Mfitterer1 Apologizes

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 04:14 PM

I apologize for some of the things that i have recently said in these forums, I have known that I havent been acting to my maturity level but this was done intentionally. I am willing to act my normal self in these threads and when I talk to any of you if you will stop harrassing me when Ipost for a league opening or whenever I post a comment in a thread. Thats all I ask for, and I will be my normal self, if you guys can just fufill that then I know I will be fine and none of these threads or personal bashings will happen again. You can use this post to hold me to my word.

All I want is a 2nd chance, please accept my apology and let me be treated like a normal person again.

MTXperience · 10-29-2003, 04:19 PM

I'm certainly willing to "stand down"... but I still STRONGLY believe that any prospective GMs in your league should know about your checkered past... and as such... should be given an ey215-like disclaimer.

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 04:22 PM

They dont need a disclaimer as I am not the head commish, BigWillis is the one running sims and everything, so I am not running the league.

CommishJoe · 10-29-2003, 04:36 PM

Still, ya gotta expect it. Some members went overboard lately, that's for sure. However, new owners should know about your history so they know what they are getting themselves into. It's part of the "rehabilitation process".

An ey-215 like disclaimer is definately not the worst thing in the world, judging from what's been going on lately.

sporr · 10-29-2003, 04:43 PM

Just like the registered sex-offender list

As CommishJoe said, it's all about accountability and the rehabilitation process.

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 04:47 PM

Thats fine and dandy but I dont care what has to happen to stop getting harrassed around here, thats all that I ask for

clarnzz · 10-29-2003, 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
Thats fine and dandy but I dont care what has to happen to stop getting harrassed around here, thats all that I ask for

Your loving every second of this, and don't think you could convince anyone otherwise.

mfitterer1 · 10-29-2003, 10:55 PM

I guess only a couple people are going to forgive me

twins15 · 10-29-2003, 11:01 PM

I forgive you.

dougk62 · 10-29-2003, 11:55 PM

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Originally posted by mfitterer1
I guess only a couple people are going to forgive me

I forgive you, but it sure would mean alot more if we could hug now so we could feel each others sincerity.

mfitterer1 · 10-30-2003, 12:15 AM

wow there man that might be a little too much for my liking, I am not willing to go that far for forgiveness.

holyroller · 10-30-2003, 12:55 AM

What are we forgiving you for?

For acting immaturely in response to "harassment"?

In that case, sure, no sweat. However, that doesn't mean that this is going to go away. As several people have no doubt told you by now, the only way people will leave you alone is if you come clean. Admit that you cheated, be sincere and contrite, and this all goes away. You will still be watched very closely, closer than your regular Joe, but you will not be harassed anymore by anyone. Until that happens, this will never, ever, stop unless you stop posting here altogether.

I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but basically those are your two choices. Leave or admit you cheated. Well, I guess the third option is to continue trying to get people to leave you alone without admitting it, but I promise you, nothing will change.

Skipaway · 10-30-2003, 02:09 AM

I don't think you mean people would leve mfitterer1 alone for anything. Taunting is always fun. It's just holyroller's plot to get a confession out of him.

I don't think the choice is between leaving and admitting something. It's between ignoring the "harassment" or starting a new alias. Admitting he cheated would be a nice gesture, but not much more than that.

holyroller · 10-30-2003, 07:52 AM

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Originally posted by Skipaway
I don't think you mean people would leve mfitterer1 alone for anything. Taunting is always fun. It's just holyroller's plot to get a confession out of him.

I don't think the choice is between leaving and admitting something. It's between ignoring the "harassment" or starting a new alias. Admitting he cheated would be a nice gesture, but not much more than that.

1. I have not taunted mfitterer1 and, in fact, we talked recently by IM about me joining his league. In the end I decided that I could not trust him.

2. You may be on to something with me just trying to get a confession. I'm a little tired, as are many people, with the on-going mfitterer show here but I don't think it is going away anytime soon. Him admitting his guilt would be the best solution for all involved, IMO.

I think the evidence clearly indicates that he did cheat in the past. If he does not admit it, no one will ever believe anything he says and people will, as you say taunt him for fun. If he does admit it, I don't think it would be just "a nice gesture", I think people would stop seeing everything he said as just self-serving bs. YMMV.

Skipaway · 10-30-2003, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by holyroller
1. I have not taunted mfitterer1 and, in fact, we talked recently by IM about me joining his league. In the end I decided that I could not trust him.

2. You may be on to something with me just trying to get a confession. I'm a little tired, as are many people, with the on-going mfitterer show here but I don't think it is going away anytime soon. Him admitting his guilt would be the best solution for all involved, IMO.

I think the evidence clearly indicates that he did cheat in the past. If he does not admit it, no one will ever believe anything he says and people will, as you say taunt him for fun. If he does admit it, I don't think it would be just "a nice gesture", I think people would stop seeing everything he said as just self-serving bs. YMMV.

Some people nice like you would treat him better, while some others would just be given more material to taunt him.

There is absolutely no way for him to be avoid the "cheater" label, admitting or not, being nice or childish. That's why I think his only choices are switch identity or just ignore others.

Personally I don't believing admitting a crime would help to prevent people from committing it again. Being discovered itself is more powerful.

spleen1015 · 10-30-2003, 01:09 PM

His rank/title/whatever it is called should be changed to 'Cheater'.

I would like to see him admit that he has cheated, as well.

I agree with HR.

Skipaway · 10-30-2003, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spleen1015
His rank/title/whatever it is called should be changed to 'Cheater'.

I would like to see him admit that he has cheated, as well.

I agree with HR.

You sure you'd leave him alone after that?

I know nobody can resist some car wash once in awhile.

mfitterer1 · 10-30-2003, 04:06 PM

Thats the stuff that i am sick of, and no i didnt cheat and therefore will not admit to cheating,t hats against my morals to take the fall for something just to make something easier. And if i did say i apologized for cheating peopel would just say that i said it to get them off of my back, but it doesnt really matter, I guess all that can be done is that my league gets ran cleanly and goes on to be successful and then people will shut their mouths, thats all I am hoping for.

spleen1015 · 10-30-2003, 07:40 PM

Okay, Pete.

This is my last post about you, buddy. Good luck with your league.

Cooleyvol · 10-30-2003, 07:49 PM

Who cares anymore?

Geesh!

10-29-2003, 04:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Mfitterer1 Apologizes I apologize for some of the things that i have recently said in these forums, I have known that I havent been acting to my maturity level but this was done intentionally. I am willing to act my normal self in these threads and when I talk to any of you if you will stop harrassing me when Ipost for a league opening or whenever I post a comment in a thread. Thats all I ask for, and I will be my normal self, if you guys can just fufill that then I know I will be fine and none of these threads or personal bashings will happen again. You can use this post to hold me to my word. All I want is a 2nd chance, please accept my apology and let me be treated like a normal person again.

10-29-2003, 04:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,009 Thanks: 30 Thanked 69x in 40 posts	Still, ya gotta expect it. Some members went overboard lately, that's for sure. However, new owners should know about your history so they know what they are getting themselves into. It's part of the "rehabilitation process". An ey-215 like disclaimer is definately not the worst thing in the world, judging from what's been going on lately. __________________ Joe Question to fiance -- How much do you love me? Answer -- So much that we can get our legs tied together, walking 3 legged for the rest of our lives and I'd love it.

10-29-2003, 04:43 PM	#5 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35x in 2 posts	Just like the registered sex-offender list As CommishJoe said, it's all about accountability and the rehabilitation process. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

10-29-2003, 11:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I forgive you. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

10-30-2003, 12:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	What are we forgiving you for? For acting immaturely in response to "harassment"? In that case, sure, no sweat. However, that doesn't mean that this is going to go away. As several people have no doubt told you by now, the only way people will leave you alone is if you come clean. Admit that you cheated, be sincere and contrite, and this all goes away. You will still be watched very closely, closer than your regular Joe, but you will not be harassed anymore by anyone. Until that happens, this will never, ever, stop unless you stop posting here altogether. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but basically those are your two choices. Leave or admit you cheated. Well, I guess the third option is to continue trying to get people to leave you alone without admitting it, but I promise you, nothing will change. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

10-29-2003, 04:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
MTXperience Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 372 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I'm certainly willing to "stand down"... but I still STRONGLY believe that any prospective GMs in your league should know about your checkered past... and as such... should be given an ey215-like disclaimer.

10-29-2003, 04:22 PM	#3 (permalink)
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	They dont need a disclaimer as I am not the head commish, BigWillis is the one running sims and everything, so I am not running the league.

10-29-2003, 04:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Thats fine and dandy but I dont care what has to happen to stop getting harrassed around here, thats all that I ask for

10-29-2003, 10:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	I guess only a couple people are going to forgive me

10-30-2003, 12:15 AM	#11 (permalink)
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	wow there man that might be a little too much for my liking, I am not willing to go that far for forgiveness.

10-30-2003, 02:09 AM	#13 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,453 Thanks: 2 Thanked 49x in 40 posts	I don't think you mean people would leve mfitterer1 alone for anything. Taunting is always fun. It's just holyroller's plot to get a confession out of him. I don't think the choice is between leaving and admitting something. It's between ignoring the "harassment" or starting a new alias. Admitting he cheated would be a nice gesture, but not much more than that. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

10-30-2003, 01:09 PM	#16 (permalink)
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 61 Thanked 132x in 78 posts	His rank/title/whatever it is called should be changed to 'Cheater'. I would like to see him admit that he has cheated, as well. I agree with HR. __________________ GM Indianapolis 500s- Classic Baseball Union The American Baseball Congress - a fictional/historical league dynasty currently in 1871

10-30-2003, 04:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Thats the stuff that i am sick of, and no i didnt cheat and therefore will not admit to cheating,t hats against my morals to take the fall for something just to make something easier. And if i did say i apologized for cheating peopel would just say that i said it to get them off of my back, but it doesnt really matter, I guess all that can be done is that my league gets ran cleanly and goes on to be successful and then people will shut their mouths, thats all I am hoping for.

10-30-2003, 07:40 PM	#19 (permalink)
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 5,193 Thanks: 61 Thanked 132x in 78 posts	Okay, Pete. This is my last post about you, buddy. Good luck with your league. __________________ GM Indianapolis 500s- Classic Baseball Union The American Baseball Congress - a fictional/historical league dynasty currently in 1871

10-30-2003, 07:49 PM	#20 (permalink)
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Woodland Mills, TN Posts: 5,993 Thanks: 57 Thanked 506x in 304 posts	Who cares anymore? Geesh! __________________

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