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Earlier versions of OOTP: Suggestions and Feature Wish List Let us know what you would like to see in future versions of OOTP! OOTPBM 2006 is in development, and there is still time left to get your suggestions into the game.

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Old 11-19-2012, 07:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A full Staff Please

This would include:

Owner
Director of Player Development
Director of Scouting
Regional Scouts (amateur, MLB, International)
Team Physician
Team Trainer
General Manager (Could be OOTP Player)
Field Manager (Could be OOTP Player)
Hitting Coach
Pitching Coach
Bench Coach
Catching Coach
Bullpen Coach
Infield Coach
Outfield Coach
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Old 11-19-2012, 08:45 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The only thing I don't like about this is all the hiring I would have to do every couple seasons.
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Old 11-19-2012, 10:51 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A fine idea, as long as some other necessary staff improvements are made at the same time.

1. An AI that will hire coaches that make sense for the position
2. A decent organizational staff summary page
3. The ability to offer contracts to multiple coaches at the same time for the same position
4. The ability to offer a contract for a position that's still occupied

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Personally, I'd rather see staff simplified and more abstracted, not expanded. (One of the issues for staff is having salaries for them that reasonably realistic—while player salaries are available in considerable detail, there is little salary data for managers and almost nothing for any other staff. In other words, there is no reference data by which to set a staff salary model up.)
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I think this could be estimated fairly well, and reflected in a realistic enough manner.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I think this could be estimated fairly well, and reflected in a realistic enough manner.
How? There is no real-world reference data that I'm aware of, either past or present, which can serve as a guide. At least with managers there's a tiny bit of data, which at least allows for a rough guess.
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Well, I would venture to guess salaries would be less than managers as well as hitting and pitching coaches.
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Well, I would venture to guess salaries would be less than managers as well as hitting and pitching coaches.
That's not exactly a precise set of data.
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No, but it's estimated, and likely close enough...I don't see this as a reason to not add this as a feature.



EDIT:besides, with a fictional league or a MLB league going forward, why would it matter? Just as long as they make somewhere in the range of 100k-200k ...maybe an exceptional coach could pull down 250k, but would likely move on to being a hitting/pitching coach or manger.

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No, but it's estimated, and likely close enough...I don't see this as a reason to not add this as a feature.
We disagree.

Personally, I'd rather have less staff to micromanage, not more. Heck, I'd abstract out the scouting director role. Having distinct owner, general manager, and manager personalities is enough staff for me. YMMV.
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Would these coaches actually do something or would this simply be for show?
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Coaches should have some influence over player development. (or lack of) I'm not saying it should be the only factor in development, but it should have SOME influence, just as Managers and coaches do now. example: A good catching coach might mask or delay the effects of a catcher who is aging, and is playing a little above his head. It's a balancing act that would need to be done carefully and with great detail to make it realistic. The abilities of all of these coaches should be factored in together. Also, each coach should have opinions on each player on the roster. Certain types of coaches should might "mesh" better with certain types of players. I'd like to see coaches with more specific abilities also. Example: You have a bullpen coach who doesn't coach holding runners well. (even though in this case you would want one who does) This could have a negative affect on pitchers in the pen with a low "Hold Runner" rating...but then again it could be balanced out by a pitching coach who is superior in this area. The bullpen coach might have a little more influence though since he works with bullpen pitchers more on a day to day basis. his is what I mean by a good balancing act.

I'd like to see the coach ratings re-done. They should be rated in their abilities to coach and manage specific skills, rather than just the general "coach pitching", or coach hitting" ratings. How about the ability to coach base running, stealing, or the hit & run? These abilities should also fall in line with the coach/ manager's strategy preferences.
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Agreed on that last post completely.

I am not saying I want MORE coaches, but I would like the coach choices to mean more.
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The last thing I want to do is cycle through opinions of coaches who have no effect on players they are not qualified to coach. Tied for the last thing I want is my unqualified bullpen or (insert any other coach) having any effect, no matter how small, on my big time RF.

Another FM idea that's really bad.
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Not sure where you are getting FM from? The reason why coaches should have opinions is because they shouldn't always be the same type of coach. It just makes things a bit more uniform. After all, it's your job as the GM to decipher who's opinion is valuable. A bullpen coach could be promoted to a pitching coach, or might even become a minor league manager. Coaches should not be "pre-locked" into the type of role or job they have. They should be hired based on their abilities. Maybe there is a coach that's good at a lot of different things, and is on track for a manager's job at some point?


Edit: in fact, I think the coach/manager ratings should be gone, and it should be handled in terms of philosophy, strategy preference, past players coached, history, etc...

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I was with you until you said that coaching ratings should be gone.

Absolutely not.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:39 AM   #18 (permalink)
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why?...I think you should be charged with figuring out who the best coaches are, and which ones fit the style of team you've constructed. Do you hire a coach who plays small ball and is heavy on defense with speedy players, or a coach who prefers power hitting, or a straight pitcher's coach. How well do they mesh with the players on your roster?

EDIT: It's like playing stats only wit the coaches.
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I have no problem with coaching tendencies, as I said. But ratings about how good a coach is at teaching things and handling players? These are crucial as they are the most important part of being a coach.

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I have no problem with coaching tendencies, as I said. But ratings about how good a coach is at teaching things and ahndling players? These are crucial as they are the most important part of being a coach.
Perhaps you are correct on this..I am just brainstorming about an area of the game that needs work and more detail.
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