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LCS213 · 01-21-2002, 12:39 PM

Reading that Sportplanet interview with Markus, he said something that was almost music to my ears. "I was toying around with the idea of developing a hockey simulation"
Oh man, after crapping my pants, and cleaning myself off, I saw that because he's doing OOTP4 for the Mac, he won't have time. I selfishly hope that coding for the Mac is too much of a pain in the ass, and Markus has a change of heart. Eastside Hockey Manager's good, but I think Markus' efforts would blow it out of the water. Would anyone else like to see a hockey version of OOTP??!
-Lenny S.

Hoiles · 01-21-2002, 02:17 PM

I think a Out of the Rink game would be great, but I don't mind Markus concentrating on OOTP and continually improving that game.

Eastside is pretty good, has tons of features, pretty much everything you can think of, but a lot of the features aren't very polished, managing the team takes too much time and the simming is very slowwwww. Can't complain since it's free, though, I wouldn't mind shelling out a few dozen dollars for an OOTP-style game with 90% of the features, and which is more fun to play.

[ January 22, 2002: Message edited by: Hoiles ]</p>

LCS213 · 01-21-2002, 02:38 PM

I think what we need is to clone Markus, so he could do both. Maybe if we take up a collection, those German scientists could make it happen!

-Lenny S.

JWay · 01-21-2002, 06:35 PM

lol

MizzouRah · 01-21-2002, 07:08 PM

Out of the rink would be great! Hockey is just a tad above Baseball for me.

Todd

Kevin · 01-22-2002, 04:06 AM

Eastside is very good. Riz now needs to focus on fine tuning the line strategies so that one startegy will not always win. If he gets that accomplished and tightens up the trade AI, anyone would be hard pressed to surpass Eastside as a hockey game.

I'm all for Out of the Rink as long as it's a curling sim!

King of Diamonds · 01-22-2002, 11:16 AM

As a 1980's league hockey commish i would love to see Markus create a hockey league. Each of the current hockey sims seem to have some issues to them. Eastside and Batessoft i think are the top two out there. As a group, the hockey owners are a very loyal lot and i think a larger group than you would think. Solid market for a programmer as yourself. thanks-Don

Markus Heinsohn · 01-22-2002, 11:31 AM

Actually, I was toying around with the idea of coding a hockey sim. There is already some code, and guess what, the name was "Out Of The Rink Hockey"!

First I'll code OOTP for the Mac, and then MAYBE I'll code something like OOTR

LCS213 · 01-22-2002, 12:26 PM

(faints upon reading that delicious comment from Markus)...so that means cloning might not be necessary then!?!

Henry · 01-22-2002, 12:31 PM

Love the new logo Markus !!

Lee · 01-22-2002, 02:12 PM

Hey as long as we are wishing how about a College Football game? I have TCY and it is great but a historical replay College game would be awesome!! Doesn't hurt to dream

I actually think a Hockey sim is a great idea, hopefully it will come to fruition.

redsox45 · 01-23-2002, 03:25 AM

As long as we're fantasizing about Markus's future development projects, I think we ought to have OTG -- Off the Tee Golf with all the PGA tour stops, majors, golfer stats...ahhh, it would be great!

Will

LCS213 · 01-23-2002, 04:06 PM

While I think Eastside is a good game in its own right, I'm spoiled by some of the things I'm used to in OOTP. Simple things like being able to see a player's game-by-game performance. Like looking at a team's schedule, month-by-month. And most importantly, a UI that's a bit more user friendly. That's why I hope Markus actually takes this project up!
-Lenny S.

Draft Dodger · 01-23-2002, 05:24 PM

I don't know, with the future of FOF seeming kind of hazy (EA certainly isn't going to do anything with it) and EHM coming along pretty solidly, I think I'd rather see Markus *ahem* tackling a football sim before a hockey sim...

Jestre · 01-24-2002, 03:06 AM

I'd love to see Out of the Rink Hockey, Eastside Hockey seems clunky and waay overblown in some areas. An ootp approach to hockey would be great. I'd love to take a 1967 expansion team like the Flyers thru history... with pubs out like Total Hockey that would be possible...

BaseballMan · 01-27-2002, 08:17 AM

Yeah it would be nice if Markus could program another sport simulation, But im afraid ootp might suffer.Maybe if he could hire some guys that are as dedicated as he is to the program hes developed, or if him and those other great game creators could get together and form their own sports simulation company id say go for it. They could all learn from each other. I just think it would be too much to ask Markus to dedicate himself to 3 different games by himself.Unless we can let him program a hockey sim and let it develop and not rush him to work night and day rushing fixing every whim..
It would be nice to see a sports simulation company that the creators actually knew the sport
created the game for unlike that eye candy EA where Quincy Carter passes for 600 yds a game,
basketball scores are 176-151 etc.
Anyways i dont think any of us would complain if Markus and these guys wanted to make a profit for their hard work.
Just imagine if Markus had developed windows and Bill Gates developed OTTP. lol

Timmae · 01-28-2002, 01:21 PM

All of the afforementioned games have their pluses and minuses... the key is I keep going back and playing them. Every single one gets dragged out again... altho OOTP hasn't been cast off to be picked up again yet.. still hooked! WHM/FOF and OOTP are favs...

kq76 · 09-25-2009, 10:59 AM

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The more I play console hockey, the more I want Out of the Rink Hockey. I realize it's probably just a pipe-dream, but boy oh boy would that be great.

Maybe one day he'll get the urge to dabble in something other than baseball for a bit.

So is hockey Markus's second favourite sport? What about Andreas?

AndrewG · 09-25-2009, 01:11 PM

I loved EHM and there are still ties to EHM in the OOTP group I believe.

I played the game for over 20 years and have coached for over 12 (Coaching 2 kids teams now) and offer to help in any fashion, testing, graphics or insight.

Afino · 09-26-2009, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

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The more I play console hockey, the more I want Out of the Rink Hockey. I realize it's probably just a pipe-dream, but boy oh boy would that be great.

Maybe one day he'll get the urge to dabble in something other than baseball for a bit.

So is hockey Markus's second favourite sport? What about Andreas?

Yeah....we can only wish.

I know hockey is actually kind of popular in Germany, as the DEL (Germany's hockey league) is probably the best mainland European league outside of the KHL.

01-21-2002, 12:39 PM	#1 (permalink)
LCS213 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 159	Out of the Rink Hockey, anyone?? Reading that Sportplanet interview with Markus, he said something that was almost music to my ears. "I was toying around with the idea of developing a hockey simulation" Oh man, after crapping my pants, and cleaning myself off, I saw that because he's doing OOTP4 for the Mac, he won't have time. I selfishly hope that coding for the Mac is too much of a pain in the ass, and Markus has a change of heart. Eastside Hockey Manager's good, but I think Markus' efforts would blow it out of the water. Would anyone else like to see a hockey version of OOTP??! -Lenny S. __________________ -Lenny S. GM, New York Yankees, Gonegold Out of the Park Baseball League, Albany Areolas, HCL, Jackson City Snappers, DDBL

01-21-2002, 02:38 PM	#3 (permalink)
LCS213 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 159	I think what we need is to clone Markus, so he could do both. Maybe if we take up a collection, those German scientists could make it happen! -Lenny S. __________________ -Lenny S. GM, New York Yankees, Gonegold Out of the Park Baseball League, Albany Areolas, HCL, Jackson City Snappers, DDBL

01-21-2002, 06:35 PM	#4 (permalink)
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01-22-2002, 04:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
Kevin Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 468	Eastside is very good. Riz now needs to focus on fine tuning the line strategies so that one startegy will not always win. If he gets that accomplished and tightens up the trade AI, anyone would be hard pressed to surpass Eastside as a hockey game. I'm all for Out of the Rink as long as it's a curling sim! __________________ It seems more like today than it did all day yesterday.

01-22-2002, 11:31 AM	#8 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 10,343 Thanked 242x in 63 posts	Actually, I was toying around with the idea of coding a hockey sim. There is already some code, and guess what, the name was "Out Of The Rink Hockey"! First I'll code OOTP for the Mac, and then MAYBE I'll code something like OOTR __________________ Buy OOTP Developments' Games ... OOTP is on Twitter now ... And, a Facebook page too!

01-21-2002, 02:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
Hoiles Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Montreal, QC, Canada Posts: 130	I think a Out of the Rink game would be great, but I don't mind Markus concentrating on OOTP and continually improving that game. Eastside is pretty good, has tons of features, pretty much everything you can think of, but a lot of the features aren't very polished, managing the team takes too much time and the simming is very slowwwww. Can't complain since it's free, though, I wouldn't mind shelling out a few dozen dollars for an OOTP-style game with 90% of the features, and which is more fun to play. [ January 22, 2002: Message edited by: Hoiles ]</p>

01-21-2002, 07:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
MizzouRah All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 1,816 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Out of the rink would be great! Hockey is just a tad above Baseball for me. Todd

01-22-2002, 11:16 AM	#7 (permalink)
King of Diamonds Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 64	As a 1980's league hockey commish i would love to see Markus create a hockey league. Each of the current hockey sims seem to have some issues to them. Eastside and Batessoft i think are the top two out there. As a group, the hockey owners are a very loyal lot and i think a larger group than you would think. Solid market for a programmer as yourself. thanks-Don

01-22-2002, 12:26 PM	#9 (permalink)
LCS213 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 159	(faints upon reading that delicious comment from Markus)...so that means cloning might not be necessary then!?! __________________ -Lenny S. GM, New York Yankees, Gonegold Out of the Park Baseball League, Albany Areolas, HCL, Jackson City Snappers, DDBL

01-22-2002, 12:31 PM	#10 (permalink)
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,125	Love the new logo Markus !! __________________

01-22-2002, 02:12 PM	#11 (permalink)
Lee Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix Az Posts: 2,185 Thanked 21x in 21 posts	Hey as long as we are wishing how about a College Football game? I have TCY and it is great but a historical replay College game would be awesome!! Doesn't hurt to dream I actually think a Hockey sim is a great idea, hopefully it will come to fruition. __________________ Chilton Roughnecks My UTBA Franchise World Premier League Boxing Links WPBL - Archives RCB 2K7 Universe Links RCB Lineage and Records Page RCB Rankings Page OOTP Developments - Home of Title Bout Championship Boxing - PC Boxing Simulation

01-23-2002, 03:25 AM	#12 (permalink)
redsox45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Machias, Maine Posts: 4,564	As long as we're fantasizing about Markus's future development projects, I think we ought to have OTG -- Off the Tee Golf with all the PGA tour stops, majors, golfer stats...ahhh, it would be great! Will __________________ Top Five Books I Ever Read: 1. Murder of Roger Ackroyd -- Agatha Christie 2. Birds of Prey -- Wilbur Smith 3. King Solomon's Mines - H. Rider Haggard 4. Comstock Lode -- Louis L'Amour 5. Andersonville -- McKinley Kantor

01-23-2002, 04:06 PM	#13 (permalink)
LCS213 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Albany, NY Posts: 159	While I think Eastside is a good game in its own right, I'm spoiled by some of the things I'm used to in OOTP. Simple things like being able to see a player's game-by-game performance. Like looking at a team's schedule, month-by-month. And most importantly, a UI that's a bit more user friendly. That's why I hope Markus actually takes this project up! -Lenny S. __________________ -Lenny S. GM, New York Yankees, Gonegold Out of the Park Baseball League, Albany Areolas, HCL, Jackson City Snappers, DDBL

01-23-2002, 05:24 PM	#14 (permalink)
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	I don't know, with the future of FOF seeming kind of hazy (EA certainly isn't going to do anything with it) and EHM coming along pretty solidly, I think I'd rather see Markus ahem tackling a football sim before a hockey sim... __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

01-24-2002, 03:06 AM	#15 (permalink)
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 541 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I'd love to see Out of the Rink Hockey, Eastside Hockey seems clunky and waay overblown in some areas. An ootp approach to hockey would be great. I'd love to take a 1967 expansion team like the Flyers thru history... with pubs out like Total Hockey that would be possible... __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers" MLBC

01-27-2002, 08:17 AM	#16 (permalink)
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,051 Thanked 9x in 7 posts	Yeah it would be nice if Markus could program another sport simulation, But im afraid ootp might suffer.Maybe if he could hire some guys that are as dedicated as he is to the program hes developed, or if him and those other great game creators could get together and form their own sports simulation company id say go for it. They could all learn from each other. I just think it would be too much to ask Markus to dedicate himself to 3 different games by himself.Unless we can let him program a hockey sim and let it develop and not rush him to work night and day rushing fixing every whim.. It would be nice to see a sports simulation company that the creators actually knew the sport created the game for unlike that eye candy EA where Quincy Carter passes for 600 yds a game, basketball scores are 176-151 etc. Anyways i dont think any of us would complain if Markus and these guys wanted to make a profit for their hard work. Just imagine if Markus had developed windows and Bill Gates developed OTTP. lol

01-28-2002, 01:21 PM	#17 (permalink)
Timmae Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Milw, WI Posts: 10	All of the afforementioned games have their pluses and minuses... the key is I keep going back and playing them. Every single one gets dragged out again... altho OOTP hasn't been cast off to be picked up again yet.. still hooked! WHM/FOF and OOTP are favs...

09-25-2009, 10:59 AM	#18 (permalink)
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 6,535 Thanked 39x in 28 posts	(bump) The more I play console hockey, the more I want Out of the Rink Hockey. I realize it's probably just a pipe-dream, but boy oh boy would that be great. Maybe one day he'll get the urge to dabble in something other than baseball for a bit. So is hockey Markus's second favourite sport? What about Andreas? __________________ Useful Links: X Manual - Downloads - Newsletters - Licenses FAQ - Other FAQ - Tech Support Interactive Online League Directory - find or advertise a league today! Canadian Baseball League - uses OOTP9, running steadily since April 2002

09-25-2009, 01:11 PM	#19 (permalink)
AndrewG Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Pointe Claire, PQ, CANADA Posts: 288 Thanked 20x in 10 posts	I loved EHM and there are still ties to EHM in the OOTP group I believe. I played the game for over 20 years and have coached for over 12 (Coaching 2 kids teams now) and offer to help in any fashion, testing, graphics or insight. Last edited by AndrewG; 09-25-2009 at 01:22 PM.

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Out of the Rink Hockey, anyone??