Hidden ratings, formula problems, or cheat detector?

Skipaway · 12-22-2003, 01:14 PM

I got bored and used some editor to create an all 100 pitcher. Here are his stats:

In AAA,
26 game started/ 174 IP/ 144 HA/ 139 R/ 139 ER/ 0 BB/ 234 K/ 8 CG/ 0.83 WHIP/ 7.19 ERA

Basically this guy give up 139 homeruns in 174 games with nothing else.

All visible ratings are at 100, and all RPG attributes at 5.

Ankhiel · 12-22-2003, 01:43 PM

try to bring him in the big show, and see what happens...

game might have a flaw somewhere

Autism Speaks · 12-22-2003, 02:27 PM

Where'd you get the editor?

j24mac · 12-22-2003, 05:29 PM

i would like the location of the editor you found also, something to play around with, thanks

Chicagophil · 12-22-2003, 07:45 PM

Looks as if your super pitcher just threw fastballs. either strike out or home run....

Skipaway · 12-22-2003, 07:52 PM

It's not an ITP editor, just a memory editor.

Skipaway · 12-23-2003, 01:02 AM

There are indeed issues with all 100 ratings. I tried a pitcher with all 96s, and he became a stud ace. However, once those 96 developed to the level of 100( actually only stuff and control at 100, others inbetween 96 and 100) , he became the spot starter and started to give up nothing but homeruns in every game.

Skipaway · 12-23-2003, 01:05 AM

Date Opp. Result Start IP H R ER BB K Dec
4/30 @Cle W 7-0 * 9 7 0 0 0 11 W PoG
5/4 @Tor W 8-1 * 9 4 1 1 0 7 W PoG
5/10 Tor L 1-5 * 1 6 5 5 0 1 L
5/16 @Bos L 4-13 2.2 4 4 4 0 1
5/18 @Bos L 9-14 0.1 2 2 2 0 1 L
5/20 Bal L 4-8 1.2 0 0 0 0 1

What happened inbetween 5/4 and 5/10 was just rating growth to 100. Must be a rating bug?

Skipaway · 12-24-2003, 02:27 AM

Nobody knows this? A bug for pitchers with all 100s?

yankeesrule · 12-24-2003, 02:57 AM

I also find that as players ratings are at the max(100), they decline. My batter dropped from a .370 hitter when he was at 90. Then when he got a talent upgrade to 100 he dropped down to .330

dsvitak · 12-24-2003, 06:57 AM

A bug for all pitchers with 100.

You have GOT to be kidding!

Do you think this game was programmed to allow or 100's across the board?

I would be stunned if the program even worked with the values edited so severely.

...and then to call that a bug? Are you joking?

yankeesrule · 12-24-2003, 09:56 AM

actually, for a batter you can get 100's across the board. With talent upgrades and all, i've gotten my normal lvl player up to 90 contact, 70 power, 70 gap, and 100 eye at 22

Skipaway · 12-24-2003, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dsvitak
A bug for all pitchers with 100.

You have GOT to be kidding!

Do you think this game was programmed to allow or 100's across the board?

I would be stunned if the program even worked with the values edited so severely.

...and then to call that a bug? Are you joking?

Well, 100 is the limit set by the game itself, not me. I'm basically doing something a regular game tester would do, checking out the boundary conditions. What do you think all those built-in cheats in some other games are for? Just good tools for beta testers.

Skipaway · 12-24-2003, 10:41 AM

I tested again and tried a pitcher like this:

100 in Stuff, Control, and Poise. 10 in Velocity.

This is definitely achieveable without editing. At least 108 skill points needed, and possible in Pathetic or Easy mode.

And viola! same thing again.

In two games, this guy pitched 18 innings, giving up 11 hits, all homeruns, no BBs, 35Ks.

I think this is really a bug.

Markus Heinsohn · 12-24-2003, 10:56 AM

This is a bug and got fixed in 1.01

12-22-2003, 01:14 PM	#1 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 9,528	Hidden ratings, formula problems, or cheat detector? I got bored and used some editor to create an all 100 pitcher. Here are his stats: In AAA, 26 game started/ 174 IP/ 144 HA/ 139 R/ 139 ER/ 0 BB/ 234 K/ 8 CG/ 0.83 WHIP/ 7.19 ERA Basically this guy give up 139 homeruns in 174 games with nothing else. All visible ratings are at 100, and all RPG attributes at 5. __________________ Confucius: The superior man does not recommend a man because of what he says, nor does he ignore what a man says because of his personality. ria: no

12-22-2003, 01:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ankhiel Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 466	try to bring him in the big show, and see what happens... game might have a flaw somewhere __________________ GM - TWB Expos

12-22-2003, 02:27 PM	#3 (permalink)
Autism Speaks Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Supporting Autism research causes Posts: 2,870	Where'd you get the editor? __________________

12-22-2003, 07:52 PM	#6 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 9,528	It's not an ITP editor, just a memory editor. __________________ Confucius: The superior man does not recommend a man because of what he says, nor does he ignore what a man says because of his personality. ria: no

12-23-2003, 01:02 AM	#7 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 9,528	There are indeed issues with all 100 ratings. I tried a pitcher with all 96s, and he became a stud ace. However, once those 96 developed to the level of 100( actually only stuff and control at 100, others inbetween 96 and 100) , he became the spot starter and started to give up nothing but homeruns in every game. __________________ Confucius: The superior man does not recommend a man because of what he says, nor does he ignore what a man says because of his personality. ria: no

12-22-2003, 05:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
j24mac Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 14	i would like the location of the editor you found also, something to play around with, thanks

12-22-2003, 07:45 PM	#5 (permalink)
Chicagophil Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 29	Looks as if your super pitcher just threw fastballs. either strike out or home run....

12-23-2003, 01:05 AM	#8 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 9,528	Date Opp. Result Start IP H R ER BB K Dec 4/30 @Cle W 7-0 * 9 7 0 0 0 11 W PoG 5/4 @Tor W 8-1 * 9 4 1 1 0 7 W PoG 5/10 Tor L 1-5 * 1 6 5 5 0 1 L 5/16 @Bos L 4-13 2.2 4 4 4 0 1 5/18 @Bos L 9-14 0.1 2 2 2 0 1 L 5/20 Bal L 4-8 1.2 0 0 0 0 1 What happened inbetween 5/4 and 5/10 was just rating growth to 100. Must be a rating bug? __________________ Confucius: The superior man does not recommend a man because of what he says, nor does he ignore what a man says because of his personality. ria: no

12-24-2003, 02:27 AM	#9 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 9,528	Nobody knows this? A bug for pitchers with all 100s? __________________ Confucius: The superior man does not recommend a man because of what he says, nor does he ignore what a man says because of his personality. ria: no

12-24-2003, 02:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
yankeesrule All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,096	I also find that as players ratings are at the max(100), they decline. My batter dropped from a .370 hitter when he was at 90. Then when he got a talent upgrade to 100 he dropped down to .330

12-24-2003, 06:57 AM	#11 (permalink)
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,536 Warnings: 1	A bug for all pitchers with 100. You have GOT to be kidding! Do you think this game was programmed to allow or 100's across the board? I would be stunned if the program even worked with the values edited so severely. ...and then to call that a bug? Are you joking?

12-24-2003, 09:56 AM	#12 (permalink)
yankeesrule All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,096	actually, for a batter you can get 100's across the board. With talent upgrades and all, i've gotten my normal lvl player up to 90 contact, 70 power, 70 gap, and 100 eye at 22

12-24-2003, 10:41 AM	#14 (permalink)
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 9,528	I tested again and tried a pitcher like this: 100 in Stuff, Control, and Poise. 10 in Velocity. This is definitely achieveable without editing. At least 108 skill points needed, and possible in Pathetic or Easy mode. And viola! same thing again. In two games, this guy pitched 18 innings, giving up 11 hits, all homeruns, no BBs, 35Ks. I think this is really a bug. __________________ Confucius: The superior man does not recommend a man because of what he says, nor does he ignore what a man says because of his personality. ria: no

12-24-2003, 10:56 AM	#15 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 9,448	This is a bug and got fixed in 1.01

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