Player interested in your team

Jazzmosis · 12-07-2005, 06:07 PM

Maybe this has been mentioned before, but I think it'd be really handy if at the start of an FA period, occassionally players would contact YOUR team saying they're interested in playing. It happens in real life from time to time... and perhaps, if they're interested, they'd settle for a smaller contract than some other bidders.

chrisstilwell · 12-12-2005, 03:09 PM

That would be cool

Erik · 12-12-2005, 05:34 PM

Especially if the players are from the hometown of the team you manage. Players do that quite often in real life and for a smaller contract than another team may be offering.

Sublimity · 12-12-2005, 06:25 PM

This is a really cool idea.

BruceM · 12-12-2005, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Erik

Players do that quite often in real life and for a smaller contract than another team may be offering.

Examples please.

In todays world of sports, where it's "all about me and the $$$$$" it's pretty rare when a player takes less.

Malleus Dei · 12-12-2005, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Examples please.

Chipper Jones?

ifspuds · 12-12-2005, 11:47 PM

I don't even care if it means they'd be willing to sign for less money. I'd just like having a player tell me they're interested in my team.

Dark Horse · 12-13-2005, 03:13 AM

That would make a nice news story as well.

Player X to be a free agent. He really wants to play for...

Splitter24 · 12-13-2005, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceM

Examples please.

In todays world of sports, where it's "all about me and the $$$$$" it's pretty rare when a player takes less.

Brian Giles took less to stay in SD (near his hometown) than he could have got on the open market. Paul Konerko took the home town discount to stay with the White Sox. Both could have gotten more (and were offered more) from other teams. And that was just this off season.

Everybody likes to talk about the money-grubbing ball players. And there are those, for sure. But there are also guys who are plenty willing to sacrifice a few million dollars for what they perceive to be a better situation. These guys are only a story for a few days after they take the lesser contract. But the guy who signs the biggest offer is talked about all off season.

BruceM · 12-13-2005, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Splitter24

Brian Giles took less to stay in SD (near his hometown) than he could have got on the open market. Paul Konerko took the home town discount to stay with the White Sox. Both could have gotten more (and were offered more) from other teams. And that was just this off season.

Everybody likes to talk about the money-grubbing ball players. And there are those, for sure. But there are also guys who are plenty willing to sacrifice a few million dollars for what they perceive to be a better situation. These guys are only a story for a few days after they take the lesser contract. But the guy who signs the biggest offer is talked about all off season.

Absolutely it does happen, I just said it was rare. I don't have the figures but if you took how many did this compared to how many took the $$$$, the percentage would be quite small.

Sublimity · 12-13-2005, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ifspuds

I don't even care if it means they'd be willing to sign for less money. I'd just like having a player tell me they're interested in my team.

Pretty much how I feel, too. I agree that it happens pretty rarely that a player takes less money, so if it happens rarely in the game, that'd be fine with me. Otherwise, it'd be nice to get some kind of indication.

andymac · 12-13-2005, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Examples please.

In todays world of sports, where it's "all about me and the $$$$$" it's pretty rare when a player takes less.

I know Isringhausen took quite a bit less money than others had offered to come to St. Louis when he originally signed. I'm sure there are more examples, but that is one off the top of my head.

plubbr · 12-13-2005, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Absolutely it does happen, I just said it was rare. I don't have the figures but if you took how many did this compared to how many took the $$$$, the percentage would be quite small.

I agree. It is quite rare, but it seems to be the bigger name players that do this most often. Ken Griffey with Cincy would be another example.

jerrycapo · 12-13-2005, 02:54 PM

I don't think it is all that rare, just that you don't really hear about it happening as much. Especially for some of the borderline major leaguers. While the free agency focus is always on the big names, the lesser players agents job is to find their clients a job. The agents then look for the team that may have a potential opening for that player. In a lot of cases, the player may have to accept a minor league deal.

For the top free agents, you do not hear about it as much because the number of teams and the dollars offered to a player is sometimes overwhealming and they get caught up in the hype of it all. Plus, you have to look at how the top players reach the free agent market. Alot of times a team may not even offer a player a new contract until free agency has come. At the beginning of this past season, I do not think the White Sox were concerned with re-signing Konerko. Then after he had such a good season, it became their top priority. In my opinion, they were lucky he signed with them, he certainly was entitled to take the bigger contract in my opinion.

Other times a player makes his intentions known early on he will be seeking as big of a contract as he can receive ala A-Rod. Again, players should be entitled to do that. How many times has someone left a company because another company was offering more money, better benefits, or better working conditions. And how many people stay with the same company year after year because they like the familiarity. There is nothing wrong with leaving one company for a better opportunity, nor is there anything wrong with staying.

Look at modern baseball history and you will see several players that stayed with the same team through their career or most of it. The difference is they never waited until their contract expired to renegotiate.

Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Cal Ripken, Chipper Jones, John Smoltz, Jimmy Rollins, Jim Edmonds, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Tony Gwynn are names I can think of off the top of my head.

Others players would have liked to stayed but were not given the opportunity because their careers are winding down, such as Mike Piazza and Frank Thomas this offseason.

All the best,
Jerry

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jerrycapo Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 381	I don't think it is all that rare, just that you don't really hear about it happening as much. Especially for some of the borderline major leaguers. While the free agency focus is always on the big names, the lesser players agents job is to find their clients a job. The agents then look for the team that may have a potential opening for that player. In a lot of cases, the player may have to accept a minor league deal. For the top free agents, you do not hear about it as much because the number of teams and the dollars offered to a player is sometimes overwhealming and they get caught up in the hype of it all. Plus, you have to look at how the top players reach the free agent market. Alot of times a team may not even offer a player a new contract until free agency has come. At the beginning of this past season, I do not think the White Sox were concerned with re-signing Konerko. Then after he had such a good season, it became their top priority. In my opinion, they were lucky he signed with them, he certainly was entitled to take the bigger contract in my opinion. Other times a player makes his intentions known early on he will be seeking as big of a contract as he can receive ala A-Rod. Again, players should be entitled to do that. How many times has someone left a company because another company was offering more money, better benefits, or better working conditions. And how many people stay with the same company year after year because they like the familiarity. There is nothing wrong with leaving one company for a better opportunity, nor is there anything wrong with staying. Look at modern baseball history and you will see several players that stayed with the same team through their career or most of it. The difference is they never waited until their contract expired to renegotiate. Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Cal Ripken, Chipper Jones, John Smoltz, Jimmy Rollins, Jim Edmonds, Jeff Bagwell, Craig Biggio, Tony Gwynn are names I can think of off the top of my head. Others players would have liked to stayed but were not given the opportunity because their careers are winding down, such as Mike Piazza and Frank Thomas this offseason. All the best, Jerry

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