DAT league file question

phenom · 10-08-2004, 09:33 PM

are there any DAT files I can exclude from a DAT file zip for a league file? After 104 years of sims, my DAT zip file is pretty big (7+ MB). The retired.dat file is 5MB of that (compressed).

help me?

jnshmoo · 10-08-2004, 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenom

are there any DAT files I can exclude from a DAT file zip for a league file? After 104 years of sims, my DAT zip file is pretty big (7+ MB). The retired.dat file is 5MB of that (compressed).

help me?

Being a member of the league he is working on, I would like to second his request.

gubaru · 10-08-2004, 09:41 PM

The retired.dat file is only necessary if you want to allow the owner to view hall of fame & other retired players in the game. You can leave it out without hurting anything.

rem · 10-08-2004, 09:48 PM

You also only need to download that retired file once a season and things will still work correctly. I'd suggest only including the retired file in the lagre file, although maybe have a seperate link for it.

phenom · 10-08-2004, 10:42 PM

okay, good. screw the owners wanting HOF history.

thanks for the help!

DaveHorn · 10-08-2004, 10:55 PM

I have a simple batch file that combined with (WinRAR which you can download for free) lets you grab only the absolutely necessary files for the league files that have changed on your sim date.

So after each sim, you use this batch file and it will only zip up the necessary files that have changed. Makes it very easy to grab the only boxscores/gamelogs for that sim. Then your GMs can get everything (including the boxscores/logs) in one small download (less the 4MBs for a 2 week sim).

The catch is the GMs must never erase their league file directory. After each update they simply extract into it and they always stay in synch and up to date.

I also have a batch file that creates a full league file w/o boxscores/gamelogs. And another batch file that creates a zip that only contains the box/logs.

As long as you have a rudimentary understanding of your computer its pretty simple to use and keeps your files lean and mean.

Obviously your "full" league file would be fairly large with 100 years of history in it, but your GMs would only have to download it once or only after it has been modified for some reason.

Post if your interested and I can post the batch files here with explanation.

rem · 10-08-2004, 11:03 PM

What happens if a gm misses an update?

DaveHorn · 10-09-2004, 12:53 AM

Nothing typically, but if they were out of date their file could not be submitted just like any league. But if they skipped one and then got the next one they'd be fine because the necessary league files that change when you do a sim are all the necessary files to submit. But for example, in the case above, the retired.dat would only be included in the sim in which it changed. So if the GM doesn't happen to pull down that file, if they decide they wanted the retired.dat later, they just have to resynch by pulling down the full file.

kq76 · 10-09-2004, 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveHorn

I have a simple batch file that combined with (WinRAR which you can download for free) lets you grab only the absolutely necessary files for the league files that have changed on your sim date.

So after each sim, you use this batch file and it will only zip up the necessary files that have changed. Makes it very easy to grab the only boxscores/gamelogs for that sim. Then your GMs can get everything (including the boxscores/logs) in one small download (less the 4MBs for a 2 week sim).

The catch is the GMs must never erase their league file directory. After each update they simply extract into it and they always stay in synch and up to date.

I also have a batch file that creates a full league file w/o boxscores/gamelogs. And another batch file that creates a zip that only contains the box/logs.

As long as you have a rudimentary understanding of your computer its pretty simple to use and keeps your files lean and mean.

Obviously your "full" league file would be fairly large with 100 years of history in it, but your GMs would only have to download it once or only after it has been modified for some reason.

Post if your interested and I can post the batch files here with explanation.

I use winzip to grab only the changed files so I don't really need them, but I'd like to look at your batch files just to see how they work. Thanks.

clutch · 10-09-2004, 09:56 AM

Me too. Right now, I just go into file details and zip only files that have changed during the sim by looking at the date.

kq76 · 10-09-2004, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clutch

Me too. Right now, I just go into file details and zip only files that have changed during the sim by looking at the date.

There's another way to do it via WinZip as PLG explains at: Online league export file size

Basically, right-click on your lg folder, select WinZip, Add to Zip File, check "Include only..." and check "Reset Archive...", then click Add. It takes about 10 seconds. You should read the explanation to understand what it's doing though.

DaveHorn · 10-09-2004, 01:33 PM

I'm aware of the GUI methods to create the league file, but I prefer the batch file method because its much faster and because by making different copies of a single text file, I can create all sorts of backups; the delta file, the full file, the html file, a logo file, a player facepack, etc.

Here is the main cmd file

*** createleaguefile.cmd

Code:

del "Hit For The Cycle%2.zip"
set path=%path%;c:\program files\winrar
winrar a -ta%1 -r "Hit For The Cycle%2" @%3
copy "Hit For The Cycle%2.zip" d:\hitforthecycle

You pass 3 things to the batch file on the command line. The first param just give the league file its name. The second the date from which to start collecting files. And the third points it to the file that contains the file list. Here are some examples.

Here are examples of 3 files list files I use

*** detafiles.lst

Code:

"Hit For The Cycle.lg\*.dat"
"Hit For The Cycle.lg\*.txt"
"Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\box*.html"
"Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\log*.html"

*** leaguefiles.list

Code:

"Hit For The Cycle.lg\*.dat"
"Hit For The Cycle.lg\*.txt"

*** htmlfiles.lst

Code:

"Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\box*.html"
"Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\log*.html"

To get ALL files in the file list and not files from a certain date forward, the second parameter is simply an invalid date. To get ALL files in your league directory and not use a file list simply don't pass a third parameter.

Here are some examples and what they would do

Code:

createleaguefile 20041009 Delta deltafiles.lst

Creates the delta file, grabbing ONLY the files that changed on or after 10/09/2004.

Code:

createleaguefile 2004 FullwithBoxLog deltafiles.lst

Since 2004 is in invalid date, it simple grabs all files. This would create a full league file download that contains the boxscores and gamelogs.

Code:

createleaguefile 2004 FULL

This simply creates a backup of the ENTIRE directory since the date is invalid and the 3rd parameter was left off.

Code:

createleaguefile 2004 leaguefiles.lst

Creates a full league file that does not include the boxscores/logs

Code:

createleaguefile 2004 htmlfiles.lst

Creates a full zip of all only all boxscores/logs.

10-08-2004, 09:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,302 Thanks: 9 Thanked 110x in 57 posts	DAT league file question are there any DAT files I can exclude from a DAT file zip for a league file? After 104 years of sims, my DAT zip file is pretty big (7+ MB). The retired.dat file is 5MB of that (compressed). help me? __________________ reported

10-08-2004, 09:48 PM	#4 (permalink)
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 4,998 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 5 posts	You also only need to download that retired file once a season and things will still work correctly. I'd suggest only including the retired file in the lagre file, although maybe have a seperate link for it. __________________ Born To Play: Commissioner, Baltimore Orioles GM MLB 93: Baltimore Orioles OTBA: Washington Filibusters 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

10-08-2004, 10:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,302 Thanks: 9 Thanked 110x in 57 posts	okay, good. screw the owners wanting HOF history. thanks for the help! __________________ reported

10-08-2004, 10:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
DaveHorn All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,141 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I have a simple batch file that combined with (WinRAR which you can download for free) lets you grab only the absolutely necessary files for the league files that have changed on your sim date. So after each sim, you use this batch file and it will only zip up the necessary files that have changed. Makes it very easy to grab the only boxscores/gamelogs for that sim. Then your GMs can get everything (including the boxscores/logs) in one small download (less the 4MBs for a 2 week sim). The catch is the GMs must never erase their league file directory. After each update they simply extract into it and they always stay in synch and up to date. I also have a batch file that creates a full league file w/o boxscores/gamelogs. And another batch file that creates a zip that only contains the box/logs. As long as you have a rudimentary understanding of your computer its pretty simple to use and keeps your files lean and mean. Obviously your "full" league file would be fairly large with 100 years of history in it, but your GMs would only have to download it once or only after it has been modified for some reason. Post if your interested and I can post the batch files here with explanation. __________________ Dave HFTC Commish

10-08-2004, 11:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 4,998 Thanks: 7 Thanked 7x in 5 posts	What happens if a gm misses an update? __________________ Born To Play: Commissioner, Baltimore Orioles GM MLB 93: Baltimore Orioles OTBA: Washington Filibusters 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

10-08-2004, 09:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
gubaru Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Tyrone, PA Posts: 326 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	The retired.dat file is only necessary if you want to allow the owner to view hall of fame & other retired players in the game. You can leave it out without hurting anything.

10-09-2004, 12:53 AM	#8 (permalink)
DaveHorn All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,141 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Nothing typically, but if they were out of date their file could not be submitted just like any league. But if they skipped one and then got the next one they'd be fine because the necessary league files that change when you do a sim are all the necessary files to submit. But for example, in the case above, the retired.dat would only be included in the sim in which it changed. So if the GM doesn't happen to pull down that file, if they decide they wanted the retired.dat later, they just have to resynch by pulling down the full file. __________________ Dave HFTC Commish

10-09-2004, 09:56 AM	#10 (permalink)
clutch Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Valley of Nod Posts: 248 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Me too. Right now, I just go into file details and zip only files that have changed during the sim by looking at the date. __________________ Favorite: Baseball Team: Philadelphia Phillies Football Team: Miami Dolphins Race Car Driver: Dale Earnhardt Jr.

10-09-2004, 01:33 PM	#12 (permalink)
DaveHorn All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,141 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I'm aware of the GUI methods to create the league file, but I prefer the batch file method because its much faster and because by making different copies of a single text file, I can create all sorts of backups; the delta file, the full file, the html file, a logo file, a player facepack, etc. Here is the main cmd file * createleaguefile.cmd Code: del "Hit For The Cycle%2.zip" set path=%path%;c:\program files\winrar winrar a -ta%1 -r "Hit For The Cycle%2" @%3 copy "Hit For The Cycle%2.zip" d:\hitforthecycle You pass 3 things to the batch file on the command line. The first param just give the league file its name. The second the date from which to start collecting files. And the third points it to the file that contains the file list. Here are some examples. Here are examples of 3 files list files I use * detafiles.lst Code: "Hit For The Cycle.lg\.dat" "Hit For The Cycle.lg\.txt" "Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\box.html" "Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\log.html" *** leaguefiles.list Code: "Hit For The Cycle.lg\.dat" "Hit For The Cycle.lg\.txt" *** htmlfiles.lst Code: "Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\box.html" "Hit For The Cycle.lg\LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX\log.html" To get ALL files in the file list and not files from a certain date forward, the second parameter is simply an invalid date. To get ALL files in your league directory and not use a file list simply don't pass a third parameter. Here are some examples and what they would do Code: createleaguefile 20041009 Delta deltafiles.lst Creates the delta file, grabbing ONLY the files that changed on or after 10/09/2004. Code: createleaguefile 2004 FullwithBoxLog deltafiles.lst Since 2004 is in invalid date, it simple grabs all files. This would create a full league file download that contains the boxscores and gamelogs. Code: createleaguefile 2004 FULL This simply creates a backup of the ENTIRE directory since the date is invalid and the 3rd parameter was left off. Code: createleaguefile 2004 leaguefiles.lst Creates a full league file that does not include the boxscores/logs Code: createleaguefile 2004 htmlfiles.lst Creates a full zip of all only all boxscores/logs. __________________ Dave HFTC Commish

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