Creating Closing Pitcher

austinm56 · 01-02-2004, 08:43 PM

I would like the ability to make my pitcher a Closer, also would like to choose what OF position my outfielder playes.

Wig · 01-03-2004, 05:19 PM

me too.

Seriously, I have no idea. I am experimenting with the thought a closer needs to have alot of poise.

BMW · 01-04-2004, 06:43 PM

If you sink all your stats into great stuff, and poise, but completely disregard the stamina, do you usually get a middle reliever? I haven't tried yet.

Also, ITP isn't really set up to create closers accurately. The vast majority of major league closers are converted starters. Even Armando Benitez, and Kaz Sasaki are converted starters. Hell, Troy Percival is a converted minor league catcher, and Trevor Hoffman a was a minor league shortstop.

BMW · 01-05-2004, 11:12 PM

I created a character with two pitches, a 100 velocity, 100 poise and 80 stuff. He comes out of the draft as a middle reliever, and is still one by the time he gets to the bigs. What's the secret to getting a closer?

austinm56 · 01-06-2004, 02:31 PM

I have experimented with everything myself too. I created a player, transfered the file to OOTP, and tried adjusting every rateing in every way, and ALWAYS a MR, never a closer, with any configuration.

dannyc · 01-06-2004, 04:22 PM

about 99.9 % of closer AND relievers were starters in HS and college just converted even Mariano

austinm56 · 01-06-2004, 06:01 PM

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about 99.9 % of closer AND relievers were starters in HS and college just converted even Mariano

your right, but i think everyone who replies like that is missing the point. I have tried that route, makeing a pitcher and letting the AI decide what happens to him. When you hit the "generate Staff" button in OOTP, it places your pitchers where it wants them. I have tried doing this with every combination of rateings, and the player is never a closer.
I have played an entire career as a MR pitcher, never even 1 save, the AI would rather put a crappy career minor league pitcher as the closer than my player.

BMW · 01-06-2004, 06:25 PM

Sounds like a bug here somewhere.

BMW · 01-06-2004, 10:14 PM

Being a closer appears to be an impossibility.

Right now, I have a relief pitcher on the Yankees in 2014. There are three middle relievers on the team. One is rated 5 stars (me), another 4 (prospect) stars and another with 3 1/2 stars.

The closer is rated at 4 1/2 stars.

Two starters are being used in the pen, one with 2 stars and another with 1 1/2 stars.

So out of the 6 relievers in the pen, and I closing? No. The guy with 4 1/2 stars is probably better than me, since Closers are rated in relation to other closers.

I'm #6! As a 5 star middle reliever, I can't even get the nod as a setup man! I'm the 3rd middle reliever, behind the two failed starters, who posted a 5.24 and a 5.77 ERA the prior year!

Massive AI problem, in trying to determine the bullpen roles, wouldn't you say?

bigfly_22 · 01-18-2004, 11:51 AM

I'd agree that making a closer is impossible. This is another issue that should be resolved through a new patch. Choosing the type of pitcher you'd like to be (or the position your OF will play) should have been an option from the get-go. I've tried three times, all with different ratings and pitches and still only make a MR.

LeftyLeroux · 01-19-2004, 11:55 AM

I've seen the AI convert AI MR's to CL's. This has happened when there was no longer a CL on the roster and it looks like the best MR was converted.

01-02-2004, 08:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
austinm56 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 99	Creating Closing Pitcher I would like the ability to make my pitcher a Closer, also would like to choose what OF position my outfielder playes.

01-03-2004, 05:19 PM	#2 (permalink)
Wig Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: UK Posts: 153	me too. Seriously, I have no idea. I am experimenting with the thought a closer needs to have alot of poise. __________________ Wig On February 28, 1991, Don Mattingly was named the tenth captain in team history. He was an All-Star 6 times. He won nine Gold Glove awards from 1982-1995. He was AL batting champ in 1984 and MVP in 1985.

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dannyc Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 163	about 99.9 % of closer AND relievers were starters in HS and college just converted even Mariano __________________ Mets > all

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01-04-2004, 06:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
BMW Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 255	If you sink all your stats into great stuff, and poise, but completely disregard the stamina, do you usually get a middle reliever? I haven't tried yet. Also, ITP isn't really set up to create closers accurately. The vast majority of major league closers are converted starters. Even Armando Benitez, and Kaz Sasaki are converted starters. Hell, Troy Percival is a converted minor league catcher, and Trevor Hoffman a was a minor league shortstop.

01-05-2004, 11:12 PM	#4 (permalink)
BMW Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 255	I created a character with two pitches, a 100 velocity, 100 poise and 80 stuff. He comes out of the draft as a middle reliever, and is still one by the time he gets to the bigs. What's the secret to getting a closer?

01-06-2004, 02:31 PM	#5 (permalink)
austinm56 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Buffalo, NY Posts: 99	I have experimented with everything myself too. I created a player, transfered the file to OOTP, and tried adjusting every rateing in every way, and ALWAYS a MR, never a closer, with any configuration.

01-06-2004, 06:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
BMW Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 255	Sounds like a bug here somewhere.

01-06-2004, 10:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
BMW Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 255	Being a closer appears to be an impossibility. Right now, I have a relief pitcher on the Yankees in 2014. There are three middle relievers on the team. One is rated 5 stars (me), another 4 (prospect) stars and another with 3 1/2 stars. The closer is rated at 4 1/2 stars. Two starters are being used in the pen, one with 2 stars and another with 1 1/2 stars. So out of the 6 relievers in the pen, and I closing? No. The guy with 4 1/2 stars is probably better than me, since Closers are rated in relation to other closers. I'm #6! As a 5 star middle reliever, I can't even get the nod as a setup man! I'm the 3rd middle reliever, behind the two failed starters, who posted a 5.24 and a 5.77 ERA the prior year! Massive AI problem, in trying to determine the bullpen roles, wouldn't you say?

01-18-2004, 11:51 AM	#10 (permalink)
bigfly_22 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 96	I'd agree that making a closer is impossible. This is another issue that should be resolved through a new patch. Choosing the type of pitcher you'd like to be (or the position your OF will play) should have been an option from the get-go. I've tried three times, all with different ratings and pitches and still only make a MR.

01-19-2004, 11:55 AM	#11 (permalink)
LeftyLeroux Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Arizona, USA Posts: 47	I've seen the AI convert AI MR's to CL's. This has happened when there was no longer a CL on the roster and it looks like the best MR was converted.