OOTP vs. Baseball Mogul & other sims...

DanielW4444 · 12-20-2005, 01:17 AM

I'm probably gonna buy one of these next year and I was wondering which one has the most complete player development system. The game that has the best scouting, drafting and developing prospects and stuff.

Thanks for your time

darkhorse · 12-20-2005, 01:38 AM

OOTP has no real competition in the baseball text sim market.

This game is pretty solid.

http://www.puresim.com/

kq76 · 12-20-2005, 02:26 AM

With OOTP seemingly comfortable with its lead, I don't feel they made a whole lot of progress in the last couple of years (others will disagree, I'm sure). Meanwhile, IMO Puresim had been making great strides and seemed to actually have OOTP in its sights. Now, with the complete rewrite of OOTP and being able to get a good look at SI's library of code for CM/FM, I expect that the upcoming OOTPBM2006 will take a huge step forward and once again put itself far ahead of the competition. If you're only going to buy one of these games, I'd recommend you put your money on OOTPBM2006. I'd definitely recommend trying Puresim's demo though (see DH's link above).

If you do a search here you'll find some reviews of the other games and comparisons to OOTP, including one by myself. Just make sure to take the dates of the posts into consideration as some points might be out-of-date.

LeiterFanatic · 12-20-2005, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

With OOTP seemingly comfortable with its lead, I don't feel they made a whole lot of progress in the last couple of years (others will disagree, I'm sure). Meanwhile, IMO Puresim had been making great strides and seemed to actually have OOTP in its sights. Now, with the complete rewrite of OOTP and being able to get a good look at SI's library of code for CM/FM, I expect that the upcoming OOTPBM2006 will take a huge step forward and once again put itself far ahead of the competition. If you're only going to buy one of these games, I'd recommend you put your money on OOTPBM2006. I'd definitely recommend trying Puresim's demo though (see DH's link above).

If you do a search here you'll find some reviews of the other games and comparisons to OOTP, including one by myself. Just make sure to take the dates of the posts into consideration as some points might be out-of-date.

I was going to reply but he said everything I would have. I think Puresim has improved tremendously while OOTP6, 6.51 etc . is mostly version 5 redone and tweaked. I also think OOTPBM06 will be an entirely new animal and better, if FM06 is any guide.

edddgar · 12-20-2005, 09:19 AM

I was in a mogul sim for about a total of two sims, it was far from OOTP.

Russ · 12-20-2005, 09:43 AM

Yeah, the only one even close is PureSim. Shaun Sullivan is doing some good things over there. But, for my money OOTP is the best. And if you play any of the other SI games (EHM or FM), you know that OOTPBM is going to blow away all the previous versions and the competition.

RchW · 12-20-2005, 10:27 AM

I find Puresim's interface really thick and difficult to navigate. I could never maintain my interest in the detail required to start a league. However I'll grant that my time spent on Puresim has been minimal. What does it for OOTP IMO is the simplicity of the interface over the player development algorithm. I quickly found out that fictional leagues were much more satisfying to me. Watching a big time prospect tank or a medium talent 8th round pick become a solid player later in his career is great. I'm not saying Puresim can't do it, I just never got that far.

One concern I have about OOTP BM2006 is the level of complexity may reduce the ease of just simming or just playing the game.

Malleus Dei · 12-20-2005, 02:46 PM

Diamond Mind Baseball is the most detailed and most accurate baseball text sim in existence. It is season-based and stat-based, however. I've been playing it since it first came out. It's great.

Check it out for yourself:

http://www.diamond-mind.com/products/index.html

Davey Eckstein · 12-20-2005, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Diamond Mind Baseball is the most detailed and most accurate baseball text sim in existence. It is season-based and stat-based, however. I've been playing it since it first came out. It's great.

And only costs an arm and a leg!

sporr · 12-20-2005, 04:57 PM

If you are looking for ultra-realistic past-season simulations, Diamond Mind is probably what you need. However, it sounds like you want some "career" mode to go from one season to the next. OOTPBM will likely be light-years ahead of any competition out there in this regard. Heck, it's going to likely be light-years ahead of OOTP6 which is already the best IMO.

Malleus Dei · 12-20-2005, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Davey Eckstein

And only costs an arm and a leg!

And is worth it.

12-20-2005, 01:17 AM	#1 (permalink)
DanielW4444 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 21	OOTP vs. Baseball Mogul & other sims... I'm probably gonna buy one of these next year and I was wondering which one has the most complete player development system. The game that has the best scouting, drafting and developing prospects and stuff. Thanks for your time

12-20-2005, 01:38 AM	#2 (permalink)
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, texas Posts: 10,664	OOTP has no real competition in the baseball text sim market. This game is pretty solid. http://www.puresim.com/ __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan." Last edited by darkhorse : 12-20-2005 at 01:39 AM.

12-20-2005, 02:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
kq76 Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,185	With OOTP seemingly comfortable with its lead, I don't feel they made a whole lot of progress in the last couple of years (others will disagree, I'm sure). Meanwhile, IMO Puresim had been making great strides and seemed to actually have OOTP in its sights. Now, with the complete rewrite of OOTP and being able to get a good look at SI's library of code for CM/FM, I expect that the upcoming OOTPBM2006 will take a huge step forward and once again put itself far ahead of the competition. If you're only going to buy one of these games, I'd recommend you put your money on OOTPBM2006. I'd definitely recommend trying Puresim's demo though (see DH's link above). If you do a search here you'll find some reviews of the other games and comparisons to OOTP, including one by myself. Just make sure to take the dates of the posts into consideration as some points might be out-of-date. __________________ Kieran Quinn Online League Boards Moderator Fan of spectacular defensive plays and aggressive base-running and stealing Interactive Online League Directory - find or advertise a league today! Hardball Heroes - probably the largest multiplayer OOTP8 world (7 leagues of 12 teams each) The Canadian Baseball League - one of the best OOTP6.5 leagues still left, running since April 2002

12-20-2005, 02:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
Malleus Dei Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Lurking Posts: 7,459	Diamond Mind Baseball is the most detailed and most accurate baseball text sim in existence. It is season-based and stat-based, however. I've been playing it since it first came out. It's great. Check it out for yourself: http://www.diamond-mind.com/products/index.html __________________ Senior member of the OOTP boards/former mod maker/surly bastage

12-20-2005, 04:57 PM	#10 (permalink)
sporr Moderator* Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,180	If you are looking for ultra-realistic past-season simulations, Diamond Mind is probably what you need. However, it sounds like you want some "career" mode to go from one season to the next. OOTPBM will likely be light-years ahead of any competition out there in this regard. Heck, it's going to likely be light-years ahead of OOTP6 which is already the best IMO. __________________ Baseball Maelstrom - Commish/ St Louis Cardinals USBA - Las Vegas Scorpions

12-20-2005, 09:19 AM	#5 (permalink)
edddgar Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 189	I was in a mogul sim for about a total of two sims, it was far from OOTP.

12-20-2005, 09:43 AM	#6 (permalink)
Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a van down by the Severn River Posts: 1,279 Warnings: 1	Yeah, the only one even close is PureSim. Shaun Sullivan is doing some good things over there. But, for my money OOTP is the best. And if you play any of the other SI games (EHM or FM), you know that OOTPBM is going to blow away all the previous versions and the competition.

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