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Old 07-10-2008, 08:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Jersey Making Help

I'm still very new to the mod-making community, and I was wondering if some of the more experienced jersey makers out there could help me out.

I'm using GIMP 2.0 and Deft's template to make a bunch of jerseys, and I've figured out how to make fairly basic ones. However, I'm still not entirely sure how the different pieces of the jersey picture fit together. For example, I have no idea how to make jerseys with ornamentation that starts on the side of the jersey and continues up to the shoulder/arm area, like these:
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How would you guys go about making those, especially the blue arrow things on the yellow jersey?

If anyone has a sort of diagram that shows how the various sub-images are knitted together by facegen, that would be of enormous help as well.

Thanks so much!
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For creating the jerseys, there are a group of layers and layer subsets (folders with multiple layers inside them) that can be toggled on and off. They are organized in a cascading fashion such that each one lays on top of the one below. So the best way to become familiar with my template is to turn everything on and successively turn each layer off to know where things are found.

For these jerseys, it would require new layers to be created. There are some similar ideas in the Ultra-Modern layer subset in the template.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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For creating the jerseys, there are a group of layers and layer subsets (folders with multiple layers inside them) that can be toggled on and off. They are organized in a cascading fashion such that each one lays on top of the one below. So the best way to become familiar with my template is to turn everything on and successively turn each layer off to know where things are found.

For these jerseys, it would require new layers to be created. There are some similar ideas in the Ultra-Modern layer subset in the template.
Very cool, I didn't know you had a new template out. Is the ultra-modern layer subset in version 2.0? If so, what layer subset are you referring to. GIMP may not support layer subsets, but I don't see any ultra-modern layers like that.

Thanks for the new version, though. I've been working hard on trying to get striped arms looking nice, and now it's already been done.
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GIMP may not support layer subsets
In my opinion, Gimp seems to be well-suited for doing logos - but not as good for doing uniforms. My personal choice for doing uniforms is the free download Paint.net. It allows invisible backgrounds (indispensable) and, of course, layers - but other types of paint programs also allow layers. I think that doing uniforms in layers makes the process much easier.

In any event, here is a sort of mini-tutorial about doing uniforms in layers. It is a compilation of posts that I have done, and may be of some use to you - even if you don't do layers.

Help with a bunch of uniforms

Hope this will help you.
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This image should help. You would have to paint part of the design on the front and part on the sleeves. You don't have to paint the design on the back since you can't view that part. The top of the shoulders shows in-game when you paint the back. Try painting each section a different color. Copy the file to your game folder and look at the different views/zooms so you can see how everything aligns. Take some screenshots and print the pictures.
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This image should help. You would have to paint part of the design on the front and part on the sleeves. You don't have to paint the design on the back since you can't view that part. The top of the shoulders shows in-game when you paint the back. Try painting each section a different color. Copy the file to your game folder and look at the different views/zooms so you can see how everything aligns. Take some screenshots and print the pictures.
Good job! To add to your treatment, I'll post some of the uniforms that I did so that it can be seen how the parts play out. A picture is worth a thousand words.

Keep in mind that these jerseys were done in multiple layers and then "flattened" for the final product. While it is certainly possible to design a complete uniform on just one layer - I certainly wouldn't want to do it!
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