Big League Experience, Minor League Contract

kserra · 03-09-2002, 01:29 PM

One of my pitchers, Joe Valentine, pitched in about 25 games in 2002. In 2003 he got beat out in Spring for a roster spot and spent the entire year in the minors.
Now in 2004, Valentine has a Minor League Contract again...he wasn't released and resigned...he's been on my team the entire time...any ideas?

I'm using Rolen's rosters...

Kevin

scefalu · 03-09-2002, 06:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by kserra:
<strong>One of my pitchers, Joe Valentine, pitched in about 25 games in 2002. In 2003 he got beat out in Spring for a roster spot and spent the entire year in the minors.
Now in 2004, Valentine has a Minor League Contract again...he wasn't released and resigned...he's been on my team the entire time...any ideas?</strong><hr></blockquote>

I have seen the same behavior in the game with some of my September call-ups. Once called-up, they get the minimum 100K contract. The following year, they're back to Minor League Contracts.

I think it's handled this way so that the minor leaguers up for a cup-o-joe get paid for their time in the majors.

IngredientX · 03-10-2002, 03:16 PM

This happened to one of my players. I'd bring him up for September and bring him back down before the end of the year. After he returned to AAA, his contract reverted to a minor league contract.

But now he's in the majors for an injured player, and I notice that because he's in his fifth year, his contract is listed in the "Possible Free Agents" window. So the contract doesn't reset just because the player is in the minors.

~Gil

Ryan W. · 03-11-2002, 05:47 AM

Actually happened to me in my current replay. Walter Johnson got hurt halfway through his rookie year (all of it spent in the majors), then languished in the Senators farm system for over 10 years! I think there is definitely a problem with how that is figured.

Scott Vibert · 03-11-2002, 09:36 AM

It sounds like you've found an exploit, I'll post this in the Beta forum so that it gets some extra attention.

Until then if you want to cheat you now know how to keep your players cheaper longer, promote them whenever, but make sure they finish the year in the minors.

hellfrozeover · 03-11-2002, 03:28 PM

Thanks for the info Scott, I'll be sure to screw the rest of the league and get my 79 mill payroll down to $0.

Kevin · 03-13-2002, 09:09 AM

Scott:
This has been around in one form or another since V2. For me it always happened if the player spent the entire final year of a major league contract in the minors with no call-ups, he automatically stayed with you on a minor league contract the following year.

Usually, I make a point of releasing them during the playoffs as a workaround.

03-09-2002, 01:29 PM	#1 (permalink)
kserra Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 91 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Big League Experience, Minor League Contract One of my pitchers, Joe Valentine, pitched in about 25 games in 2002. In 2003 he got beat out in Spring for a roster spot and spent the entire year in the minors. Now in 2004, Valentine has a Minor League Contract again...he wasn't released and resigned...he's been on my team the entire time...any ideas? I'm using Rolen's rosters... Kevin

03-09-2002, 06:57 PM	#2 (permalink)
scefalu Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 353 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	[quote]Originally posted by kserra: <strong>One of my pitchers, Joe Valentine, pitched in about 25 games in 2002. In 2003 he got beat out in Spring for a roster spot and spent the entire year in the minors. Now in 2004, Valentine has a Minor League Contract again...he wasn't released and resigned...he's been on my team the entire time...any ideas?</strong><hr></blockquote> I have seen the same behavior in the game with some of my September call-ups. Once called-up, they get the minimum 100K contract. The following year, they're back to Minor League Contracts. I think it's handled this way so that the minor leaguers up for a cup-o-joe get paid for their time in the majors. __________________ Shawn

03-10-2002, 03:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
IngredientX Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: New York Posts: 117 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	This happened to one of my players. I'd bring him up for September and bring him back down before the end of the year. After he returned to AAA, his contract reverted to a minor league contract. But now he's in the majors for an injured player, and I notice that because he's in his fifth year, his contract is listed in the "Possible Free Agents" window. So the contract doesn't reset just because the player is in the minors. ~Gil __________________ "Schopenhauer was right, wouldn't you say? 'Life without pain has no meaning.' Gentlemen, I wish to give your lives meaning."

03-11-2002, 03:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Thanks for the info Scott, I'll be sure to screw the rest of the league and get my 79 mill payroll down to $0. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

03-13-2002, 09:09 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kevin Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 478 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Scott: This has been around in one form or another since V2. For me it always happened if the player spent the entire final year of a major league contract in the minors with no call-ups, he automatically stayed with you on a minor league contract the following year. Usually, I make a point of releasing them during the playoffs as a workaround. __________________ It seems more like today than it did all day yesterday.

03-11-2002, 05:47 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ryan W. Jack of all trades Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Somewhere, not sure where. Maybe nearby, maybe far away. Posts: 920 Thanks: 12 Thanked 3x in 3 posts	Actually happened to me in my current replay. Walter Johnson got hurt halfway through his rookie year (all of it spent in the majors), then languished in the Senators farm system for over 10 years! I think there is definitely a problem with how that is figured.

03-11-2002, 09:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 7,551 Thanks: 72 Thanked 48x in 30 posts	It sounds like you've found an exploit, I'll post this in the Beta forum so that it gets some extra attention. Until then if you want to cheat you now know how to keep your players cheaper longer, promote them whenever, but make sure they finish the year in the minors.

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