Crash at Season End

Seamus O'Snappe · 12-31-2002, 04:07 PM

Yesterday I re-downloaded OOTP4 using my license. I installed the latest version and created a historical league starting at the 1985 season. I expanded the league to have 3 divisions of six teams each in each league. The season simmed fine until the series was over. I keep getting an error message which crashes the game when I try to sim further than 11/9/1985. Please help!

P.S. This is not the first time I have used this game. I have run the game previously and created leagues with no problem. I uninstalled the game last summer because I was very busy at work and could not play.

Scott Vibert · 12-31-2002, 04:26 PM

Did you generate a new schedule when you expanded the league? Did you do the expanions at the start or at the end of the season? Are there any games after 11/9/1985?

If there aren't any games left.. then you need to push the proceed to next season button.

Can you give more details about what exactly was going on in your league just before you got the crash?

Seamus O'Snappe · 12-31-2002, 05:02 PM

Q: Did you generate a new schedule when you expanded the league?

A: YES.

Q: Did you do the expansions at the start or at the end of the season?

A: Before start.

Q: Are there any games after 11/9/1985?

A: The final game of the WS was on 11/9.

Q: If there aren't any games left.. then you need to push the proceed to next season button.

A: If only it were that easy... The button does not appear.

Q: Can you give more details about what exactly was going on in your league just before you got the crash?

A: The league standings screen shows that the last game of the ws was played today (11/9/1985). The ticker has headlines dated 11/10/1985 showing the rookie of the year, etc. Any attempt to sim further, by day, month, week, etc. causes the crash.

Scott Vibert · 12-31-2002, 05:11 PM

The button should have shown up and the League Standings screen in the top right hand corner. The League Standings screen should look like the playoff tree right now.

Did the playoffs occur as they should have for a 3 division league (3 teams + Wild Card)? Did each team play their full schedule?

Was there anything odd that occurred during the season that you remember?

A lot of this is just thinking "out loud" since I haven't run into this issue in the past...

Seamus O'Snappe · 12-31-2002, 05:18 PM

The button should have shown up and the League Standings screen in the top right hand corner. ... YEP, that's what I expected

The League Standings screen should look like the playoff tree right now. It does

Did the playoffs occur as they should have for a 3 division league (3 teams + Wild Card)? yes, everything was fine.

Did each team play their full schedule? yes

Was there anything odd that occurred during the season that you remember? well there were 10 expansion teams playing with AAA players in the majors so there were quite a few 100 win and 100 loss teams. I don't know if that might have done something.

Seamus O'Snappe · 12-31-2002, 05:32 PM

It seems to me that the problem is related to the two different dates. The schedule indicates that today is 11/9 while other parts of the game show 11/10. If I could edit the schedule.dat file and change today to 11/10 it might work out.

SO HOW DO I DO THAT?

Scott Vibert · 12-31-2002, 06:19 PM

If the PE2 Editor is fully enabled then it may allow you to change the date... but I think that this option may have been grayed out.

Now the game schedule just shows a schedule date... so I didn't think that it would matter if that was different then the date in the top left.

You might want to try adding an exhibition game between two scrub teams and seeing what happens if you sim that..

I really don't know how to edit the schedule.dat file, as far as I know it can't be done in game.

Seamus O'Snappe · 12-31-2002, 11:01 PM

I uninstalled the game, re-installed, created a new historic league starting in 1986 with 3 divisions of 6 teams each. Ran the season and damned if the same thing didn't happen!!! I am going to try to redownload the setup file.

BTW: this is the error message that causes the crash right after the WS is over.

OOTP4 caused a divide error in module OOTP4.EXE at 018f:0061feb1.
Registers:
EAX=00000032 CS=018f EIP=0061feb1 EFLGS=00010246
EBX=00000000 SS=0197 ESP=00d8ed8c EBP=00d8ee2c
ECX=00000006 DS=0197 ESI=00000000 FS=12b7
EDX=00000000 ES=0197 EDI=00a8b028 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
f7 fe 03 c8 89 4d dc 8b 4d d4 81 e1 ff 00 00 00
Stack dump:
00d8efa4 030acc68 00e9fcd4 00e9fa04 00e9f824 038acd68 00e9fd24 00e9faa4 00e9fb94 038acd18 00d8e778 00d8e778 030acc68 030acc68 030acc68 038acd18

AngelinOF · 12-31-2002, 11:43 PM

Are any teams human controlled? I seem to recall someone having a problem with expansion because some of the teams were human controlled.

12-31-2002, 04:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
Seamus O'Snappe Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Crash at Season End Yesterday I re-downloaded OOTP4 using my license. I installed the latest version and created a historical league starting at the 1985 season. I expanded the league to have 3 divisions of six teams each in each league. The season simmed fine until the series was over. I keep getting an error message which crashes the game when I try to sim further than 11/9/1985. Please help! P.S. This is not the first time I have used this game. I have run the game previously and created leagues with no problem. I uninstalled the game last summer because I was very busy at work and could not play.

12-31-2002, 05:02 PM	#3 (permalink)
Seamus O'Snappe Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Q: Did you generate a new schedule when you expanded the league? A: YES. Q: Did you do the expansions at the start or at the end of the season? A: Before start. Q: Are there any games after 11/9/1985? A: The final game of the WS was on 11/9. Q: If there aren't any games left.. then you need to push the proceed to next season button. A: If only it were that easy... The button does not appear. Q: Can you give more details about what exactly was going on in your league just before you got the crash? A: The league standings screen shows that the last game of the ws was played today (11/9/1985). The ticker has headlines dated 11/10/1985 showing the rookie of the year, etc. Any attempt to sim further, by day, month, week, etc. causes the crash. Last edited by Seamus O'Snappe; 12-31-2002 at 05:07 PM.

12-31-2002, 05:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Seamus O'Snappe Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	It seems to me that the problem is related to the two different dates. The schedule indicates that today is 11/9 while other parts of the game show 11/10. If I could edit the schedule.dat file and change today to 11/10 it might work out. SO HOW DO I DO THAT? Last edited by Seamus O'Snappe; 12-31-2002 at 05:35 PM.

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12-31-2002, 04:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 7,551 Thanks: 72 Thanked 48x in 30 posts	Did you generate a new schedule when you expanded the league? Did you do the expanions at the start or at the end of the season? Are there any games after 11/9/1985? If there aren't any games left.. then you need to push the proceed to next season button. Can you give more details about what exactly was going on in your league just before you got the crash?

12-31-2002, 05:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 7,551 Thanks: 72 Thanked 48x in 30 posts	The button should have shown up and the League Standings screen in the top right hand corner. The League Standings screen should look like the playoff tree right now. Did the playoffs occur as they should have for a 3 division league (3 teams + Wild Card)? Did each team play their full schedule? Was there anything odd that occurred during the season that you remember? A lot of this is just thinking "out loud" since I haven't run into this issue in the past...

12-31-2002, 05:18 PM	#5 (permalink)
Seamus O'Snappe Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	The button should have shown up and the League Standings screen in the top right hand corner. ... YEP, that's what I expected The League Standings screen should look like the playoff tree right now. It does Did the playoffs occur as they should have for a 3 division league (3 teams + Wild Card)? yes, everything was fine. Did each team play their full schedule? yes Was there anything odd that occurred during the season that you remember? well there were 10 expansion teams playing with AAA players in the majors so there were quite a few 100 win and 100 loss teams. I don't know if that might have done something.

12-31-2002, 06:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 7,551 Thanks: 72 Thanked 48x in 30 posts	If the PE2 Editor is fully enabled then it may allow you to change the date... but I think that this option may have been grayed out. Now the game schedule just shows a schedule date... so I didn't think that it would matter if that was different then the date in the top left. You might want to try adding an exhibition game between two scrub teams and seeing what happens if you sim that.. I really don't know how to edit the schedule.dat file, as far as I know it can't be done in game.

12-31-2002, 11:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Seamus O'Snappe Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I uninstalled the game, re-installed, created a new historic league starting in 1986 with 3 divisions of 6 teams each. Ran the season and damned if the same thing didn't happen!!! I am going to try to redownload the setup file. BTW: this is the error message that causes the crash right after the WS is over. OOTP4 caused a divide error in module OOTP4.EXE at 018f:0061feb1. Registers: EAX=00000032 CS=018f EIP=0061feb1 EFLGS=00010246 EBX=00000000 SS=0197 ESP=00d8ed8c EBP=00d8ee2c ECX=00000006 DS=0197 ESI=00000000 FS=12b7 EDX=00000000 ES=0197 EDI=00a8b028 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: f7 fe 03 c8 89 4d dc 8b 4d d4 81 e1 ff 00 00 00 Stack dump: 00d8efa4 030acc68 00e9fcd4 00e9fa04 00e9f824 038acd68 00e9fd24 00e9faa4 00e9fb94 038acd18 00d8e778 00d8e778 030acc68 030acc68 030acc68 038acd18

12-31-2002, 11:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,354 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Are any teams human controlled? I seem to recall someone having a problem with expansion because some of the teams were human controlled.