This shouldn't be a save

Hammer · 08-10-2004, 03:43 PM

I don't know where to put this message, and I don't know if it is a bug or what. But anyways I just lost a game 5-3, my opponent brought their closer in to get the final out (which he did) and in the box score I saw he was credited with a save.

There wasn't anybody on base and the tying run was still in the on-deck circle. He shouldn't have been given a save because 1) he did not get the last 3 outs and 2) the batter he got out wouldn't even have given me the lead if he was to homer.

Steve Kuffrey · 08-10-2004, 03:46 PM

I believe that if the tying run is on the top step of the dugout(batter AFTER the on-deck hitter) that a save can be awarded.

gmo · 08-10-2004, 03:47 PM

Steve is right. Copied this from a Draft Dodger post in a save thread a few days back:

"Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions: (1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and (2) He is not the winning pitcher; and (3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions: (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces); or (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game."

Hammer · 08-10-2004, 04:34 PM

Thanks for clearing that up

08-10-2004, 03:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
Hammer Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Horicon, Wi Posts: 330 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	This shouldn't be a save I don't know where to put this message, and I don't know if it is a bug or what. But anyways I just lost a game 5-3, my opponent brought their closer in to get the final out (which he did) and in the box score I saw he was credited with a save. There wasn't anybody on base and the tying run was still in the on-deck circle. He shouldn't have been given a save because 1) he did not get the last 3 outs and 2) the batter he got out wouldn't even have given me the lead if he was to homer.

08-10-2004, 03:46 PM	#2 (permalink)
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 16,933 Thanks: 14 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	I believe that if the tying run is on the top step of the dugout(batter AFTER the on-deck hitter) that a save can be awarded. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays No longer an active league.

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08-10-2004, 03:47 PM	#3 (permalink)
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Grand Forks, ND Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 0 Thanked 83x in 46 posts	Steve is right. Copied this from a Draft Dodger post in a save thread a few days back: "Credit a pitcher with a save when he meets all three of the following conditions: (1) He is the finishing pitcher in a game won by his club; and (2) He is not the winning pitcher; and (3) He qualifies under one of the following conditions: (a) He enters the game with a lead of no more than three runs and pitches for at least one inning; or (b) He enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, or at bat, or on deck (that is, the potential tying run is either already on base or is one of the first two batsmen he faces); or (c) He pitches effectively for at least three innings. No more than one save may be credited in each game."

08-10-2004, 04:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
Hammer Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Horicon, Wi Posts: 330 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Thanks for clearing that up