OOTP about to get some big competition - Page 6

The Wolf · 04-15-2008, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erik W.

I think you're missing the point.

Baseball Mogul: The Big Wheel of baseball sims.

PureSim: Until now, a part-time developed niche game.

Diamond Mind: Not a career simulator. Only does single-season replays.

None of them were competition. Until Wolverine acquired PureSim. Draft Day Sports: Baseball will absolutely be competition. The others mentioned around this site really haven't been.

That's what this entire thread is about.

Draft Day Sports Baseball MAY be competition for OOTP. It is possible. But given Puresim's history, I seriously doubt it.

Syd Thrift · 04-15-2008, 01:44 AM

I actually liked a lot of things about PS 2006, and it's kind of nice that some of the goodness was integrated into OOTP (having a separate "tune file", for example, for those of us who want to get really cheeky with the stats. Some of the things in there like DP frequency would just make the game look even more complicated to the casual user but at the same time I like being able to go in and change things). I expect that with doing this on a full-time basis, Shaun Sullivan will make a game that does an even better job of competing with OOTP, which in turn will make the game that much better.

It is kind of funny, though, that peeps get bent out of shape when they get a link to Google when they ask for the addresses of competing companies. If you're that lazy, I dunno, maybe the Internet is not for you.

kckid4u · 04-15-2008, 02:15 AM

And you know what you can do.

Andreas Raht · 04-15-2008, 02:53 AM

Guys, we have no problem with competition at all. At least not as long as OOTP is the best baseball sim on the market

@kckid4u, I don't know what you think that I might have done wrong. I gave you the link to look for the demo. Honestly, I don't really like having links to any other baseball game on this forum. But it's not forbidden to post them. As long as it's not obvious advertising. Actually I think we're very lax when it comes to discussions about competitors. I didn't give you a warning or anything and I (of course!) fully respect that you want to check out the other baseball games, no problem at all. There's just a better place to look for the demo or to ask for it and that's the Puresim web site, which you can find quickly using Google. And when you tried it please come back and let us know what you think about it and what OOTP probably needs to do better.

kckid4u · 04-15-2008, 03:28 AM

Ok Andreas.

mh2365 · 04-15-2008, 04:34 AM

Too funny

Andreas Raht · 04-15-2008, 04:41 AM

Mike, that's not meant to be funny. Stop adding fuel to the fire please.

jbergey22 · 04-15-2008, 04:42 AM

Competition is always good. It tends to bring out the best in people.

I am sure the newest edition to Wolverine will eventually be a very good game but IMO it takes a long time to get to the point where the finer points(AI, engine) = the features. OOTP seems to be on the brink of getting the finer points close to perfection(DIPS).

Mike D · 04-15-2008, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I actually liked a lot of things about PS 2006, and it's kind of nice that some of the goodness was integrated into OOTP (having a separate "tune file", for example, for those of us who want to get really cheeky with the stats. Some of the things in there like DP frequency would just make the game look even more complicated to the casual user but at the same time I like being able to go in and change things). I expect that with doing this on a full-time basis, Shaun Sullivan will make a game that does an even better job of competing with OOTP, which in turn will make the game that much better.

It is kind of funny, though, that peeps get bent out of shape when they get a link to Google when they ask for the addresses of competing companies. If you're that lazy, I dunno, maybe the Internet is not for you.

Not to change the subject, but Shaun still isn't doing it full-time. At least, that's not the impression I got from Gary.

Shaun Sullivan · 04-15-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D

Not to change the subject, but Shaun still isn't doing it full-time. At least, that's not the impression I got from Gary.

Yea, not even close to full time. I still have a real job, 4 kids (putting one through College) so, that is merely a dream

Hey out of respect to OOTP I say we move any PureSim conversation to the appropriate forum at PureSim or Wolverine.

Frankly I enjoy and own almost every version of OOTP and the fact that it has done so well actually keeps me going. Same goes for Mogul. The more successful games in the genre the better for all developers in this niche.

For what it's worth, I truly admire and respect both Markus and Andreas. They are obviously super talented and have built the dominant title in the genre. That was not by accident. OOTP is a great game.

I wish the whole team at OOTP best of luck and this year's version looks amazing. I know I'll have my credit card out.

Like many of you other ravenous Baseball fans I have room on my HD for more than one Baseball game, oh and on my 360, my Wii and so on...

I have a Baseball sim addiction that goes back to Earl Weaver!

Regards,
Shaun

Shaun Sullivan · 04-15-2008, 12:21 PM

Oh, one more thing.

Go Red Sox!

Dan Theman · 04-15-2008, 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Sullivan

Oh, one more thing.

Go Red Sox!

Q@#$%^@!* Borowski.

1998 Yankees · 04-15-2008, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Sullivan

Yea, not even close to full time. I still have a real job, 4 kids (putting one through College) so, that is merely a dream

Hey out of respect to OOTP I say we move any PureSim conversation to the appropriate forum at PureSim or Wolverine.

Frankly I enjoy and own almost every version of OOTP and the fact that it has done so well actually keeps me going. Same goes for Mogul. The more successful games in the genre the better for all developers in this niche.

For what it's worth, I truly admire and respect both Markus and Andreas. They are obviously super talented and have built the dominant title in the genre. That was not by accident. OOTP is a great game.

I wish the whole team at OOTP best of luck and this year's version looks amazing. I know I'll have my credit card out.

Like many of you other ravenous Baseball fans I have room on my HD for more than one Baseball game, oh and on my 360, my Wii and so on...

I have a Baseball sim addiction that goes back to Earl Weaver!

Regards,
Shaun

Gracious and diplomatic . . .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Sullivan

Oh, one more thing.

Go Red Sox!

. . . therefore, I forgive you for this.

silvam14 · 04-15-2008, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Gracious and diplomatic . . .

. . . therefore, I forgive you for this.

Is it any coincidence that both Shaun and Markus are Red Sox fans?

mh2365 · 04-15-2008, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

Mike, that's not meant to be funny. Stop adding fuel to the fire please.

Always ruining my fun

mh2365 · 04-15-2008, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun Sullivan

Yea, not even close to full time. I still have a real job, 4 kids (putting one through College) so, that is merely a dream

Hey out of respect to OOTP I say we move any PureSim conversation to the appropriate forum at PureSim or Wolverine.

Frankly I enjoy and own almost every version of OOTP and the fact that it has done so well actually keeps me going. Same goes for Mogul. The more successful games in the genre the better for all developers in this niche.

For what it's worth, I truly admire and respect both Markus and Andreas. They are obviously super talented and have built the dominant title in the genre. That was not by accident. OOTP is a great game.

I wish the whole team at OOTP best of luck and this year's version looks amazing. I know I'll have my credit card out.

Like many of you other ravenous Baseball fans I have room on my HD for more than one Baseball game, oh and on my 360, my Wii and so on...

I have a Baseball sim addiction that goes back to Earl Weaver!

Regards,
Shaun

Like I said earlier Gary is a class act and while I'm down on any game that isn't TBCB right now, you'll be a great addition to the Wolverine family.

kckid4u · 04-15-2008, 03:11 PM

I find it funny when someone finds it "fun" to practically live their whole life through a game's site forum.

silvam14 · 04-15-2008, 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kckid4u

I find it funny when someone finds it "fun" to practically live their whole life through a game's site forum.

Damn! That mean that mh is only 7 years old!

kckid4u · 04-15-2008, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvam14

Damn! That mean that mh is only 7 years old!

That may be. It would certainly explain alot of things.

mh2365 · 04-15-2008, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvam14

Damn! That mean that mh is only 7 years old!

He's on my ignore list .. so if you don't quote him I don't have to see it

04-15-2008, 02:15 AM	#103 (permalink)
kckid4u Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pictured Above: Buck Barnett - Best Pitcher in OOTP History! Posts: 476	And you know what you can do. __________________ TTBL Kansas City Tornadoes 2051 World Series Champions! CDL Detroit Tigers Two Time American League Champions!

04-15-2008, 02:53 AM	#104 (permalink)
Andreas Raht Administrator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hollern/Stade/Germany Posts: 4,317	Guys, we have no problem with competition at all. At least not as long as OOTP is the best baseball sim on the market @kckid4u, I don't know what you think that I might have done wrong. I gave you the link to look for the demo. Honestly, I don't really like having links to any other baseball game on this forum. But it's not forbidden to post them. As long as it's not obvious advertising. Actually I think we're very lax when it comes to discussions about competitors. I didn't give you a warning or anything and I (of course!) fully respect that you want to check out the other baseball games, no problem at all. There's just a better place to look for the demo or to ask for it and that's the Puresim web site, which you can find quickly using Google. And when you tried it please come back and let us know what you think about it and what OOTP probably needs to do better. __________________ Andreas Raht andreas@ootpdevelopments.com Out of the Park Developments Out of the Park Baseball Development Team Title Bout Development Team

04-15-2008, 03:28 AM	#105 (permalink)
kckid4u Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pictured Above: Buck Barnett - Best Pitcher in OOTP History! Posts: 476	Ok Andreas. __________________ TTBL Kansas City Tornadoes 2051 World Series Champions! CDL Detroit Tigers Two Time American League Champions!

04-15-2008, 04:41 AM	#107 (permalink)
Andreas Raht Administrator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hollern/Stade/Germany Posts: 4,317	Mike, that's not meant to be funny. Stop adding fuel to the fire please. __________________ Andreas Raht andreas@ootpdevelopments.com Out of the Park Developments Out of the Park Baseball Development Team Title Bout Development Team

04-15-2008, 04:42 AM	#108 (permalink)
jbergey22 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,328	Competition is always good. It tends to bring out the best in people. I am sure the newest edition to Wolverine will eventually be a very good game but IMO it takes a long time to get to the point where the finer points(AI, engine) = the features. OOTP seems to be on the brink of getting the finer points close to perfection(DIPS). __________________ Last edited by jbergey22 : 04-15-2008 at 04:49 AM.

04-15-2008, 01:44 AM	#102 (permalink)
Syd Thrift Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,113	I actually liked a lot of things about PS 2006, and it's kind of nice that some of the goodness was integrated into OOTP (having a separate "tune file", for example, for those of us who want to get really cheeky with the stats. Some of the things in there like DP frequency would just make the game look even more complicated to the casual user but at the same time I like being able to go in and change things). I expect that with doing this on a full-time basis, Shaun Sullivan will make a game that does an even better job of competing with OOTP, which in turn will make the game that much better. It is kind of funny, though, that peeps get bent out of shape when they get a link to Google when they ask for the addresses of competing companies. If you're that lazy, I dunno, maybe the Internet is not for you.

04-15-2008, 04:34 AM	#106 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Too funny

04-15-2008, 12:21 PM	#111 (permalink)
Shaun Sullivan Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 44	Oh, one more thing. Go Red Sox!

04-15-2008, 03:11 PM	#117 (permalink)
kckid4u Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pictured Above: Buck Barnett - Best Pitcher in OOTP History! Posts: 476	I find it funny when someone finds it "fun" to practically live their whole life through a game's site forum. __________________ TTBL Kansas City Tornadoes 2051 World Series Champions! CDL Detroit Tigers Two Time American League Champions!

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