Possible bug when player learns new position

draven085 · 06-08-2004, 03:15 PM

In the FIBB sim last night one of my minor league outfielders, Fermin Alicea, managed to learn to play CF while in A-ball. Alicea managed to learn the position with a 100 (on the 1-100 rating scale, obviously) rating despite the fact that he only rates a 14 in RF. This seems pretty off to me. This player is working backwards on the defensive scale and not only managed to learn the position, but he learned it at a level that would rival anyone in the history of baseball.

I wanted to make a note of it here in case no one else has seen anything like this.

Treches · 06-08-2004, 03:31 PM

I've seen that stuff happening very rarely in V5. Is this the only player?

draven085 · 06-08-2004, 10:54 PM

Apparently not. Another minor league player on the Havana club in the same league mysteriously sprouted a 100 in CF.

mtw · 06-09-2004, 01:23 AM

Just about to post on this very topic when I saw this thread.

It appears that every player who learns a new position during the season (as opposed to spring training) gets a rating of 100 for that position.

Treches · 06-09-2004, 05:09 AM

K, will post this on the beta forum

holyroller · 06-09-2004, 05:37 AM

Guh!

Skipaway · 06-09-2004, 06:12 AM

Apparently this suggestion was also inspired by the same problem:

How I wish defence worked

draven085 · 06-09-2004, 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mtw
It appears that every player who learns a new position during the season (as opposed to spring training) gets a rating of 100 for that position.

I'm fairly certain that its not every player. One on my top catching prospects in the same league took to 1B with a rating of oly 40. I was actually happy with that since most players who learned 1B in OOTP5 seemed to learn it with a rating of, dare I say it, "E".

mtw · 06-09-2004, 10:31 AM

The league I'm using is a converted OOTP5 league, if that makes a difference. In fact, only one player had a rating of 100 after converting my league from OOTP5-a SS on a team I controlled. Now there are 12 players with ratings of 100, all who were in the league prior to conversion. Also, only one of these players who added a 100 range played a position other than 1B, LF or RF--a 3B with a 45 range who now has 100 range at SS. Also, the 1B, LF and RF had ranges of 31 or less, and got 100 range at positions such as CF, 2B, 3B and SS.

I do not have anyone who has 100 range at C, 1B or RF, so maybe not every position benefits by the gift of 100 range when learning the position.

sporr · 06-09-2004, 11:07 AM

Just out of curiousity. Can the commish turn on the editor and report the actual fielding rating? I'm wondering if the rating is actually maxed out way above 100 in some kind of reverse rollover bug.

draven085 · 06-09-2004, 12:27 PM

I'll ask him to do that during our live sim tonight Mr. Orr.

draven085 · 06-11-2004, 08:04 AM

My commish checked Alicea's rating in CF, it was 250. We also had a couple of other players with the same problem. It seems fairly isolated, but three instances in one season is a bit worrysome.

sporr · 06-11-2004, 11:47 AM

Alright, that confirms what I thought. The formula that is used to give the player his new fielding rating is messed up and results in some infinitely large number. However, the max possible rating is 250, so that's what they get.

06-08-2004, 03:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,057 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Possible bug when player learns new position In the FIBB sim last night one of my minor league outfielders, Fermin Alicea, managed to learn to play CF while in A-ball. Alicea managed to learn the position with a 100 (on the 1-100 rating scale, obviously) rating despite the fact that he only rates a 14 in RF. This seems pretty off to me. This player is working backwards on the defensive scale and not only managed to learn the position, but he learned it at a level that would rival anyone in the history of baseball. I wanted to make a note of it here in case no one else has seen anything like this.

06-08-2004, 03:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Treches Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Damned Hell Posts: 2,148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts	I've seen that stuff happening very rarely in V5. Is this the only player? __________________ The Computer Baseball League

06-09-2004, 01:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
mtw All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 653 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	Just about to post on this very topic when I saw this thread. It appears that every player who learns a new position during the season (as opposed to spring training) gets a rating of 100 for that position. __________________ Over-Zealous Apologist

06-09-2004, 05:09 AM	#5 (permalink)
Treches Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Damned Hell Posts: 2,148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts	K, will post this on the beta forum __________________ The Computer Baseball League

06-09-2004, 05:37 AM	#6 (permalink)
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Guh! __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

06-08-2004, 10:54 PM	#3 (permalink)
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,057 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Apparently not. Another minor league player on the Havana club in the same league mysteriously sprouted a 100 in CF.

06-09-2004, 06:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,453 Thanks: 2 Thanked 49x in 40 posts	Apparently this suggestion was also inspired by the same problem: How I wish defence worked __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

06-09-2004, 10:31 AM	#9 (permalink)
mtw All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 653 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	The league I'm using is a converted OOTP5 league, if that makes a difference. In fact, only one player had a rating of 100 after converting my league from OOTP5-a SS on a team I controlled. Now there are 12 players with ratings of 100, all who were in the league prior to conversion. Also, only one of these players who added a 100 range played a position other than 1B, LF or RF--a 3B with a 45 range who now has 100 range at SS. Also, the 1B, LF and RF had ranges of 31 or less, and got 100 range at positions such as CF, 2B, 3B and SS. I do not have anyone who has 100 range at C, 1B or RF, so maybe not every position benefits by the gift of 100 range when learning the position. __________________ Over-Zealous Apologist

06-09-2004, 11:07 AM	#10 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35x in 2 posts	Just out of curiousity. Can the commish turn on the editor and report the actual fielding rating? I'm wondering if the rating is actually maxed out way above 100 in some kind of reverse rollover bug. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

06-09-2004, 12:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,057 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I'll ask him to do that during our live sim tonight Mr. Orr.

06-11-2004, 08:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,057 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	My commish checked Alicea's rating in CF, it was 250. We also had a couple of other players with the same problem. It seems fairly isolated, but three instances in one season is a bit worrysome.

06-11-2004, 11:47 AM	#13 (permalink)
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,275 Thanks: 2 Thanked 35x in 2 posts	Alright, that confirms what I thought. The formula that is used to give the player his new fielding rating is messed up and results in some infinitely large number. However, the max possible rating is 250, so that's what they get. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

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