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Old 08-27-2013, 08:32 PM   #1
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Version 0.9.68 Game Update Now Available (PC Only - Mac tomorrow)

Our newest game update, Version 0.9.68, is now available, including a data update.

You can download the new version at:

(PC) FHM - Update 0.9.68

Unfortunately, the Mac version will not be ready tonight. It's done, but we're having problems getting the eSellerate activation to work on it, which leaves the game unplayable, and it won't be possible to troubleshoot that properly until the morning. I'll keep you posted about our progress with that.

PC Installation instructions: After you download the file just install it over your existing game (you don't need to uninstall the old version first.) Make sure to select the correct path to your game if needed.

After installation, the game should display "Version 0.9, BETA Build 68" at the bottom of the statup screen; if it shows a different build number, you'll need to re-download and reinstall (and before doing so, make sure the update file you downloaded has been deleted and your browser cache cleared.)

Note that if you decide to uninstall and reinstall, you should first release one of your licenses via Preferences-License on the start screen.

Saves from earlier versions are not compatible with this version!


Changes/Fixes/Additions:

*** Comments ***

I'm just going to go with a list of the major changes this time, rather than a list of every fix. A lot of what we've been doing has involved a big change followed by incremental work refining it, so a huge chunk of the log would be fixes to problems you never got to see (aside from the ones in the accidental 0.9.59 release - again, sorry about that.)

Underpinning most of the AI changes is a new 10-point rating system, replacing the old OOTP-style five stars. Generally, players rated between 8 and 10 should form the core of your top two lines and defensive pairs, while those rated 6 to 8 fill the remaining roster spots, and those lower than 6 are, at best, useful as short-term replacements. As with the stars, the scale is always relative to the level you're currently at (if you're unemployed, it defaults to NHL-level.) So if you're playing with a team in the ECHL and look at an NHL roster, most of the players you see will be star-caliber by your league's standards (including, potentially, ratings higher than 10.0 - there's no cap on the top end of the scale.)

Keep in mind that it's not just a straight-line conversion of ratings to an arbitrary scale - to reach the 'first-line' levels of the scale players need skills that are relevant for the top lines (i.e., offense is weighted heavily), while getting a rating near the top of the ratings group associated with the bottom half of the roster requires more defensive skills and intangibles. That way, for example, a one-dimensional offensive forward who isn't good enough for the top 6 tends to drop right off the roster instead of getting a third- or fourth-line job - the "Keith Aucoin" effect. Finally, there's a special "goon bonus" for enforcer-type players that increases their ratings to a level where the AI will treat them realistically (the game lineup AI isn't doing that yet, though - that's coming as part of the game engine work this week.)

At the start of the game, most of the ratings you see will be fairly accurate representations of player skill. But newly-generated players can have significantly inflated or deflated apparent value. That's where your scouts come in: assigning them to a geographical area (particularly if they're from that area themselves) will reduce or eliminate the effects of inaccurate information about players in that area. (The geographical areas have also been significantly simplified.) I'll be elaborating on that in a systems discussion later this week.

The cap rules now allow the accumulation of cap space as in the NHL. We've presented this in what we think is the easiest-to-understand way, by showing your cap limit as an amount that will gradually increase during the season if you stay under it. That way, you can easily see exactly how much cap hit you can take on via a trade or free agent signing (rather than having to do a bunch of math with daily payrolls and remaining cap room.)

AI teams now have a more logical approach to cap management if they find themselves over the limit, instead of dumping half their roster if they need to make space. They'll try to resolve the problem by sending players down first, but if that fails they'll try to move their lowest-valued high-salary players to another team for a draft pick or picks. There are still some teams taking radical steps to get under the cap, but at least now they're not ditching half their roster. The ultimate source of the difficulties is the new CBA rule that deters minor-league salary dumps - when the largest amount of cap space you can gain via sending someone down is $375,000, that severely limits your options and makes writing cap-management AI much more complicated. We've also got multiple NHL rosters that are currently taking advantage of the 10% off-season cap cushion, but will need to be cut down somehow when the season starts.

The AI's trading logic has been completely overhauled, and trades between AI teams will now occur at realistic rates and times (more of them at the deadline, for example) and be significantly more varied in composition than they were before. I'm still not seeing as many draft picks moved as I'd like, so I suspect something's off in the way they're valued (also via a new method, one that takes into account the strength of the draft class), we'll be investigating that further. It also tends to overvalue older players.

AI teams should also evaluate your trade offers a little better; among other things, your trading partner will now specifically say if he's refusing the trade because you're giving him more salary than he can afford, which will let you remove some players or take salary back to fix the deal.

For now, AI teams will only make offers to you for players that you've put on the trading block (and those offers should come at a fairly dependable, but not annoying, rate.)

It's now possible for teams in leagues that allow soccer-style transfers to purchase players from other such teams; right now, this is mainly enabled in the European leagues. At the moment, pending better data on how much cash actually changes hands in these transactions, typical transfer costs will be an amount around 90% of the player's annual salary. Both the player and AI can make these deals.

Some loopholes in free agency that allowed the signing of ineligible players (other teams' draftees, underage players, etc.) have been closed; you now should only be able to open the offer screen for a player if it's possible to sign him.

Players who are RFA's on the expiration of their contracts should now be properly designated at the start of the game, but there still appear to be some issues with the AI's qualification-offer logic.

The historical database is now complete through the 2008-09 season. I also spent some time today making a few changes that will model high-PIM players more accurately. On the downside, the new trade engine isn't working in historical mode yet, but that's coming.

The match engine now includes more varied text for shot and faceoff events; there'll be a lot more coming, but you can see the basic outline of how it'll work - we just need to add the text triggers to things that are already occurring in the game, but not being reflected in the text (e.g., all the giveaways, takeaways, hits, penalties, etc. that you see in the stats.)

The new researchers are getting up to speed and there's been much more editing activity in the last three weeks. That'll continue post-release, we'll be working continuously on the database and posting regular updates.

YZG continues to add to the player name-generation files, we're gradually taking advantage of the new naming-by-state ability to get more accurate regional names.

The Norwegian GET-Ligaen is now playable; thanks to Gorane, our new Norwegian researcher, for his work there. We have a couple more leagues that are very close to being ready for playable status, but those will come post-release, since there's not enough time to test them properly right now. And there are more that will follow them as the research gets completed.

Various crash bugs have been fixed, although we discovered a new source (or sources, rather) of lineup corruption today that may take a few attempts to eradicate completely. The good news is, it doesn't tend to produce repeatable crashes, so if you get one (typically in November-December) you can usually progress through it on the next attempt.

***What's Left***

With a week to go, the three areas we're going to be concentrating one are the full implementation of custom play, adjusting several things in the match engine to improve stats generation for star players and defencemen and increase the effects of toughness and leadership, and getting facegen working. Those items are already in various stages of completion, but weren't suitable for inclusion in this update in a partial state.

Facegen ran into an aesthetics problem: when you take the baseball caps off OOTP's players and replace them with the hair options we have available, the results vary from funny to hideous, leaning towards the latter. So for now facegen players will get draft-day style portraits, with the ballcap on. (Update 8/27: I wrote that last night, and with today's delays and the amount of time needed to get the necessary art assets finished, it's looking like facegen is the top candidate to slide past the release date. Since it's cosmetic, I think it makes the most sense to cut there rather than lose func

The match engine work will also include some non-stat fixes, including, I hope, the return of the shot view screen (it'll be viewable by clicking items on the highlights list.) We'll also be recording some additional stats, including things that will allow us to calculate Corsi/Fenwick - you can see the beginnings of this in the bottom section of the player season stats screen, with some dummy values (PDO is there and calculated correctly, though.)

See the description of custom mode I posted a few days ago for the outline of what we'll be doing there.

Aside from those big-ticket items, we'll be continuing the usual database work and have time blocked off before the deadline to deal with last-minute issues, particularly stability-related ones. Sebastian worked out something today that will make one category of crash bug a little easier to find, so that should help on that front.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:35 PM   #2
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awesome! Can't wait to try it. Going to have to wait until after work tomorrow though.

Gorane, thanks for the research of the Norway league!
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:35 PM   #3
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thank you jeff .. and the game will be release witch date ???
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:40 PM   #4
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thank you jeff .. and the game will be release witch date ???
September 3. Planned time right now is late afternoon in Europe/morning in North America.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:46 PM   #5
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poor mac users.......
Put on a sad face. I will have to wait one more day.
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:46 PM   #6
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Old 08-27-2013, 08:51 PM   #7
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will we be getting the ability to play as more than one GM?

Can't be much help here as I quit the screen but I received an error looking at Greg McKegg of the Maple Leafs...said something about picture not found and wouldn't allow me to click "Ok" . Since then I closed it and haven't come across the error again.

An interesting idea with the ratings is does the players "Ability" change based on his role on the team? That would be cool to see in a second version where you change a top scorer who has somewhat lost it to a depth 3-4th liner - his ability wouldn't change instantly, it would change if he is able to fit into that new role on the team so he can be a 7.5 again. This system could very much grow more dynamic as more versions come out, it will be interesting to learn more about it.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:03 PM   #8
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That's where your scouts come in: assigning them to a geographical area (particularly if they're from that area themselves) will reduce or eliminate the effects of inaccurate information about players in that area. (The geographical areas have also been significantly simplified.) I'll be elaborating on that in a systems discussion later this week.
As someone who actually misses the old (before OOTP9) OOTP scouting system, I am so happy this is in FHM.
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will we be getting the ability to play as more than one GM?
When we add online/multiplayer in the first major patch, yes.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:26 PM   #10
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When we add online/multiplayer in the first major patch, yes.
No, you misunderstood. I would like to play offline and be the GM of an NHL team and create another GM and be in control of the OHL in the same game. Just like we can control multiple GMs in ootp of EHM.
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No, you misunderstood. I would like to play offline and be the GM of an NHL team and create another GM and be in control of the OHL in the same game. Just like we can control multiple GMs in ootp of EHM.
Having more than one GM "human controlled" is "multiplayer" (whether it's multiple humans or one human controlling the more the than one in-game GM)
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Having more than one GM "human controlled" is "multiplayer" (whether it's multiple humans or one human controlling the more the than one in-game GM)
Ok, guess it was just me that misunderstood then thanks for clearing that one up.
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Saves from earlier versions are not compatible with this version!
A little bummed about this, already over it though...

It does beg the question, will saves from this version be compatible with the official release?

I'm sure it's speculative at this point, especially while still in beta, but I just want to know how invested I should get in a new save.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:43 PM   #14
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I'm glad to see the word Draft Picks In a NHL Trade but not seeing Prospects or team giving more then one person so have people seen them yet? Also seeing NHL Teams Trade with other Leagues or being Able to add Leagues existing 2013-14 like let's say in 2015 or a Fictional League or created League we made and saved it as a Template?

I won't get to check intill tomorrow when I turn on my Computer and download it but for any who has tried it is League Structure and so on that was not turned on or Disable on know? Also have you noticed League E. happening like the Computer expanding or relocating a Team because new Owner decides to move them or contract is up with Minor League team and doesn't want renew it or like Red Wings wants add Kalmazzo Tigers of Great Lakes League or a League Rule is being change by the Computer. Also if any s having the Assistant makes Trades for you are they?

Why can't we use saved games from pasted versions yet because I don't like to have to reload Real League and Team Logos every time install latest Patch so I suggest ask do you want over write existing ones and release all Players to Free-Agent Market then I could Drafted by Team faster.
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Old 08-27-2013, 09:44 PM   #15
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eveyrthing gonna be up in same time ? your not affraid they dont work ? and create lot of bugs ?
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Everything seemed fine with the trade AI until the beginning of the regular season (except for the fact the AI seems to overvalue older players - ie Saku Koivu for Milan Lucic and Michal Handzus for James Reimer), where one day randomly produced a bunch of trades involving single players and draft picks. The following players were all traded on that day each for a late round draft pick:

Brandon Prust
Luke Schenn
Carl Hagelin
Nick Foligno
Ryan Malone

And there were a few others I believe. Maybe this has something to do with teams trying to get under the cap for the beginning of the regular season?
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Like James Reimer and Brayden Schenn for Seiman,Carrier,Kris Russell,2nd Round Pick in 2014,3rd Round Pick in 2016,Beach and 2014 1st Round Pick is what I'm talking about. It's a good Trade but haven't I seen that in the Game not for NHL yet only for like Overseas or other Leagues and in real Life the Blues wouldn't do that because don't need another Veteran Goalie.
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Poor Mac

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Love reading about the changes. Shows you actually care and know how things should be (as opposed to say EA's "Here's our lackluster, bug-laden GM mode with completely illogical AI and systems. Problems? We don't care" attitude).
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Game Not Responding

Downloaded the update as per instructions and attempted to start in Historical mode. Game froze at the 7% mark while generating attributes. Tried this several times. Game freezes up at same spot. Had to force quit game each time. Not sure what to do at this point.
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