!! New OOTP5 League !!

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 07:41 AM

The WSBL is starting up. A 30 team league using real rosters, and real minor league rosters. The league is a draft. We are in need of Owners with OOTP5 ID's because there only a few spots left and we are still short with ID's. The league is looking for the most active GM's around. If your interested email me @ njtusso@yahoo.com

WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/simleague04/wsbl.htm

IM: Tusso4

Old Man · 03-11-2003, 08:22 AM

I would suggest people be careful handing out ID's to this league. It's leadership has a checkered past. If you can handle a commish that has multiple names, Aim names, and email's address: this may be the league for you. But it is not high on honesty or respect for GM's. Here are some interesting links:

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=26726

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=26445

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=25145

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=24975

http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=24462

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 08:25 AM

Haha Old Man got to cause trouble eh? Cant just midn you own business. Didnt your mamma ever teach you that if you dont got nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all. Do you enjoy looking up previous posts that I wrote? get a life man. No one asked you to join so dont go starting trouble that you know nothing about.

Old Man · 03-11-2003, 08:27 AM

This post was made by an administrator of this board and needs to be reposted here. Hope this is ok to post again Scott.

Scott Vibert
Administrator

Registered: Dec 2001
Location: My Computer
Posts: 6733

quote:
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Originally posted by Dwolfson20
Responding to the person who asked about the IP logs: yes, the moderators can see them, but no, they probably won't "officially" tell us anything about what they find.
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Yes I can see the IP Logs, I can even see a handy list of every IP and server you've ever used on the board (a good way to cross reference aliases ).

You are also correct that our policy is to avoid being the board policy and to publicly "out" aliases barring extenuating circumstances. There are lots of people in this forum that have more than one alias, it wouldn't be fair to reveal one, without revealing the others and quite frankly I don't have the time to double check and cross reference everyone of our 4750 or so members to come up with a partially complete list of aliases (or suspected aliases). If there is something that warrants "outing" an alias publicly it will be done, but only under extenuating circumstances.

In this case the thread's starter is not technically doing anything wrong... he's trying to start a league. But the other contributors are not doing anything wrong in pointing out inconsistences in his story, and/or similarities to other members that may have a bit of a checkered past. That said, should this thread go too far off topic it will be moved or closed (like other threads in this forum).

For all prospective owners you need to be VERY cautious when turning over your Order IDs, if you have reason not to trust the commish then you should hold onto your ID until he builds that trust. In fact if you can not trust the commish, then you really should not join the league. Commishes who've caused problems in the past may not even get approved to join the OOTP server.

For all prospective commishes. If you really have no online league experience then I would STRONGLY advise you to actually participate in a league as an owner before trying to commish your first league. You are much more likely to be successful after you have some experience and an understanding of how online leagues function, and what does and does not work in keeping a league together.

__________________
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OOL - West Virginia Deliverance-2003 - 2005 UL East Champs
2004 United League Champs
2004 OOL Champions

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 08:30 AM

Theres no point in that post. The post I wrote was to ask GM's to join the league, it would be a plus if you had the game because we are almost becoming full and still short GM's. I have online sim expierence and know what Im doing. Stop casuing trouble when there is nothing there to cause trouble about. It was a harmless post asking for GM's

Wildcard88 · 03-11-2003, 08:32 AM

Quote:

Commishes who've caused problems in the past may not even get approved to join the OOTP server.

That's the key quote.

Just because the owners give over their ID's does not mean that a league will get approved.

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 08:33 AM

Did I ever say I would get approved? I probably wont. Dont put words in my mouth. I never said I would be approved.

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 08:34 AM

Also, if you think im JLBAZE or whoever you think I am. Im asking Steve or one of the admins. to check the IP addys and tell everyone thr truth to tell everyone we are not the same people.

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 08:36 AM

You guys all have to go and start truble because of a harmless post asking for GM's to check out the site and see if there interested. Your making trouble out of a harmless thing.

JL47_DB55 · 03-11-2003, 08:40 AM

Would you guys please stop harassing these people? I am pretty sure that everytime someone posts something you dont have to inform people everytime, lets keep these forums clean.

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 08:40 AM

Thank you JL47.

JL47_DB55 · 03-11-2003, 08:44 AM

It just gets annoying that's all.

Total Nirvana · 03-11-2003, 10:08 AM

other, explain

John C · 03-11-2003, 01:38 PM

Wasn't the thread about "getting other GMs" asking them to "donate" their second ID so you could get space on the OOTP server?

I'm just curious.

-John

Dagrims · 03-11-2003, 02:34 PM

Old Man, thanks for posting those threads. This is like one of those 'Two-Minute Mysteries' that I read as a kid...except a little easier to solve.

Chris

Hammer755 · 03-11-2003, 02:55 PM

You would think that when you directly rip a league's website design, you would at least break the link to their league file. But, then I guess you'd think wrong.

Dagrims · 03-11-2003, 03:06 PM

Hey, other than the link to the USBA's league file, only the Team Reports, Sim Schedule, Team of the Week, and Players of the Week sections are identical. Most likely a coincidence.

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 03:09 PM

Of course there identical, none of the links work. I copyed them all and just renamed them. But maybe thats a coincidence right? The first post was at 7:45 this morning and you guys have no life your still posting about it. Damn get a life, it doesnt concern you, if you dont want to join then you dont gotta post a million messages when you have no idea what your talking about.

spleen1015 · 03-11-2003, 03:12 PM

Don't get mad at folks for pointing out that you're a damned cheater. It's our duty as members of this community to inform people of your wrong doing. If you don't like that, then quit bloody freakin' cheating!

Tusso · 03-11-2003, 03:13 PM

Cheating? Where am I cheating? Point that out for me. You dont know anything about me other then Im trying to get GM's. You really think by posting these messages I wont make a league and get people? Think again

03-11-2003, 07:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	!! New OOTP5 League !! The WSBL is starting up. A 30 team league using real rosters, and real minor league rosters. The league is a draft. We are in need of Owners with OOTP5 ID's because there only a few spots left and we are still short with ID's. The league is looking for the most active GM's around. If your interested email me @ njtusso@yahoo.com WEBSITE: http://www.geocities.com/simleague04/wsbl.htm IM: Tusso4

03-11-2003, 08:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
Old Man Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 464 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I would suggest people be careful handing out ID's to this league. It's leadership has a checkered past. If you can handle a commish that has multiple names, Aim names, and email's address: this may be the league for you. But it is not high on honesty or respect for GM's. Here are some interesting links: http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=26726 http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=26445 http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=25145 http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=24975 http://www.400softwarestudios.com/bo...threadid=24462 __________________ Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983 "All the fat guys watch me and say to their wives, 'See, there's a fat guy doing okay. Bring me another beer.'" -Mickey Lolich

03-11-2003, 08:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
Old Man Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 464 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	This post was made by an administrator of this board and needs to be reposted here. Hope this is ok to post again Scott. Scott Vibert Administrator Registered: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 6733 quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally posted by Dwolfson20 Responding to the person who asked about the IP logs: yes, the moderators can see them, but no, they probably won't "officially" tell us anything about what they find. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Yes I can see the IP Logs, I can even see a handy list of every IP and server you've ever used on the board (a good way to cross reference aliases ). You are also correct that our policy is to avoid being the board policy and to publicly "out" aliases barring extenuating circumstances. There are lots of people in this forum that have more than one alias, it wouldn't be fair to reveal one, without revealing the others and quite frankly I don't have the time to double check and cross reference everyone of our 4750 or so members to come up with a partially complete list of aliases (or suspected aliases). If there is something that warrants "outing" an alias publicly it will be done, but only under extenuating circumstances. In this case the thread's starter is not technically doing anything wrong... he's trying to start a league. But the other contributors are not doing anything wrong in pointing out inconsistences in his story, and/or similarities to other members that may have a bit of a checkered past. That said, should this thread go too far off topic it will be moved or closed (like other threads in this forum). For all prospective owners you need to be VERY cautious when turning over your Order IDs, if you have reason not to trust the commish then you should hold onto your ID until he builds that trust. In fact if you can not trust the commish, then you really should not join the league. Commishes who've caused problems in the past may not even get approved to join the OOTP server. For all prospective commishes. If you really have no online league experience then I would STRONGLY advise you to actually participate in a league as an owner before trying to commish your first league. You are much more likely to be successful after you have some experience and an understanding of how online leagues function, and what does and does not work in keeping a league together. __________________ Boys of Summer - Boston Pilgrims OOL - West Virginia Deliverance-2003 - 2005 UL East Champs 2004 United League Champs 2004 OOL Champions __________________ Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983 "All the fat guys watch me and say to their wives, 'See, there's a fat guy doing okay. Bring me another beer.'" -Mickey Lolich

03-11-2003, 10:08 AM	#13 (permalink)
Total Nirvana All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: San Diego, California Posts: 750 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	other, explain __________________ Total Hockey Commissioner Your Off-Topic Nightmare. Free Agent OT Player - Plays 1B/3B/OF, hits for power on all fields, great fielder, can hit .330 a season!

03-11-2003, 01:38 PM	#14 (permalink)
John C All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CT Shoreline Posts: 1,729 Thanks: 50 Thanked 63x in 41 posts Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Wasn't the thread about "getting other GMs" asking them to "donate" their second ID so you could get space on the OOTP server? I'm just curious. -John __________________ Facebook \| My Videos The Baseball Association (redux): Coming soon....

03-11-2003, 08:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Haha Old Man got to cause trouble eh? Cant just midn you own business. Didnt your mamma ever teach you that if you dont got nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all. Do you enjoy looking up previous posts that I wrote? get a life man. No one asked you to join so dont go starting trouble that you know nothing about.

03-11-2003, 08:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Theres no point in that post. The post I wrote was to ask GM's to join the league, it would be a plus if you had the game because we are almost becoming full and still short GM's. I have online sim expierence and know what Im doing. Stop casuing trouble when there is nothing there to cause trouble about. It was a harmless post asking for GM's

03-11-2003, 08:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Did I ever say I would get approved? I probably wont. Dont put words in my mouth. I never said I would be approved.

03-11-2003, 08:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Also, if you think im JLBAZE or whoever you think I am. Im asking Steve or one of the admins. to check the IP addys and tell everyone thr truth to tell everyone we are not the same people.

03-11-2003, 08:36 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	You guys all have to go and start truble because of a harmless post asking for GM's to check out the site and see if there interested. Your making trouble out of a harmless thing.

03-11-2003, 08:40 AM	#10 (permalink)
JL47_DB55 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Would you guys please stop harassing these people? I am pretty sure that everytime someone posts something you dont have to inform people everytime, lets keep these forums clean.

03-11-2003, 08:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Thank you JL47.

03-11-2003, 08:44 AM	#12 (permalink)
JL47_DB55 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	It just gets annoying that's all.

03-11-2003, 02:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,829 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 1 post	Old Man, thanks for posting those threads. This is like one of those 'Two-Minute Mysteries' that I read as a kid...except a little easier to solve. Chris

03-11-2003, 02:55 PM	#16 (permalink)
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Warnings: 11 Posts: 2,345 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	You would think that when you directly rip a league's website design, you would at least break the link to their league file. But, then I guess you'd think wrong. __________________ Last edited by Hammer755; 03-11-2003 at 02:58 PM.

03-11-2003, 03:06 PM	#17 (permalink)
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,829 Thanks: 0 Thanked 6x in 1 post	Hey, other than the link to the USBA's league file, only the Team Reports, Sim Schedule, Team of the Week, and Players of the Week sections are identical. Most likely a coincidence.

03-11-2003, 03:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Of course there identical, none of the links work. I copyed them all and just renamed them. But maybe thats a coincidence right? The first post was at 7:45 this morning and you guys have no life your still posting about it. Damn get a life, it doesnt concern you, if you dont want to join then you dont gotta post a million messages when you have no idea what your talking about.

03-11-2003, 03:12 PM	#19 (permalink)
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 61 Thanked 132x in 78 posts	Don't get mad at folks for pointing out that you're a damned cheater. It's our duty as members of this community to inform people of your wrong doing. If you don't like that, then quit bloody freakin' cheating! __________________ GM Indianapolis 500s- Classic Baseball Union The American Baseball Congress - a fictional/historical league dynasty currently in 1871

03-11-2003, 03:13 PM	#20 (permalink)
Tusso Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 124 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Cheating? Where am I cheating? Point that out for me. You dont know anything about me other then Im trying to get GM's. You really think by posting these messages I wont make a league and get people? Think again

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