Another ER misscoring

mtw · 03-14-2002, 06:39 AM

I realize many of these have been posted, but as I see one I haven't yet noticed I'm going to post it regardless

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Out
Single
Double, runners at 2nd and 3rd
Fielding error by 1B, run scores (earned-ok), runners at 1st and 3rd
Fielder's choice, run scores (earned-wrong), runner at 1st
Triple, run scores (earned-wrong), runner at 3rd
Single, run scores (earned-wrong), runner at 1st
Out, inning over

4 runs, all scored as earned when only one should be

Perhaps because the guy who reached on the error was erased on a fielder's choice, the computer "forgets" the error, as it would if a player who reached on an error was thrown out stealing or erased on a double play?

Yossarian · 03-14-2002, 08:28 AM

Possibly even the first run should be unearned, since the scorer is supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the defense in determining when a runner would advance.

gbdmets · 03-14-2002, 08:56 AM

i think that whole half inning should be unearned runs

Scott Vibert · 03-14-2002, 09:04 AM

That would be correct on a grounder to first its very likely the runner wouldn't have advanced with one out, so I think all four should have been unearned. Markus fixed some of these in the patch to be released today. So lets see how the new patch does before we get upset about this scoring error....

mtw · 03-14-2002, 10:16 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Yossarian:
<strong>Possibly even the first run should be unearned, since the scorer is supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the defense in determining when a runner would advance.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Granted, but in OOTP, because the runners at 2nd and 3rd always advance on a ball fielded by the 1B (and C, at least in OOTP3--haven't paid attention to this in OOTP4), unless the IF is in, then I'm good with the one earned run. If the AI could be tweaked so that the 1B is playing halfway with a runner at third and the 1B has a chance of holding the runner at third or making a play at the plate, then that would make the game even more realistic and make the first run legitimately unearned.

03-14-2002, 06:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
mtw All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 653 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	Another ER misscoring I realize many of these have been posted, but as I see one I haven't yet noticed I'm going to post it regardless : Out Single Double, runners at 2nd and 3rd Fielding error by 1B, run scores (earned-ok), runners at 1st and 3rd Fielder's choice, run scores (earned-wrong), runner at 1st Triple, run scores (earned-wrong), runner at 3rd Single, run scores (earned-wrong), runner at 1st Out, inning over 4 runs, all scored as earned when only one should be Perhaps because the guy who reached on the error was erased on a fielder's choice, the computer "forgets" the error, as it would if a player who reached on an error was thrown out stealing or erased on a double play? __________________ Over-Zealous Apologist

03-14-2002, 10:16 AM	#5 (permalink)
mtw All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 653 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	[quote]Originally posted by Yossarian: <strong>Possibly even the first run should be unearned, since the scorer is supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the defense in determining when a runner would advance.</strong><hr></blockquote> Granted, but in OOTP, because the runners at 2nd and 3rd always advance on a ball fielded by the 1B (and C, at least in OOTP3--haven't paid attention to this in OOTP4), unless the IF is in, then I'm good with the one earned run. If the AI could be tweaked so that the 1B is playing halfway with a runner at third and the 1B has a chance of holding the runner at third or making a play at the plate, then that would make the game even more realistic and make the first run legitimately unearned. __________________ Over-Zealous Apologist

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03-14-2002, 08:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Yossarian Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Redondo Beach, CA Posts: 87 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Possibly even the first run should be unearned, since the scorer is supposed to give the benefit of the doubt to the defense in determining when a runner would advance.

03-14-2002, 08:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
gbdmets Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bayville,New Jersey Posts: 98 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	i think that whole half inning should be unearned runs

03-14-2002, 09:04 AM	#4 (permalink)
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 7,551 Thanks: 72 Thanked 48x in 30 posts	That would be correct on a grounder to first its very likely the runner wouldn't have advanced with one out, so I think all four should have been unearned. Markus fixed some of these in the patch to be released today. So lets see how the new patch does before we get upset about this scoring error....