OOTP 6.5 Intangibles, Clutch, Leader, Consistency....

sox1986 · 05-27-2008, 05:22 PM

Does anyone know where i could find info about how the intangible ootp ratings (consistency, clutch, leader) affect players and the game?

The reason I ask is that, when considering trades, I have no idea how to value a player appropriately who has positive or negative intangibles. Is a prospects development affected by them?

Simon_Nesbit · 05-28-2008, 11:09 PM

Loyalty will re-sign for less than market value/arbitration - more likely to accept demotion, happy to be depth player rather than starter.
Consistency will spend less time 'hot' or 'cold' - perform closer to ratings in the short term.
Clutch apparently helps in 1-run games, or late innings.

kq76 · 05-30-2008, 09:52 AM

I don't really think you'll find this info stated for sure anywhere, but here's my opinion:

-consistency, IMO, is huge for development, just compare the % of superstars who have good consistency with the % of prospects who have good consistency... I don't think this was the intention, though, I just think it was to be more of a is this guy streaky or not? why it would have this side-effect I'm not sure, but I am pretty sure it does exist... either way, you just might want to think of it as interviewing the kid and thinking he has a good level-headed psyche and therefore more likely to make it

-clutch, if it does have any effect at all, has very little IMO, so if a player has clutch ability, great, if not, I wouldn't downgrade him any

-leadership is supposedly to raise the ability of those around them, but like clutch, I wouldn't really be too concerned with it, I think it's more to just add flavour

If you want the OOTP6 manual (or any manual for OOTP3 and above), give me your email address and I'll email it to you. They don't really say anything about intangibles more than define them, but you might want them anyway.

I'm tempted to move this thread to general discussions, but I think the question is maybe more important to online leaguers (many of them take advantage of this knowledge whereas the AI doesn't), so I'll leave it here for now.

05-27-2008, 05:22 PM	#1 (permalink)
sox1986 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1	OOTP 6.5 Intangibles, Clutch, Leader, Consistency.... Does anyone know where i could find info about how the intangible ootp ratings (consistency, clutch, leader) affect players and the game? The reason I ask is that, when considering trades, I have no idea how to value a player appropriately who has positive or negative intangibles. Is a prospects development affected by them?

05-30-2008, 09:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
kq76 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,438	I don't really think you'll find this info stated for sure anywhere, but here's my opinion: -consistency, IMO, is huge for development, just compare the % of superstars who have good consistency with the % of prospects who have good consistency... I don't think this was the intention, though, I just think it was to be more of a is this guy streaky or not? why it would have this side-effect I'm not sure, but I am pretty sure it does exist... either way, you just might want to think of it as interviewing the kid and thinking he has a good level-headed psyche and therefore more likely to make it -clutch, if it does have any effect at all, has very little IMO, so if a player has clutch ability, great, if not, I wouldn't downgrade him any -leadership is supposedly to raise the ability of those around them, but like clutch, I wouldn't really be too concerned with it, I think it's more to just add flavour If you want the OOTP6 manual (or any manual for OOTP3 and above), give me your email address and I'll email it to you. They don't really say anything about intangibles more than define them, but you might want them anyway. I'm tempted to move this thread to general discussions, but I think the question is maybe more important to online leaguers (many of them take advantage of this knowledge whereas the AI doesn't), so I'll leave it here for now. __________________ Online League Boards Moderator The avatar is of Pink. People like to tease me for being a fan of hers, but I'm cool with it. Interactive Online League Directory - find or advertise a league today! (now OOTP9 compatible, thanks for the space jazzrack!) Canadian Baseball League - a recent OOTP9 convert, but running steadily since April 2002 SGCBL - a Lord of the Rings themed league with a very friendly membership and a commish constantly looking to improve the smallest of things

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05-28-2008, 11:09 PM	#2 (permalink)
Simon_Nesbit Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 183	Loyalty will re-sign for less than market value/arbitration - more likely to accept demotion, happy to be depth player rather than starter. Consistency will spend less time 'hot' or 'cold' - perform closer to ratings in the short term. Clutch apparently helps in 1-run games, or late innings.