Is this possible with IP addresses?

UD411Flyer · 01-25-2004, 04:41 AM

I'm all about league security, and well, I did some searching on IP's for all the teams that have posted so far on my forums. This is what I have come up with:

Team A
Team B
Team C

These 3 teams have shown that they have posted from 5 differen't IP addresses. The interesting thing is...all 5 IP's are differen't, but each team has the same differen't 5.

Then I look at Team C and they have 2 differen't IP addresses. The first checks out fine, but their second IP matches 1 of the 5 IP's that were listed above.

When I say IP addresses, I mean the #'s...like 287.37.297.278(random #'s)

If you would like to know these guys teams so you can shed some light on them if you've dealt with them, get ahold of me please.

I would like to know if this is possible, or what is the deal with that?

UD411Flyer · 01-25-2004, 04:42 AM

Update, when questioning one of the teams he said he was suprised at me questioning him about IP's and he's been around too long and it's the first he's ever been questioned. BTW- He feels it's best we part on "mutual" ways.

TheSpiceOfLife · 01-25-2004, 05:05 AM

He is prolly still running one of the other teams still. I think the whole thing is very very fishy.

Kool A · 01-25-2004, 05:25 AM

Updated again. I am the individual that he is refering to. As I told him when he question me I really do not have an answer to that question. For the record the teams in question were my team which was San Diego, San Francisco and Oakland.

Now if anyone has an answer to this please do let me know, as I am not a expert in the area of IP addresses. My name is Angel Perez and my screen name is Kool A138.

Angel Perez

Aussie Mark · 01-25-2004, 05:46 AM

If the 3 owners are with AOL (scary thought, 3 in one league), it is possible they could have the same IP address.

Cuss16 · 01-25-2004, 06:10 AM

it is known AOL tends to screw up the IP's.

HolyCow98 · 01-25-2004, 06:17 AM

That actually has happened to me....

Ironically on Cuss16's GFBL. I signed up via Forum to have my namesake be added to the player pool...ect..ect...someone I believe either that night or the next day (not really sure)...signed up and it showed up as the same IP as mine did.....I'm guessing that we were both AOL users....anyway...it can happen....

SirOrion · 01-25-2004, 06:58 AM

Yup, AOL is cheap so they re-use and force others to use the same IP address. This can cause many problems for many things, mainly online games that allow only 1 account per IP address. So if you've got AOL, there is your answer. If you don't have AOL, then I think you need put a secure password onto your Wireless Cable (if you use it) because it sounds like some of your neighbors are leeching off your cable.

Of course, that's just the conspiracy theorist in me speaking...

John C · 01-25-2004, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kool A
Updated again. I am the individual that he is refering to. As I told him when he question me I really do not have an answer to that question. For the record the teams in question were my team which was San Diego, San Francisco and Oakland.

Now if anyone has an answer to this please do let me know, as I am not a expert in the area of IP addresses. My name is Angel Perez and my screen name is Kool A138.

Angel Perez

I don't really have an answer, but can vouch for Angel as being on the level, as far as being an owner goes. He's competitive, active, and above all, honest. He was held with VERY high regard in the iMLB, and he's someone I'd choose as an owner...if I advertised my leagues, like my new football league coming up.

Anyway, this is still a very touchy subject, and tough for the owner of the league to do, either way. It's a lose-lose situation, so the only thing I could say, and I think the commish learned the hard way, is...don't do anything until you're absolutely sure, either way.

UD411Flyer · 01-25-2004, 11:08 AM

All I did was ask him about it. Never pointed the finger or anything, because I didn't know 100% how the IP's work.

sbasseyn · 01-25-2004, 11:29 AM

I am the Oakland A's GM and have no ties at all to the accused. We are completely different people and dont even know each other. I do not know how the IP addresses got messed up nor am I an expert on IP addresses but all i wish to say is that the accused owner is innocent and in the league i was in with him before, he was held in the highest regard.

John C · 01-25-2004, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UD411Flyer
All I did was ask him about it. Never pointed the finger or anything, because I didn't know 100% how the IP's work.

...which is why you don't bring it up until you do. I would never accuse my owners of anything until I had certain proof.

I know you had a decision you felt you had to make...but surely there was no timetable on it. Now you've lost a very good owner, and it was because you weren't even sure about how IPs work.

This is a valuable lesson to anyone who wants to be a commish. I don't want to fault this guy for anything, other than jumping the gun too quickly. But not doing that is of utmost importance to the league's stability.

gpm22 · 01-25-2004, 12:37 PM

I can also vouch for Angel. He's a classy guy. It has to be an issue with AOL.

UD411Flyer · 01-25-2004, 02:42 PM

I've made a mistake as an commissioner, it's part of the process. I apologise, and I probably did handle it the wrong way, but there's no fixing it. You just have to learn from your mistakes.

Again, my apologies.

asamford · 01-25-2004, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
He is prolly still running one of the other teams still. I think the whole thing is very very fishy.

you would certainly be an expert on these matters!

Keith Stuart · 01-25-2004, 05:28 PM

I would also like to vouch for Angel. I'm in two leagues with him and I have the utmost respect for him as a league member.

UD411Flyer · 01-25-2004, 06:26 PM

I again apologise, I talked to Angel and we are on good terms. I did this the wrong way, but now I can only move on an learn from my mistakes. Angel indeed is a good guy, I HATE AOL!!!!

satchel · 01-25-2004, 09:26 PM

The questioner named no one, and both sides gave their points of view. Had I been the questioned owner, I wouldn’t have immediately quit the league, since the Commish was only investigating.

truthserum · 01-25-2004, 11:31 PM

I can vouch for Angel....but his patience has been on a short leash lately.

What's wrong buddy?

Jestre · 01-26-2004, 07:15 AM

Hang in there ud411, you didn't make a mistake if you didn't accuse him. At worst you just made a hasty decision based on insufficient facts. Those berating you for what you did is more judgmental than what you did.

01-25-2004, 04:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
UD411Flyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 583 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Is this possible with IP addresses? I'm all about league security, and well, I did some searching on IP's for all the teams that have posted so far on my forums. This is what I have come up with: Team A Team B Team C These 3 teams have shown that they have posted from 5 differen't IP addresses. The interesting thing is...all 5 IP's are differen't, but each team has the same differen't 5. Then I look at Team C and they have 2 differen't IP addresses. The first checks out fine, but their second IP matches 1 of the 5 IP's that were listed above. When I say IP addresses, I mean the #'s...like 287.37.297.278(random #'s) If you would like to know these guys teams so you can shed some light on them if you've dealt with them, get ahold of me please. I would like to know if this is possible, or what is the deal with that? __________________ Behind The Pl8-Chicago Cubs/Commissioner EIBL-Atlanta Braves/Commissioner NOBSL-Tampa Bay Devil Rays AAA-Sacranton-WB Red Barons ATGC-Orrville Red Riders Last edited by UD411Flyer; 01-25-2004 at 04:45 AM.

01-25-2004, 04:42 AM	#2 (permalink)
UD411Flyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 583 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Update, when questioning one of the teams he said he was suprised at me questioning him about IP's and he's been around too long and it's the first he's ever been questioned. BTW- He feels it's best we part on "mutual" ways. __________________ Behind The Pl8-Chicago Cubs/Commissioner EIBL-Atlanta Braves/Commissioner NOBSL-Tampa Bay Devil Rays AAA-Sacranton-WB Red Barons ATGC-Orrville Red Riders

01-25-2004, 05:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Aussie Mark Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downunder Posts: 489 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	If the 3 owners are with AOL (scary thought, 3 in one league), it is possible they could have the same IP address. __________________ Cheers Mark

01-25-2004, 06:10 AM	#6 (permalink)
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	it is known AOL tends to screw up the IP's. __________________

01-25-2004, 06:58 AM	#8 (permalink)
SirOrion Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Portland, Oregon, USA Posts: 263 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Yup, AOL is cheap so they re-use and force others to use the same IP address. This can cause many problems for many things, mainly online games that allow only 1 account per IP address. So if you've got AOL, there is your answer. If you don't have AOL, then I think you need put a secure password onto your Wireless Cable (if you use it) because it sounds like some of your neighbors are leeching off your cable. Of course, that's just the conspiracy theorist in me speaking... __________________ I'm not cool enough to have a signature.

01-25-2004, 05:05 AM	#3 (permalink)
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	He is prolly still running one of the other teams still. I think the whole thing is very very fishy.

01-25-2004, 05:25 AM	#4 (permalink)
Kool A Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: NYC Posts: 42 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Updated again. I am the individual that he is refering to. As I told him when he question me I really do not have an answer to that question. For the record the teams in question were my team which was San Diego, San Francisco and Oakland. Now if anyone has an answer to this please do let me know, as I am not a expert in the area of IP addresses. My name is Angel Perez and my screen name is Kool A138. Angel Perez

01-25-2004, 06:17 AM	#7 (permalink)
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,603 Thanks: 6 Thanked 1x in 1 post	That actually has happened to me.... Ironically on Cuss16's GFBL. I signed up via Forum to have my namesake be added to the player pool...ect..ect...someone I believe either that night or the next day (not really sure)...signed up and it showed up as the same IP as mine did.....I'm guessing that we were both AOL users....anyway...it can happen....

01-25-2004, 11:08 AM	#10 (permalink)
UD411Flyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 583 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	All I did was ask him about it. Never pointed the finger or anything, because I didn't know 100% how the IP's work. __________________ Behind The Pl8-Chicago Cubs/Commissioner EIBL-Atlanta Braves/Commissioner NOBSL-Tampa Bay Devil Rays AAA-Sacranton-WB Red Barons ATGC-Orrville Red Riders

01-25-2004, 11:29 AM	#11 (permalink)
sbasseyn Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 36 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I am the Oakland A's GM and have no ties at all to the accused. We are completely different people and dont even know each other. I do not know how the IP addresses got messed up nor am I an expert on IP addresses but all i wish to say is that the accused owner is innocent and in the league i was in with him before, he was held in the highest regard.

01-25-2004, 12:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
gpm22 Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York Posts: 488 Thanks: 5 Thanked 3x in 2 posts	I can also vouch for Angel. He's a classy guy. It has to be an issue with AOL.

01-25-2004, 02:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
UD411Flyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 583 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I've made a mistake as an commissioner, it's part of the process. I apologise, and I probably did handle it the wrong way, but there's no fixing it. You just have to learn from your mistakes. Again, my apologies. __________________ Behind The Pl8-Chicago Cubs/Commissioner EIBL-Atlanta Braves/Commissioner NOBSL-Tampa Bay Devil Rays AAA-Sacranton-WB Red Barons ATGC-Orrville Red Riders

01-25-2004, 05:28 PM	#16 (permalink)
Keith Stuart Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Chelmsford, MA Posts: 175 Thanks: 1 Thanked 3x in 3 posts	I would also like to vouch for Angel. I'm in two leagues with him and I have the utmost respect for him as a league member.

01-25-2004, 06:26 PM	#17 (permalink)
UD411Flyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 583 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I again apologise, I talked to Angel and we are on good terms. I did this the wrong way, but now I can only move on an learn from my mistakes. Angel indeed is a good guy, I HATE AOL!!!! __________________ Behind The Pl8-Chicago Cubs/Commissioner EIBL-Atlanta Braves/Commissioner NOBSL-Tampa Bay Devil Rays AAA-Sacranton-WB Red Barons ATGC-Orrville Red Riders

01-25-2004, 09:26 PM	#18 (permalink)
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,680 Thanks: 52 Thanked 48x in 26 posts	The questioner named no one, and both sides gave their points of view. Had I been the questioned owner, I wouldn’t have immediately quit the league, since the Commish was only investigating. __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 ’35 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59 IOLD

01-25-2004, 11:31 PM	#19 (permalink)
truthserum All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,593 Thanks: 0 Thanked 88x in 68 posts	I can vouch for Angel....but his patience has been on a short leash lately. What's wrong buddy? __________________ My Photobucket Fictional Logos w/ uniforms

01-26-2004, 07:15 AM	#20 (permalink)
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 546 Thanks: 3 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Hang in there ud411, you didn't make a mistake if you didn't accuse him. At worst you just made a hasty decision based on insufficient facts. Those berating you for what you did is more judgmental than what you did. __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers" MLBC Last edited by Jestre; 01-26-2004 at 07:17 AM.

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