Salary cap or no salary cap

phenom · 09-03-2004, 12:53 PM

I'm trying to decide if I want a cap, or if I want to retain as much realism as possible and not have a cap.

Is there anything I should be aware of in an online league if I didn't have a cap?

jdalo · 09-03-2004, 01:22 PM

i like not having a cap, but it really doesnt matter. its just about personal preference really. if you are starting a league i would certainly be interested in taking over the pirates, also.

Raderick · 09-03-2004, 02:05 PM

There is an 'other' option?

ifspuds · 09-03-2004, 02:42 PM

I run my league without a cap, and of my other leagues one has a cap, one has financials off, so I've seen all sides.

I personally don't like salary caps as a matter of principle, which is why I decided not to use one. I retain the right as a commissioner to adjust or cancel any deals that are clearly out of the realm of possibility, like offering a player $30 mil a year. It helps if you have owners you can trust, of course. I've never had to cancel a deal (free agency or trade) for financial reasons in a year of the league's existence.

The cap introduces a bit more strategy, and it makes trade talks more complex (but fun, trying to put together salaries that can get a deal done).

phenom · 09-03-2004, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

There is an 'other' option?

huh?

phenom · 09-03-2004, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jdalo

i like not having a cap, but it really doesnt matter. its just about personal preference really. if you are starting a league i would certainly be interested in taking over the pirates, also.

fictional league.

I have no Pirates.

Raderick · 09-03-2004, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by phenom

huh?

The Home Plate Baseball League instead uses a Revenue Sharing and a Luxury tax system. So far, it has worked like a charm.

phenom · 09-03-2004, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

The Home Plate Baseball League instead uses a Revenue Sharing and a Luxury tax system. So far, it has worked like a charm.

mind if I check that out? And where is the HPBL?

rem · 09-03-2004, 04:50 PM

http://hpbl.pointatrad.com

sporr · 09-03-2004, 05:18 PM

The main reason that I have never liked salary caps is that it always seems like there are teams that earn great amounts of cash and have nothing that they can do with it. As a strategy, you can sign players to long term deals knowing that if they crap out you can always cut them and absorb the expense.

Raderick · 09-03-2004, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by phenom

mind if I check that out? And where is the HPBL?

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Originally Posted by remangiii

http://hpbl.pointatrad.com

+1

phenom · 09-03-2004, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

+1

Jeremy Weimer · 09-03-2004, 09:18 PM

I totally agree with Sporr's comments.

Matteo · 09-03-2004, 09:47 PM

What I do is looking how much money leaves the league each season (player expenses) and how much comes into the league (attendance, playoffs, rewards, tv and merchandising)...

I see if there is a big difference, and how the spread (variance) is....

If necessary, I alter the tv revenue (same for all teams). Merchandising revenue is set, and dependent on real life markte size. In this way I can control how much money is coming into the league.

We never had the need for a cap. We have 5* players becoming FAs because teams cannot afford them...

09-03-2004, 12:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,302 Thanks: 9 Thanked 110x in 57 posts	Salary cap or no salary cap I'm trying to decide if I want a cap, or if I want to retain as much realism as possible and not have a cap. Is there anything I should be aware of in an online league if I didn't have a cap? __________________ reported

09-03-2004, 02:42 PM	#4 (permalink)
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,117 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	I run my league without a cap, and of my other leagues one has a cap, one has financials off, so I've seen all sides. I personally don't like salary caps as a matter of principle, which is why I decided not to use one. I retain the right as a commissioner to adjust or cancel any deals that are clearly out of the realm of possibility, like offering a player $30 mil a year. It helps if you have owners you can trust, of course. I've never had to cancel a deal (free agency or trade) for financial reasons in a year of the league's existence. The cap introduces a bit more strategy, and it makes trade talks more complex (but fun, trying to put together salaries that can get a deal done). __________________ Jeff Watson Former dynasty writer and online league player, now mostly retired

09-03-2004, 04:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 4,998 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 5 posts	http://hpbl.pointatrad.com __________________ Born To Play: Commissioner, Baltimore Orioles GM MLB 93: Baltimore Orioles OTBA: Washington Filibusters 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

09-03-2004, 05:18 PM	#10 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35x in 2 posts	The main reason that I have never liked salary caps is that it always seems like there are teams that earn great amounts of cash and have nothing that they can do with it. As a strategy, you can sign players to long term deals knowing that if they crap out you can always cut them and absorb the expense. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

09-03-2004, 09:47 PM	#14 (permalink)
Matteo Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 473 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	What I do is looking how much money leaves the league each season (player expenses) and how much comes into the league (attendance, playoffs, rewards, tv and merchandising)... I see if there is a big difference, and how the spread (variance) is.... If necessary, I alter the tv revenue (same for all teams). Merchandising revenue is set, and dependent on real life markte size. In this way I can control how much money is coming into the league. We never had the need for a cap. We have 5* players becoming FAs because teams cannot afford them... __________________ ESPN The Show live chat during 2004 ALCS: Julie (Boston): Do you think Jeter does the fist pump everytime he disappoints a woman in bed? Or does he save it for when he's with A-Rod? Bill Simmons: Whoops - I didn't mean to post that. Really, I didn't.

09-03-2004, 01:22 PM	#2 (permalink)
jdalo Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 52 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	i like not having a cap, but it really doesnt matter. its just about personal preference really. if you are starting a league i would certainly be interested in taking over the pirates, also.

09-03-2004, 09:18 PM	#13 (permalink)
Jeremy Weimer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Mounds View, MN Posts: 3,376 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4x in 2 posts	I totally agree with Sporr's comments.

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