can't sub pitcher

obaslg · 03-13-2002, 11:23 AM

Well, this time I wasn't thrown out of the game, but nonetheless, when my starter got tired after a rain delay, I warmed a guy up but couldn't put him in. Everything else was fine. Then I edited the starter to make him no longer tired, but he still appeared red. I couldn't tell if he suffered from fatigue, b/c he's a very good pitcher.

Scott Vibert · 03-13-2002, 11:26 AM

How did you try and enter the reliever, which of the two pitchers slots did you try and place him in (the top one or the one in the lineup)? Is there a chance you tried to put the pitcher in wrong spot? (Obviously if you have a DH there is only one slot)

bkurtz · 03-13-2002, 11:42 AM

could it be that cpu was managing subs?

obaslg · 03-13-2002, 02:14 PM

I had a DH, so I was taking him out of the first bullpen slot and placing him right on top of the current pitcher - the same thing I've always done. I had all the settings to me managing when I started - is there some way I could have accidentally changed that mid-game (though that would be unlikely)?

ukbldodgers · 03-14-2002, 12:42 AM

Don't know if this is related:
Playing as the Dodgers, in an interleague game. Came to substitute my starter, and there wasn't actually a visible 'currently pitching' line. However I managed to do the substitution by dragging the new pitcher to just above where it said 'Bullpen'

Later in the game I made some more substitutions and got in a position where I'd have really liked to put my DH in as a replacement 1B, but the game wouldn't let me, pointing out that the pitcher would have to bat. Hey, I'm managing a NL team, the pitchers are used to batting

, but I can see how it could cause problems for the game

Steve Kuffrey · 03-14-2002, 01:14 AM

If it is an interleague game and the DH team is home you play by their rules. Plus in the othe situation about subbing for the pitcher, in a DH game that is where you have to sub him to...just above the bullpen.

ukbldodgers · 03-14-2002, 01:43 AM

I have no problem with having to keep the DH in, just thought it slightly amusing that the reason given in the message from the game was that the pitcher would have had to hit, which isn't really a problem for NL teams.

As for the subbing, I recall V3 showing the current pitcher above the bullpen, but he wasn't shown when I was playing yesterday. I had to hit a spot that was basically just an extra thick line

obaslg · 03-19-2002, 06:24 AM

It happened again. I haven't tested it, but I think I know what it is. I suspect that it happens if you put a pitcher in while you're at bat (i.e., b/c you know you're changing pitchers and there's no reason to keep him warming up). After that, it seems, you can't sub for that pitcher. Maybe it has to do with the rule about facing one batter - the program never reads the sub pitcher as facing a batter for those purposes?

03-13-2002, 11:23 AM	#1 (permalink)
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 882 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	can't sub pitcher Well, this time I wasn't thrown out of the game, but nonetheless, when my starter got tired after a rain delay, I warmed a guy up but couldn't put him in. Everything else was fine. Then I edited the starter to make him no longer tired, but he still appeared red. I couldn't tell if he suffered from fatigue, b/c he's a very good pitcher. __________________ Realy good musition of many insterments, including the hyperbolic vitriol.

03-13-2002, 02:14 PM	#4 (permalink)
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 882 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I had a DH, so I was taking him out of the first bullpen slot and placing him right on top of the current pitcher - the same thing I've always done. I had all the settings to me managing when I started - is there some way I could have accidentally changed that mid-game (though that would be unlikely)? __________________ Realy good musition of many insterments, including the hyperbolic vitriol.

03-14-2002, 12:42 AM	#5 (permalink)
ukbldodgers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Don't know if this is related: Playing as the Dodgers, in an interleague game. Came to substitute my starter, and there wasn't actually a visible 'currently pitching' line. However I managed to do the substitution by dragging the new pitcher to just above where it said 'Bullpen' Later in the game I made some more substitutions and got in a position where I'd have really liked to put my DH in as a replacement 1B, but the game wouldn't let me, pointing out that the pitcher would have to bat. Hey, I'm managing a NL team, the pitchers are used to batting , but I can see how it could cause problems for the game __________________ Andy Brown

03-14-2002, 01:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 16,933 Thanks: 14 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	If it is an interleague game and the DH team is home you play by their rules. Plus in the othe situation about subbing for the pitcher, in a DH game that is where you have to sub him to...just above the bullpen. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays No longer an active league.

03-14-2002, 01:43 AM	#7 (permalink)
ukbldodgers Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I have no problem with having to keep the DH in, just thought it slightly amusing that the reason given in the message from the game was that the pitcher would have had to hit, which isn't really a problem for NL teams. As for the subbing, I recall V3 showing the current pitcher above the bullpen, but he wasn't shown when I was playing yesterday. I had to hit a spot that was basically just an extra thick line __________________ Andy Brown

03-13-2002, 11:26 AM	#2 (permalink)
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 7,551 Thanks: 72 Thanked 48x in 30 posts	How did you try and enter the reliever, which of the two pitchers slots did you try and place him in (the top one or the one in the lineup)? Is there a chance you tried to put the pitcher in wrong spot? (Obviously if you have a DH there is only one slot)

03-13-2002, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	could it be that cpu was managing subs?

03-19-2002, 06:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 882 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	It happened again. I haven't tested it, but I think I know what it is. I suspect that it happens if you put a pitcher in while you're at bat (i.e., b/c you know you're changing pitchers and there's no reason to keep him warming up). After that, it seems, you can't sub for that pitcher. Maybe it has to do with the rule about facing one batter - the program never reads the sub pitcher as facing a batter for those purposes? __________________ Realy good musition of many insterments, including the hyperbolic vitriol.

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