In Playoffs, relief pitchers starting not the Starters

Riverdawg · 03-17-2002, 07:48 AM

I was right at the postseason part of my historical league which I started in 1982. I bought OOTP 4, and was about to start the postseasons when Version 4b came out this past week. I downloaded it and installed it. I played the 1st game of the Divisional Championships and went to sim the 2nd game. Well, my starter was Mike Witt (SP). When I went to look at the results of the game, my closer (Dave Beard) had started the game and pitched 6 innings. Well, I looked at his ratings and he had a SP duration of E but his role was set as Closer. Plus, Mike Witt had pitched 5 days earlier so I figured that the computer replaced Witt with Beard since Witt had pitched 5 days earlier. However, Witt was not tired.

Well, for game 3, I simmed again, and this time, my MR (Gene Walters) started the game instead of my #3 SP. Gene did not have a rating for SP and his role was Middle Reliever. Frustrated, I went and played game 4, and made sure my #3 SP started the game. I simmed the game once I was in it. This time my actual Starter started the game. I simmed game #5 and Gene Walter started the game again.

Frustrated, I went ahead and played game 6 and simmed once the game started. My team advanced to the World Series and I simmed the games once I was in the actual game.

Has anybody else reported this? Is there anything I can do to get around it? FYI-the computer controlled teams actually started their Starters and not Relievers. Although, in a 6 game series, Bruce Hurst started 3 times. Very interesting.

Greg

bkurtz · 03-17-2002, 07:52 AM

i thought that was fixed by the second 4.b patch.

Jah · 03-17-2002, 12:52 PM

I've seen this, too. Very disturbing.

Scott Vibert · 03-17-2002, 01:11 PM

Have you guys both seen this with the second release of the 4.0b patch? The date on the downloads page is March 17, (although I think it actually was released yesterday).

Get it from here:

<a href="http://www.ootp4.com/downloads.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.ootp4.com/downloads.shtml</a>

If this doesn't cure the problem please let us know.

BasicGuy · 03-17-2002, 09:08 PM

This Should not be happening....Markus should not have rereleased the same patch with bug fixes...Should of called the bug fix release 4.0c

Riverdawg · 03-18-2002, 07:50 AM

Markus is the MAN!!! Cool!!!

<a href="http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=001072" target="_blank">http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=001072</a>

His update to the patch fixes this problem.

Hornitos · 03-18-2002, 09:13 AM

yup that really makes me irritated. I feel that I spent 30 bucks on a beta that is still getting tuned

Hammer755 · 03-18-2002, 09:25 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Hornitos:
<strong>yup that really makes me irritated. I feel that I spent 30 bucks on a beta that is still getting tuned</strong><hr></blockquote>

First of all, this is definitely not beta. In fact, this problem arose due to tweaking the code for the second patch in 2 weeks. Feel lucky it is getting tuned, as opposed to EA or 3DO, which leave you with the game as-is, bugs and all.

Glen · 03-18-2002, 09:52 AM

Hornitos,

If you've ever beta tested software before, you would know that this game is way beyond that level.

Take a look at any good game on the market and you'll see that there is good feedback and support given to take care of issues that are found.

If you want to buy a Beta, pick up HH2k3. I can't even run that right on my Win 2k system. Basically, they're not supporting an OS that's 2 years old. Good work there. But, what do we get? On field coaches.... ooooohhhh.

Glen

03-17-2002, 07:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
Riverdawg Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Woodstock...not NY Posts: 186 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	In Playoffs, relief pitchers starting not the Starters I was right at the postseason part of my historical league which I started in 1982. I bought OOTP 4, and was about to start the postseasons when Version 4b came out this past week. I downloaded it and installed it. I played the 1st game of the Divisional Championships and went to sim the 2nd game. Well, my starter was Mike Witt (SP). When I went to look at the results of the game, my closer (Dave Beard) had started the game and pitched 6 innings. Well, I looked at his ratings and he had a SP duration of E but his role was set as Closer. Plus, Mike Witt had pitched 5 days earlier so I figured that the computer replaced Witt with Beard since Witt had pitched 5 days earlier. However, Witt was not tired. Well, for game 3, I simmed again, and this time, my MR (Gene Walters) started the game instead of my #3 SP. Gene did not have a rating for SP and his role was Middle Reliever. Frustrated, I went and played game 4, and made sure my #3 SP started the game. I simmed the game once I was in it. This time my actual Starter started the game. I simmed game #5 and Gene Walter started the game again. Frustrated, I went ahead and played game 6 and simmed once the game started. My team advanced to the World Series and I simmed the games once I was in the actual game. Has anybody else reported this? Is there anything I can do to get around it? FYI-the computer controlled teams actually started their Starters and not Relievers. Although, in a 6 game series, Bruce Hurst started 3 times. Very interesting. Greg __________________ "The ball didn't do its job. I did my job. The ball didn't do its job," - Coca Crisp comments after he dropped a routine fly ball during a home opener for the Cleveland Indians on April 12, 2004.

03-18-2002, 07:50 AM	#6 (permalink)
Riverdawg Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Woodstock...not NY Posts: 186 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Markus is the MAN!!! Cool!!! <a href="http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=001072" target="_blank">http://www.ootpbb.com/board/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic&f=11&t=001072</a> His update to the patch fixes this problem. __________________ "The ball didn't do its job. I did my job. The ball didn't do its job," - Coca Crisp comments after he dropped a routine fly ball during a home opener for the Cleveland Indians on April 12, 2004.

03-18-2002, 09:25 AM	#8 (permalink)
Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Warnings: 11 Posts: 2,345 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	[quote]Originally posted by Hornitos: <strong>yup that really makes me irritated. I feel that I spent 30 bucks on a beta that is still getting tuned</strong><hr></blockquote> First of all, this is definitely not beta. In fact, this problem arose due to tweaking the code for the second patch in 2 weeks. Feel lucky it is getting tuned, as opposed to EA or 3DO, which leave you with the game as-is, bugs and all. __________________

03-18-2002, 09:52 AM	#9 (permalink)
Glen Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 153 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Hornitos, If you've ever beta tested software before, you would know that this game is way beyond that level. Take a look at any good game on the market and you'll see that there is good feedback and support given to take care of issues that are found. If you want to buy a Beta, pick up HH2k3. I can't even run that right on my Win 2k system. Basically, they're not supporting an OS that's 2 years old. Good work there. But, what do we get? On field coaches.... ooooohhhh. Glen __________________ Colorado Rockies - DBLC

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03-17-2002, 07:52 AM	#2 (permalink)
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	i thought that was fixed by the second 4.b patch.

03-17-2002, 12:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
Jah Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 1 post	I've seen this, too. Very disturbing.

03-17-2002, 01:11 PM	#4 (permalink)
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 7,551 Thanks: 72 Thanked 48x in 30 posts	Have you guys both seen this with the second release of the 4.0b patch? The date on the downloads page is March 17, (although I think it actually was released yesterday). Get it from here: <a href="http://www.ootp4.com/downloads.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.ootp4.com/downloads.shtml</a> If this doesn't cure the problem please let us know.

03-17-2002, 09:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
BasicGuy Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ND Posts: 476 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1x in 1 post	This Should not be happening....Markus should not have rereleased the same patch with bug fixes...Should of called the bug fix release 4.0c

03-18-2002, 09:13 AM	#7 (permalink)
Hornitos Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	yup that really makes me irritated. I feel that I spent 30 bucks on a beta that is still getting tuned