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Old 12-27-2012, 03:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How are players careers represented?

I plan on recreating a league from my youth that started with a board and dice game, the name I can't remember( not strat-o-matic) and then went over to APBA. I still have my notebook with rosters and team stats and plan to pick up where I left off with the 1979-1980 season. In the other games you got a "fresh" player card based on that season. It seems to me after reading through the forum, the players are more of a snap shot of their careers.

Using Joe Mullen as an example, he was signed as a free agent in August of 1979 but appeared in just one playoff game and didnt reappear as a regular until a season and 1/2 later. If one of my teams signed him, would he be available to play in my league? If I am interperting what I am reading correctly, he could play as the early career Joe Mullen or will he sit in reserves until his call up? I would also like to know what happens to someone like Phil Esposito who retires midway through the 80-81 season, will he retire or become ineligable at that point of my 80-81 season?

My question apply to injuries as well. Are they year specific or is it based on a percentage of games missed over a career?

The other hockey games I played counted on a new card based on a specfic season, based on what I am reading here it is more based on a players cumulative totals not the season you are currently playing-is this assumption correct?
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I plan on recreating a league from my youth that started with a board and dice game, the name I can't remember( not strat-o-matic)
Probably either Statis-Pro Hockey or The World's Greatest Hockey Game, if it was the late 70's.

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Using Joe Mullen as an example, he was signed as a free agent in August of 1979 but appeared in just one playoff game and didnt reappear as a regular until a season and 1/2 later. If one of my teams signed him, would he be available to play in my league? If I am interperting what I am reading correctly, he could play as the early career Joe Mullen or will he sit in reserves until his call up?
Depending on the options you select, Mullen will either appear as a 17-year-old in the 1974 offseason or a 22-year-old in 1979 (i.e., when he actually became property of an NHL team.) If he comes in at 17 and you're playing with a draft and using historically-correct draft rules (i.e., only 20-year-olds at that time), he'd be present in the game but not draftable until 1977. So you could conceivably play him in 1977 at the earliest (unless you want to change the league rules to allow under-20 players in the NHL in that era, in which case you could get him sooner.)

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I would also like to know what happens to someone like Phil Esposito who retires midway through the 80-81 season, will he retire or become ineligable at that point of my 80-81 season?
You can choose whether or not to retire players at the proper historical time, so he could conceivably play beyond 80-81, but even if you had it set to real-life career end dates, he can finish 80-81. No mid-season ends to careers unless the player gets a random career-ending injury.

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My question apply to injuries as well. Are they year specific or is it based on a percentage of games missed over a career?
No year-specific injuries. The players will have an injury proneness rating that affects how often they get hurt, but most of them will probably get a generic average rating in the first version of the database, except for ones that were noted for being really durable (Unger, Hall, etc.) or fragile (Orr, Lindros, etc.)

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The other hockey games I played counted on a new card based on a specfic season, based on what I am reading here it is more based on a players cumulative totals not the season you are currently playing-is this assumption correct?
Not exactly. Basically, a player gets a set of ratings based on how good they were in their prime ('prime' typically, but by no means always, being 3-5 seasons long), and then a set of dates that determine when he reaches the beginning, pre-prime, prime, post-prime, and end stages of his career. So using Mullen as an example, he starts in 1974, pre-prime in 1977 (his first season in the CHL), prime in 1981 (since he was scoring at a 100+ point pace right from the start of his NHL career), post-prime in 1992 (when his scoring dropped off a bit from the peak and never came back), and end in 1996 (I don't think I'll count the three international games he played in 98-99 as still being active.) So he'll get to use his prime ratings for a very long period, 81-82 through 91-82, and in the others years they'll be reduced by various amounts.
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[QUOTE=JeffR;3424401]Probably either Statis-Pro Hockey or The World's Greatest Hockey Game, if it was the late 70's.



Thanks for all the info. I searched the game I was referencing. It was simply called Pro Hockey by Table Games Co. The site said it came out in 1970 but they must have released cards every year and repackaged the game. The players I created my solitaire league were mid 70's and up. It was very much like APBA only simpler.
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Thanks for all the info. I searched the game I was referencing. It was simply called Pro Hockey by Table Games Co. The site said it came out in 1970 but they must have released cards every year and repackaged the game. The players I created my solitaire league were mid 70's and up. It was very much like APBA only simpler.
Interesting, I hadn't heard of that one but after looking at the pictures of it on boardgamegeek some of the components seem oddly familiar. I'll have to keep an eye out on ebay.
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Interesting, I hadn't heard of that one but after looking at the pictures of it on boardgamegeek some of the components seem oddly familiar. I'll have to keep an eye out on ebay.
That is where I found it, it wasn't easy since I didnt remeber the name and the name being so generic.The player cards were updated in the version I had, there were assist and penalty ranges on the cards. I need to look I am sure my copy is still at my parents somewhere buried in a closet. Thank you again for taking the time to answer some questions.
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