free agent or Arbitration

GeoWar · 04-29-2004, 06:07 PM

When reviewing a teams salary report and noting those for arbitration and possible free agents ---- signed the players that I felt I needed to ,,,, checked the arbitration eligible players and tried to sign the ones that were performing if they were not asking too much (or would get them back by arbitration) ...... but 2 of the players were listed as 5th year players and just as I feared --- lost them to free agency... the team salary report had said they were "arbitration" one did not like my organization , the other I signed but for more than he had asked for.

is this a bug ---- ???

holyroller · 04-29-2004, 07:30 PM

I have noticed the exact same thing. This is definitely the case. I'm not sure what is causing the specific players to be listed as arbitration eligible when they are, in fact, free agent eligible (I would guess that it is a problem with service time).

sporr · 04-30-2004, 10:11 AM

Yes, it is due to the service time.

holyroller · 05-01-2004, 06:07 PM

Do you know what the actual issue is sporr? I mean, is the game calculating different service time than the player salary report? That would make the most sense, but I'm curious if that is it or not.

sporr · 05-01-2004, 09:45 PM

Methinks that there is a slight problem with service time. A fellow tester suggested that since the default service time is 172 days while most baseball seasons are 180+ days, that some players may be accruing more than a year of service time each season causing problems when the game calculates eligibility. My guess is that one portion of the game is looking at seasons in the Majors while another is looking at the total accrued service time. My hope is that this will be fixed in an upcoming patch.

holyroller · 05-01-2004, 09:48 PM

Muchos gracias. In the meantime, I am going to advise my league member to ignore the salary report and assume that any player with 5 years experience is FA eligible.

GeoWar · 05-04-2004, 12:07 AM

That is what I have done with my 2 player league .

It cost my friend a pretty good pitcher.

Bald Eagles · 05-05-2004, 11:25 PM

I just got to the end of my first season in v6 using the default league. I played all games through April and May, and simmed weekly from June on. I noted that my setup man was projected to get $1.15M in arbitration. I was hoping to sign the arbitation-eligible players to smaller contracts, but none of them bit. I had a 2B complain that he wasn't happy with his playing time and wanted to "test the market". He's a fa at the end of this season, and he lost a lot of time for being on the DL the first two months. His backup ended up being better than expected so he got the starting job.

The setup man entered his 6th year of service the second week in September. After the regular season ended, I went to sign the 2B and noticed my setup man free agent eligible. Crap. So instead of getting him for $1.15M, I signed him to a 4 year extension worth $3.45M. The 2B is still ticked about his playing time. Put $20M as the amount and the options disappear, as if he hung up the phone on me.

Gotta love these new features!

BigBambino · 05-06-2004, 06:45 PM

I signed Nomar to a contract of 8.5 million for 4 years. But then at the end of the season, he was listed as a Free Agent! heres the funny side to this...HE SIGNED WITH THE NEW YORK YANKEES!

Jeter was traded to Chicago White Sox for Estaban Loaiza before the deadline.

04-29-2004, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
GeoWar Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 437 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1x in 1 post	free agent or Arbitration When reviewing a teams salary report and noting those for arbitration and possible free agents ---- signed the players that I felt I needed to ,,,, checked the arbitration eligible players and tried to sign the ones that were performing if they were not asking too much (or would get them back by arbitration) ...... but 2 of the players were listed as 5th year players and just as I feared --- lost them to free agency... the team salary report had said they were "arbitration" one did not like my organization , the other I signed but for more than he had asked for. is this a bug ---- ??? __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

04-29-2004, 07:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I have noticed the exact same thing. This is definitely the case. I'm not sure what is causing the specific players to be listed as arbitration eligible when they are, in fact, free agent eligible (I would guess that it is a problem with service time). __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

04-30-2004, 10:11 AM	#3 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35x in 2 posts	Yes, it is due to the service time. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

05-01-2004, 06:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Do you know what the actual issue is sporr? I mean, is the game calculating different service time than the player salary report? That would make the most sense, but I'm curious if that is it or not. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

05-01-2004, 09:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35x in 2 posts	Methinks that there is a slight problem with service time. A fellow tester suggested that since the default service time is 172 days while most baseball seasons are 180+ days, that some players may be accruing more than a year of service time each season causing problems when the game calculates eligibility. My guess is that one portion of the game is looking at seasons in the Majors while another is looking at the total accrued service time. My hope is that this will be fixed in an upcoming patch. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

05-01-2004, 09:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Muchos gracias. In the meantime, I am going to advise my league member to ignore the salary report and assume that any player with 5 years experience is FA eligible. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

05-04-2004, 12:07 AM	#7 (permalink)
GeoWar Major Leagues Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 437 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1x in 1 post	That is what I have done with my 2 player league . It cost my friend a pretty good pitcher. __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

05-05-2004, 11:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bald Eagles Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Waveland & Sheffield Posts: 402 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I just got to the end of my first season in v6 using the default league. I played all games through April and May, and simmed weekly from June on. I noted that my setup man was projected to get $1.15M in arbitration. I was hoping to sign the arbitation-eligible players to smaller contracts, but none of them bit. I had a 2B complain that he wasn't happy with his playing time and wanted to "test the market". He's a fa at the end of this season, and he lost a lot of time for being on the DL the first two months. His backup ended up being better than expected so he got the starting job. The setup man entered his 6th year of service the second week in September. After the regular season ended, I went to sign the 2B and noticed my setup man free agent eligible. Crap. So instead of getting him for $1.15M, I signed him to a 4 year extension worth $3.45M. The 2B is still ticked about his playing time. Put $20M as the amount and the options disappear, as if he hung up the phone on me. Gotta love these new features!

05-06-2004, 06:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
BigBambino All Star Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: Auburn, ME Posts: 1,315 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I signed Nomar to a contract of 8.5 million for 4 years. But then at the end of the season, he was listed as a Free Agent! heres the funny side to this...HE SIGNED WITH THE NEW YORK YANKEES! Jeter was traded to Chicago White Sox for Estaban Loaiza before the deadline.

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