1 game playoff

jazzrack · 08-14-2004, 07:24 PM

The CLB had 2 teams in the same division end tied, instead of the game having a 1 game playoff to see who the division winner was it, gave it to a team. Am I wrong in thinking that it should have been a 1 game playoff instead?

jmm8356 · 08-14-2004, 07:31 PM

Depends. If the "other" team is going to be the wild card, in R/L they don't play a playoff and use tiebreakers instead. (head to head, divisional record, etc.)

Somebody mentioned a similar problem a few days ago, though... so two questions:

1) Does the league have wild cards?

2) Was the non-pennant winning team the wild card that year?

jazzrack · 08-14-2004, 07:32 PM

sorry, i didn't see the other thread.

jazzrack · 08-14-2004, 07:32 PM

we do have the WC, and no the "losing team" did not get the WC spot.

another strange thing was 2 teams in a different division had a 1 game playoff when neither team was in the hunt for a WC spot or Division crown.

jmm8356 · 08-14-2004, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jazzrack

sorry, i didn't see the other thread.

That's okay, I could have just clicked twice from your signature to get the answers to my questions.

Anyway, it sounds like OOTP fudges the tiebreaking procedures a bit in leagues with a wild card. It always uses tiebreakers rather than a playoff, even when one of the teams will miss the postseason due to a tiebreaker.

Must be one of those "design decisions" to use an "abstraction" of the real life system...

jazzrack · 08-14-2004, 07:45 PM

I guess we were ASSUMINg that we would have a 1 game playoff, and after all the drama we had to close the season. 2 races were being decided on the final day, 1 game involed both team in the WC race (that one went 19 innings, and we broadcast that one. That was GREAT drama) It was just a letdown to not have that 1 game playoff.

jmm8356 · 08-14-2004, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazzrack

we do have the WC, and no the "losing team" did not get the WC spot.

another strange thing was 2 teams in a different division had a 1 game playoff when neither team was in the hunt for a WC spot or Division crown.

That... is odd. Maybe the logic is reversed... as in:

IF [tied teams are not in contention] THEN schedule playoff ELSE do not schedule playoff

Seems like this should have come up before now, though...

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jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 2,098 Thanks: 9 Thanked 34x in 21 posts	1 game playoff The CLB had 2 teams in the same division end tied, instead of the game having a 1 game playoff to see who the division winner was it, gave it to a team. Am I wrong in thinking that it should have been a 1 game playoff instead? __________________ Corporate League Baseball is back! teams avail! "Toleration is not the opposite of intolerance but the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms: the one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, the other of granting it." (Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man, p. 58. "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children." -Albert Shanker, President, American Federation of Teachers

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jmm8356 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Tonawanda NY Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 205 Thanked 33x in 21 posts	Depends. If the "other" team is going to be the wild card, in R/L they don't play a playoff and use tiebreakers instead. (head to head, divisional record, etc.) Somebody mentioned a similar problem a few days ago, though... so two questions: 1) Does the league have wild cards? 2) Was the non-pennant winning team the wild card that year? __________________ Jeremy from Tonawanda --- Go Cubbies! --- Unofficial Theta Tester(tm) "Oh, we got both kinds. We got country and western!" From OOTP 6: Designated for Assignment FAQ (Includes both problems and solutions! Ooooo! )

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jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 2,098 Thanks: 9 Thanked 34x in 21 posts	sorry, i didn't see the other thread. __________________ Corporate League Baseball is back! teams avail! "Toleration is not the opposite of intolerance but the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms: the one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, the other of granting it." (Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man, p. 58. "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children." -Albert Shanker, President, American Federation of Teachers

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jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 2,098 Thanks: 9 Thanked 34x in 21 posts	we do have the WC, and no the "losing team" did not get the WC spot. another strange thing was 2 teams in a different division had a 1 game playoff when neither team was in the hunt for a WC spot or Division crown. __________________ Corporate League Baseball is back! teams avail! "Toleration is not the opposite of intolerance but the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms: the one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, the other of granting it." (Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man, p. 58. "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children." -Albert Shanker, President, American Federation of Teachers Last edited by jazzrack; 08-14-2004 at 07:34 PM.

08-14-2004, 07:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 2,098 Thanks: 9 Thanked 34x in 21 posts	I guess we were ASSUMINg that we would have a 1 game playoff, and after all the drama we had to close the season. 2 races were being decided on the final day, 1 game involed both team in the WC race (that one went 19 innings, and we broadcast that one. That was GREAT drama) It was just a letdown to not have that 1 game playoff. __________________ Corporate League Baseball is back! teams avail! "Toleration is not the opposite of intolerance but the counterfeit of it. Both are despotisms: the one assumes to itself the right of withholding liberty of conscience, the other of granting it." (Thomas Paine, The Rights of Man, p. 58. "When school children start paying union dues, that's when I'll start representing the interests of school children." -Albert Shanker, President, American Federation of Teachers

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