Trainers

[eriqjaffe]

Handled in a similar manner to coaches & scouts.

What it'd boil down to:

Trainers would influence (to an extent) the number and duration of injuries, as well as the accurace of reports you get about injuries.

We've all gotten emails from the team doctor saying, "So-and-so's injury isn't healing as fast as I thought, expect him to be out another 6 weeks." The better your trainer is, the more accurate (or, rather, the more likely to be accurate) those emails (as well as the original diagnoses) would be.

You may also get emails from your trainer saying things like, "you may want to institute a pitch count on Pitcher A, you don't want to blow out his arm."

Something along those lines...

--Eriq.

[mlyons]

I like this, hopefully in conjunction with a revamped injury system.

[jnshmoo]

I think this is yet another feature that the move to SI will help with. The Championship Manager series has had this functionality with team Physio's. You would hire and fire them just like with the coaches. The better guys could help accelerate healing time and/or give more accurate reports on how long a player would be out.

[Dan Theman]

Hmm - I like it. It was actually brought up a long time ago, and the twists included here are very nice. A definite plus for the game!

[ctorg]

Baseball mogul had something along the lines of this, with money put towards a medical staff, but having actual trainers with skills would be great. I'd like to have that along with a hirable manager added to the coaches. Maybe then I'd actually turn coaches on.

[Ktulu]

I like the idea as long as it is not "Handled in a similar manner to coaches & scouts."

I would much rather have a system where you dedicate funds, rather than a system where you sign individual people. The more money you spend on "medical/training" the better your staff is.

[gmo]

With this being in CM it does seem a likely addition. But if you want to have trainers like coaches I think the coaches system needs to be revamped to some degree. Too many people say they just throw a bunch of money at coaches and get the best then feel unsatisfied with that result. Adding another thing that human players can exploit compared to the AI seems not very useful.

[ctorg]

Originally Posted by Ktulu

I like the idea as long as it is not "Handled in a similar manner to coaches & scouts."

I would much rather have a system where you dedicate funds, rather than a system where you sign individual people. The more money you spend on "medical/training" the better your staff is.

I could deal with it either way. I do wish coaches would be overhauled a bit so that you could rehire them at the ends of their contracts.

[eriqjaffe]

I mentioned that trainers could be handled the way coaches and scouts are handled for two reasons:

1) Ease of coding.
2) Ease of use.

I agree that the coach & scout system could use some work, but I would think that the training system would work in a similar method, whatever that method may be.

FWIW, I have found it harder to sign legendary coaches and scouts in 6...it seems like, most of the time, no matter how much money I throw at them, they sign somewhere else for a little bit more. I don't think I've ever successfully signed a legendary coach or minor league manager...I remember in OOTP5, I was able to do that with regularity.

[Ktulu]

FWIW, I have found it harder to sign legendary coaches and scouts in 6...it seems like, most of the time, no matter how much money I throw at them, they sign somewhere else for a little bit more. I don't think I've ever successfully signed a legendary coach or minor league manager...I remember in OOTP5, I was able to do that with regularity.

One of my problems with the way coaches and scouts work is that there is too much of a difference between the top end talent and the bottom end. You basically either get a great coach or a really crappy one, there is no in between.

[ctorg]

Originally Posted by Ktulu

One of my problems with the way coaches and scouts work is that there is too much of a difference between the top end talent and the bottom end. You basically either get a great coach or a really crappy one, there is no in between.

Did Markus ever fix the old "you can sign any coach for $200,000" (or whatever the price was) bug? That was a killer, I think.

Really, how much of an impact do most hitting or pitching coaches have? Some have a pretty big one on some players, but most really don't affect a whole lot. They kind of maintain the status quo.

[Dan Theman]

Originally Posted by ctorg

Did Markus ever fix the old "you can sign any coach for $200,000" (or whatever the price was) bug? That was a killer, I think.

Really, how much of an impact do most hitting or pitching coaches have? Some have a pretty big one on some players, but most really don't affect a whole lot. They kind of maintain the status quo.

$200,000?!?!?!?!?! DANG IT!!! And here I've been forking over millions for mine .... lol. I've personally found I could walk away with anyone for $2 million in solo mode, but I haven't searched for some "magic bid" amount.

[Ktulu]

Did Markus ever fix the old "you can sign any coach for $200,000" (or whatever the price was) bug? That was a killer, I think.

I don't know, I havent used coaches/scouts since V5.

[eriqjaffe]

Originally Posted by ctorg

Did Markus ever fix the old "you can sign any coach for $200,000" (or whatever the price was) bug?

"I don't know, but I'll find out next off-season!"