Rules to prevent "tanking"

chicoruiz · 10-10-2006, 08:20 AM

Anyone seen any clever ways to prevent GMs from "tanking" to improve their draft position for the following year? I'm in a league whose commish suspects that it's going on by more than one owner, and he's looking for ideas on how to stop it. I should mention that this is a historical league that uses no financials at all, so monetary stuff won't work.

He's considering a weighted draft lottery for nonplayoff teams in which the better a team was, the better chance it would have of a high pick. Any other ideas?

Jestre · 10-10-2006, 08:34 AM

The MLBC has kicked one owner out of the league in its 52 seasons of simming, that owner was kicked out for tanking. If I see a team using a suspicious lineup I email them a carefully worded warning. With the one exception mentioned previously I have never had to send a second warning. A big key though is careful screening of applicants, there is definite profiling a commish can use to weed out the high risk owners.

BleedingCubbyBlue · 10-10-2006, 09:32 AM

Make sure that all teams have 25 players on the active roster during the regular season, and they aren't leaving healthy players on he DL after recovery.

sporr · 10-10-2006, 09:37 AM

We have requirements for rosters in terms of positions and backups. This probably helps a little. We also have a tourney with non-playoff teams that we hope gives some incentive for teams to try a little harder.

treedom · 10-10-2006, 09:48 AM

Tasering works pretty well as a deterrent, I've found.

Chappy · 10-10-2006, 06:39 PM

Although 'tanking' isn't a problem in the NPBL, there has been a decrease in competitive balance over the years, leading to a league that now features good teams, bad teams, and little in between.

jeheinz72 and I had chatted about ways to alter the draft to encourage bad teams to strive to do better (an aside for npbl owners reading this; this won't be happening in our league

) without overly punishing the teams that are truly devoid of talent.

Anyhow, I'm curious to see if anyone had ever altered the draft order to reward bad teams that try hard to win...

Mosey · 10-10-2006, 10:19 PM

Problemis a lot of times the bad times are also bad GMs to begin with. They just don't know enough or pay attention enough or care enough. They might not grasp all the concepts.

One way to stop the top teams from bilking the bad ones is to not let them give up their top prospects. Stop letting them trade draft picks, make them keep drafted players two seasons (so they can see how good they will be). Say finish in last or next to last, or something.

10-10-2006, 08:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
chicoruiz Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 31 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Rules to prevent "tanking" Anyone seen any clever ways to prevent GMs from "tanking" to improve their draft position for the following year? I'm in a league whose commish suspects that it's going on by more than one owner, and he's looking for ideas on how to stop it. I should mention that this is a historical league that uses no financials at all, so monetary stuff won't work. He's considering a weighted draft lottery for nonplayoff teams in which the better a team was, the better chance it would have of a high pick. Any other ideas? Last edited by chicoruiz; 10-10-2006 at 08:26 AM.

10-10-2006, 08:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 546 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1x in 1 post	The MLBC has kicked one owner out of the league in its 52 seasons of simming, that owner was kicked out for tanking. If I see a team using a suspicious lineup I email them a carefully worded warning. With the one exception mentioned previously I have never had to send a second warning. A big key though is careful screening of applicants, there is definite profiling a commish can use to weed out the high risk owners. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers" MLBC

10-10-2006, 09:32 AM	#3 (permalink)
BleedingCubbyBlue All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Gurnee, IL Posts: 585 Thanks: 3 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Make sure that all teams have 25 players on the active roster during the regular season, and they aren't leaving healthy players on he DL after recovery. __________________ http://www.otbaonline.com

10-10-2006, 09:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35x in 2 posts	We have requirements for rosters in terms of positions and backups. This probably helps a little. We also have a tourney with non-playoff teams that we hope gives some incentive for teams to try a little harder. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

10-10-2006, 09:48 AM	#5 (permalink)
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,892 Thanks: 5 Thanked 7x in 5 posts	Tasering works pretty well as a deterrent, I've found. __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

10-10-2006, 06:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,642 Thanks: 4 Thanked 4x in 4 posts	Although 'tanking' isn't a problem in the NPBL, there has been a decrease in competitive balance over the years, leading to a league that now features good teams, bad teams, and little in between. jeheinz72 and I had chatted about ways to alter the draft to encourage bad teams to strive to do better (an aside for npbl owners reading this; this won't be happening in our league ) without overly punishing the teams that are truly devoid of talent. Anyhow, I'm curious to see if anyone had ever altered the draft order to reward bad teams that try hard to win... __________________ NPBL - Commissioner - Pennsylvania Freedom

10-10-2006, 10:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mosey Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 70 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Problemis a lot of times the bad times are also bad GMs to begin with. They just don't know enough or pay attention enough or care enough. They might not grasp all the concepts. One way to stop the top teams from bilking the bad ones is to not let them give up their top prospects. Stop letting them trade draft picks, make them keep drafted players two seasons (so they can see how good they will be). Say finish in last or next to last, or something.

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