (70 mill!), and you get 70 mill to spend every year, no matter how your team does. Coupled with the limited ability to resign your own players, this means that FA is very vibrant, with MVP's being avail from time to time. This has had the adverse effect of suppressing trading, but has had the intended effect of limiting dynasties and reducing rebuilding times.

[johnd24_42]

Originally Posted by GBC Chairman

Monty Brewster Baseball Association

really, really nice league. i'm reading extensively on it now. thank you for the link!

[johnd24_42]

Originally Posted by Raderick

We don't have an incentive system for writing articles or posting trades. Like Dave said, it's all gimmick and it leads to poor quality articles and content.

couldn't disagree more, however that discussion is for another time. that's what i'm looking for, so that's the deal. if a league is good enough where it doesn't need participation points, then i'm all for it, obviously. so far, i've only seen about two leagues where this is the case. most other leagues have a nice smattering of activity, but nothing overwhelming, so they incentives to owners do help for activity.

that said, your website is really nice, but i couldn't find any access to your league forum?

[johnd24_42]

Originally Posted by doug melvin

CPL has two openings (Cubs and Orioles).

We started off as a historical sim, comp controlled, from 1903-2003. 1940 brought the ammy draft, 1960 brought free agency, and 1990 brought fictional players. In 2003, with the last of the historical players retiring, I started the league for real, with real ppl as owners. The reason was the impressive catobase lets us make meaningful historical comparisons.

I sim 5 times a week, and 5 days per sim. The league does encourage writing, and we get a small number of very, very high quality articles. We have a salary cap (70 mill!), and you get 70 mill to spend every year, no matter how your team does. Coupled with the limited ability to resign your own players, this means that FA is very vibrant, with MVP's being avail from time to time. This has had the adverse effect of suppressing trading, but has had the intended effect of limiting dynasties and reducing rebuilding times.

you have a fantastic league it looks like. i'd like to look it over more, but i'm really interested.

[Raderick]

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

couldn't disagree more, however that discussion is for another time. that's what i'm looking for, so that's the deal. if a league is good enough where it doesn't need participation points, then i'm all for it, obviously. so far, i've only seen about two leagues where this is the case. most other leagues have a nice smattering of activity, but nothing overwhelming, so they incentives to owners do help for activity.

that said, your website is really nice, but i couldn't find any access to your league forum?

The forum link is at the top along with everything else.

[johnd24_42]

Originally Posted by Raderick

The forum link is at the top along with everything else.

it didn't work when i clicked on it.

[Raderick]

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

it didn't work when i clicked on it.

Try now. I have no clue why it happened.

[doug melvin]

Just a note--- I haven't updated the catobase for the 2010 season yet because it takes almost 2 days to generate the HTML... will do that this coming weekend, when I don't need it for work.

[Recte44]

Originally Posted by johnd24_42

really, really nice league. i'm reading extensively on it now. thank you for the link!

Thanks a lot. We'd love to have you. Sorry, the servers have been messed up the last day or so but everything looks good to go now.

[Prodigal Son]

DaveHorn,

Any plans to move to v6.5?

[DaveHorn]

Originally Posted by Prodigal Son

DaveHorn,

Any plans to move to v6.5?

Nope, not currently. Nearly all my owners including myself belief strongly that OOTP5 > OOTP6.5. Not by a lot, but by enough that when weighed against everything else we choose OOTP5!

We are currently full. Always room on the waiting list.

Just lifted the curtain on our latest module.

HOF Voting

(those are not our HOF candidates, those are just hand picked players I used to test the code)