A slot for long relief

sfgiants88 · 10-11-2005, 12:43 PM

Prolly suggested a bazillion times already (but the search button isn't working so i have no way of knowing).

jm47048 · 10-11-2005, 06:15 PM

That would be cool. Something that would happen if the starter is out REAL early, i.e. injury, or not pitching well for whatever reason.

TotalEnd98 · 10-11-2005, 08:18 PM

Isn't this what mop-up reliever is for?

SDtwin · 10-11-2005, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TotalEnd98

Isn't this what mop-up reliever is for?

To me, and I think the game does it this way too, mop-up relievers are the guys who you can't depend on that much so you put them in to "mop up" when you are losing by a bunch or sometimes when you are winning by a bunch. Notice when you auto-arrange your pitching staff the crappy guy end up as mop-ups

jm47048 · 10-11-2005, 10:21 PM

Yeah, but I think that someone good should go into the position for long relief. Look at last night's game Yankees vs Angels. Colon had to come out, and Santana came in. I think we mean someone like a starter, rather then the crappy mop-up guy. Does this make sense? I think the mop-up guy should stay the same.

WWBL Commissioner · 10-11-2005, 10:24 PM

I guess it could always be coded that once hte first pitch of the game is thrown that "spot starter" could become Long Reliever

Ktulu · 10-12-2005, 02:52 PM

I'd like to have more detailed bullpen options which include the inning and game situation.

Something like:

Code:

Inning		Close	Blowout

5th or earlier
6th
7th
8th
9th

I'd also like to see a flag for relievers that says they can only face lefties or righties.

sfgiants88 · 10-12-2005, 03:03 PM

Fantastic! That's even better! I'll also add

Code:

Inning	             	Close	                       Blowout

5th or earlier      1st choice:                    1st choice:
                    2nd choice:                    2nd choice:

6th                 1st choice:                    1st choice:                        
                    1st choice:                    2nd choice:           

7th                   etc...                             etc..

8th                   etc...                             etc..

9th                   etc...                             etc..

Battists also came up with another fantastic idea:

Quote:

Trust - the higher the trust you have in a pitcher, the more likely the AI would be to put them in
Favor Rested Pitchers - the higher this value is, the less likely the AI would be to put in a pitcher who threw 35 pitches yesterday
Respect Pitching Roles - The higher this is, the more likely it would be that the AI would pitch your closer as your closer, instead of putting in your middle relief pitcher to get the save. Similarly, setup men would be used as setup men.

Combined with settings for "pitch count," "favor lefty/righty matchups," and "hook", that would make it pretty flexible.

Some other possibilities:

"never pitch this player for more than X innings" - for cases like you see in MLB all the time - the setup guy who NEVER pitches more than one inning

"favor between innings changes" - stop the AI from changing relief pitches after 1 out, unless absolutely necessary

10-11-2005, 12:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
sfgiants88 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 885	A slot for long relief Prolly suggested a bazillion times already (but the search button isn't working so i have no way of knowing).

10-11-2005, 06:15 PM	#2 (permalink)
jm47048 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,190	That would be cool. Something that would happen if the starter is out REAL early, i.e. injury, or not pitching well for whatever reason. __________________ The New York Yankees World Series Champions 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000 American League Champions 1921, 1922, 1923, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003

10-11-2005, 08:18 PM	#3 (permalink)
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	Isn't this what mop-up reliever is for? __________________ OTBL - Scandinavia Cartoon Heroes This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.

10-11-2005, 10:21 PM	#5 (permalink)
jm47048 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,190	Yeah, but I think that someone good should go into the position for long relief. Look at last night's game Yankees vs Angels. Colon had to come out, and Santana came in. I think we mean someone like a starter, rather then the crappy mop-up guy. Does this make sense? I think the mop-up guy should stay the same. __________________ The New York Yankees World Series Champions 1923, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1956, 1958, 1961, 1962, 1977, 1978, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000 American League Champions 1921, 1922, 1923, 1926, 1927, 1928, 1932, 1936, 1937, 1938, 1939, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1947, 1949, 1950, 1951, 1952, 1953, 1955, 1956, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1961, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1976, 1977, 1978, 1981, 1996, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003

10-11-2005, 10:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
WWBL Commissioner All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Hawaii Posts: 796	I guess it could always be coded that once hte first pitch of the game is thrown that "spot starter" could become Long Reliever __________________ Offey WWBL Commissioner WWBL: Hawaii Island Warriors 2005 Pacific League Champion 2006 Pacific League Champion 2007 Pacific League Champion 2008 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION 2010 WWBL WORLD CHAMPION The Island Warriors are 13-18 in World Series play. We are the Atlanta Braves of the WWBL BadAssBaseball: Boston Red Sox 1906 American League Champion 1907 WORLD CHAMPION

10-12-2005, 02:52 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ktulu All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 1,378	I'd like to have more detailed bullpen options which include the inning and game situation. Something like: Code: Inning Close Blowout 5th or earlier 6th 7th 8th 9th I'd also like to see a flag for relievers that says they can only face lefties or righties. __________________ WHBL - Calgary Nighthawks All-Time Record: 1035-749 .580 Seasons over .500: 11 Seasons under .500: 0 Americas Cup Championships: 2002, 2003 North American League Pennants: 2001, 2002, 2003 NA West Division Titles: 2011 Wild Cards: 2001, 2002, 2003 "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

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