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FaceGen - A suggestion from a FaceGen maker
My suggestion, after seeing pictures from the NHL draft, would be to use a hockey sweater and baseball cap in the game. The baseball cap would mask the lack of hair and the SI watermark just like in OOTP. Seems like a better fit than a helmet to me because the goalies would just look odd in a skater's helmet in my opinion.
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Personally, I hope they opt for doing hair in some way.
Helmets would look strange, especially, like you point out, on goalies. But I think hats would look very out-of-place, and even come off as lazy since this is coming from a baseball game. I'm sure doing some kind of "HairGen" and a way of hiding the SI logo would be more work, but it'd give us the most proper result. Last edited by Stinson; 03-06-2013 at 08:42 PM. |
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A LOT more fake. Plus, the SI logo is going to be a problem. The only way to remove it is to create the face using the paid version. Which rules out the idea of the average user ever being able to make FaceGens. If I am understanding things correctly, FaceGen needs to be user-created because of copy-rights. Not many people are going to shell out 600 dollars in order to make mods for the game.
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As much as I hate to go into that area but there are ways to do things to get it done, it just cannot be official
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newly drafted players until they play their first nhl game with a baseball cap would be fine but otherwise it would look very out of place. With that said if it can't be done right what's the point of doing it all? It would do more harm then good. Remove the faces and just allow jerseys or get the lisence. Baseball caps and helmets are not the answer.
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I have to disagree. I'm not sure what hair mods you're referring to, but Football Manager has been pulling it off pretty well for years. Sure, you get some goofy looking hair sometimes, but it's still believable enough.
In the end, I agree with Dave - if it can't be done properly, then it's probably best not to do it at all. I love the facegen, but it's going to need a lot of re-tooling before it fits properly with a hockey game. Because, I'd hate to say it, but I don't think baseball caps should even be in the question; they just wouldn't make any sense, and again, would probably even make FHM look like a lazy port of OOTP. |
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This means, without some kind of head gear, the only people who could create FaceGens for FHM would be someone with a paid version of the software. The whole beauty of OOTP's FaceGEN is the fact that anyone has the ability to create them and that's how the sets that are available are as complete as they are. |
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Then, just create another overlay of some kind that lays a skin-colored patch over the SI logo, and you should have a FaceGen. If that's too complicated, or simply doesn't work, then I think we can all agree that what works for a baseball game isn't necessarily going to work for a hockey game, and a new, proper, solution should be sought out. |
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I also don't know how easy it would be to have multiple hair styles? I am pretty sure that's why OOTP has never done anything officially with hair. Last edited by qcbandits; 03-06-2013 at 11:52 PM. |
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Hockey FaceGens are gonna be fun to do Players smile less than their baseball counterparts and with pics being taken indoors, there is no sun or shadows making the lighting messed up. Plus I can't even begin to say how much I love the fact that there are no hats pulled down to the edge of the eye These are the things that drive me crazy about baseball FaceGens, the ones for FHM are gonna come out VERY VERY nice!!! |
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Are the FaceGens in OOTP png files?
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Have them wear helmets.
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Jerseys and hats are .PNG
the actual FaceGens are .FG I am having a ball working on some early files Sebastian needs to implement FaceGen soon in the game. Even if there is no way to create fictional faces in the game yet, I wanna see how the ones I'm making will look I have another possible head gear solution, back in the day, I used to work as a front office intern for the AHL's Peoria Rivermen. The players used to wear team stocking caps ALL the time. This would once again be a simple solution to covering the watermark and not having to worry about realistic hair. |
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But having used FaceGen now for a while in OOTP, it would be hard to not have it for me, the added immersion factor is very very high. Yeah, I am really liking the stocking cap idea too, the more I think about it. Easy to put together for anyone who wants to great them. Come up with a simple template and change to team colors and possibly add a team logo. To JeffR or Sebastian.. Is Andreas helping implement FaceGen for you guys? OOTP is just now getting the ability to have more than one jersey, this would be cool in FHM as well |
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The stocking caps thing isn't a bad idea, but might seem weird when EVERYBODY is wearing them. If we can't do just hair, then helmets are the only way to go. For goalies, perhaps a custom hat layer for goalie masks? Is it possible to have two different "hat layers" on the facegen images, one for skaters and one for netminders?
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Helmets just don't seem right to me, because of the goalies. seeing a goalie wearing a regular helmet is weird and I'm not sure how easy separate helmet types would be to do?? |
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