OOTP and Sega part company! - Page 6

Purple Cowboy · 09-21-2007, 02:30 PM

I for one am happy for the change and wish nothing but the best for Markus & Andreas and for Marc & SI. I've been a supporter of SI from when they were publishing ChampMan all the way through the latest Football Manager and was one of those who were really excited that both of my favorite games would be under the same umbrella. But as the relationship went on it seemed there was always an "arm's length" between the two; especially with the relative inactivity on the SI community board regarding OOTP (aside from the odd xenophobic "joke" at our expense in The Third Half). So I like the break... it had already happened in my mind so now I don't seem quite so crazy.

RchW · 09-21-2007, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, we will probably not get a MLB license because it comes with too many restrictions. However, I am 99% sure that we will ship with real player names next year, as MLBPA lost a recent lawsuit that basically allows us to do this

Reading between the lines it seems that SI/Sega risk tolerance for putting real names in was too low vs what risk Markus takes on his own. Small guys like BM and OOTP developments are not worth the lawyers fees to go after. Based on that alone the split makes business sense for both.

Markus would it be accurate to say that you may have an unofficial ongoing relationship with SI? Just not the partnership that could lead to shared liability. Strike that, you probably couldn't answer it anyway.

battists · 09-21-2007, 03:02 PM

The newsletter e-mails are going out as we speak, but there's a lot of them. Delivery times may vary. And remember, they're going to whatever e-mail address you registered when you bought the game, not what your forum account is registered as!

I'll post the newsletter on the forums later on tonight, I think.

There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

Jeremy Weimer · 09-21-2007, 03:48 PM

Good news!

theasfl · 09-21-2007, 03:57 PM

Im not gonna dig through the 6 pages of replies (I made it through 1.5ish I think), but I applaud you (Id have the clapping smiley if this wasnt a quick reply, I'll try to guess though: ::clap:: ) for going to back to the number system. Wanna make v07 v8 in the 3rd patch?

Solack · 09-21-2007, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

blah, blah, blah...
There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

You're such a tease! Guess I'll be camping out the forums and my e-mail for the next week...

Charlie Hough · 09-21-2007, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerry58

Yes but as you probably know, they (MLB) appealed.

Gerry

Yes, there was an appeal filed, but the case is a lost cause. The original judge's decision was made based on extensive case history involving simulation games and publication of player information in the public domain. MLB has basically no chance of winning, but it will go through the motions and hope for a miracle.

Altus · 09-22-2007, 01:54 AM

Does this mean that ITP 2 is back on the agenda?

Neags23 · 09-22-2007, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by battists

The newsletter e-mails are going out as we speak, but there's a lot of them. Delivery times may vary. And remember, they're going to whatever e-mail address you registered when you bought the game, not what your forum account is registered as!

I'll post the newsletter on the forums later on tonight, I think.

There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

Still no newsletter here... should it take 12 hours?

Andreas Raht · 09-22-2007, 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neags23

Still no newsletter here... should it take 12 hours?

Hi! I've uploaded a copy of the latest newsletter to our server: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0033/

The next newsletter will come on Monday I guess

robster1225 · 09-22-2007, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

Hi! I've uploaded a copy of the latest newsletter to our server: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/newsletters/nl0033/

The next newsletter will come on Monday I guess

Thanks Andreas, because I didn't recieve it either.

spiffamous · 09-22-2007, 10:23 AM

I also never received the newsletter, so thanks for the link.

Matt

YankeePride · 09-22-2007, 11:23 AM

That's odd. I've received every newsletter prior to this one. Don't know why it didn't come through.

Perhaps it hasn't been sent yet.

Tony M · 09-22-2007, 11:24 AM

Me neither. Thanks for the link Andreas...

dsvitak · 09-22-2007, 11:43 AM

I am thrilled with this development.

I had NOTHING but problems with Marc Duffy and his company...up to and including being banned from his forums for having a yahoo.com e-mail account.

Good riddance to rubbish. OOTP Developments doesn't need ignorant and arrogant trash like that.

bp_ · 09-22-2007, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by robster1225

Thanks Andreas, because I didn't recieve it either.

me either and I've always received them in the past

Anisoptera · 09-22-2007, 12:55 PM

I don't see why they waited to post it. The people who check the boards everyday should get news first. Shouldn't email newsletters should be more to remind customers of the product of news that they might not otherwise find out about?

DougWyatt · 09-22-2007, 01:31 PM

This is very strange. I didn't receive the newsletter, and I always have gotten them in the past.

Possibly .. it hasn't been sent yet ?

Kaitiaki · 09-22-2007, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DougWyatt

Possibly .. it hasn't been sent yet ?

Battists posted earlier in this thread that they went out at around 2-3 PM yesterday. Also, there's a link in a post by Andreas above to an HTML version of the newsletter, so they're clearly done.

- Kai

DougWyatt · 09-22-2007, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaitiaki

Battists posted earlier in this thread that they went out at around 2-3 PM yesterday. Also, there's a link in a post by Andreas above to an HTML version of the newsletter, so they're clearly done.

- Kai

Yeah, I was just foolin' about. Kinda pokin' a little fun at the 30 or so people that said the same thing

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09-21-2007, 02:30 PM	#101 (permalink)
Purple Cowboy All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Desolation Row, NJ Posts: 969	I for one am happy for the change and wish nothing but the best for Markus & Andreas and for Marc & SI. I've been a supporter of SI from when they were publishing ChampMan all the way through the latest Football Manager and was one of those who were really excited that both of my favorite games would be under the same umbrella. But as the relationship went on it seemed there was always an "arm's length" between the two; especially with the relative inactivity on the SI community board regarding OOTP (aside from the odd xenophobic "joke" at our expense in The Third Half). So I like the break... it had already happened in my mind so now I don't seem quite so crazy. __________________ no pressure no problem

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09-22-2007, 01:54 AM	#108 (permalink)
Altus Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Cape Town, South Africa Posts: 192	woo hoo Does this mean that ITP 2 is back on the agenda?

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09-21-2007, 03:02 PM	#103 (permalink)
battists Administrator Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 14,119	The newsletter e-mails are going out as we speak, but there's a lot of them. Delivery times may vary. And remember, they're going to whatever e-mail address you registered when you bought the game, not what your forum account is registered as! I'll post the newsletter on the forums later on tonight, I think. There will also be a second newsletter (which frankly has juicier news) next week. Just out of time this week!

09-22-2007, 10:23 AM	#112 (permalink)
spiffamous Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 128	I also never received the newsletter, so thanks for the link. Matt

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Tony M Moderator* Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Buckingham, England Posts: 2,906	Me neither. Thanks for the link Andreas... __________________ Tony M Technical Support Moderator

09-22-2007, 11:43 AM	#115 (permalink)
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,508	I am thrilled with this development. I had NOTHING but problems with Marc Duffy and his company...up to and including being banned from his forums for having a yahoo.com e-mail account. Good riddance to rubbish. OOTP Developments doesn't need ignorant and arrogant trash like that.

09-22-2007, 12:55 PM	#117 (permalink)
Anisoptera Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 169	I don't see why they waited to post it. The people who check the boards everyday should get news first. Shouldn't email newsletters should be more to remind customers of the product of news that they might not otherwise find out about? Last edited by Anisoptera : 09-22-2007 at 12:56 PM.

09-22-2007, 01:31 PM	#118 (permalink)
DougWyatt All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,081	This is very strange. I didn't receive the newsletter, and I always have gotten them in the past. Possibly .. it hasn't been sent yet ? __________________ May 9, 2007 was the best day of my life. Welcome to the world son ! link -> My boy

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