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Old 08-26-2009, 10:52 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Pitcher gets save with team leading by 6 runs in 9th?

I just played a game where my pitcher was credited with a save, that he probably shouldn't have been. He did pitch 2 innings, but he entered the 9th inning with a 8-2 lead, and the opposition did not get anyone on base in the 9th. The only way this could be considered a "save" would be to say the official scorer considered him to pitch effectively when entering the game with a lead, however this is usually for at least 3 innings and is rarely used IRL since most relievers almost never pitch more than 2 innings anymore...

Just something that needs to be looked at---he should not have received a save in this situation, IMHO...
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A save is credited based on when the pitcher enters the game, not what the score is in the 9th. If it was a save situation when the pitcher entered the game and he finishes the game without surrendering the lead, he will be credited with a save. I assume it was 3 runs or less lead going into the 8th. This rule is true in real life as well.
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A save is credited based on when the pitcher enters the game, not what the score is in the 9th. If it was a save situation when the pitcher entered the game and he finishes the game without surrendering the lead, he will be credited with a save. I assume it was 3 runs or less lead going into the 8th. This rule is true in real life as well.
Thanks for the clarification..

This is indeed what happened then...I was leading 4-2 going into the 8th, and then scored 4 additional runs in the bottom of the 8th to make it 8-2...
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Did he enter the game with a lead of 3 runs or less?
Did he finish the game without relinquishing the lead?

If yes, he gets the save, the second stupidest stat in baseball.
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Did he enter the game with a lead of 3 runs or less?
Did he finish the game without relinquishing the lead?

If yes, he gets the save, the second stupidest stat in baseball.
What is the stupidest then, the blown save

I always thought GW RBI was pretty stupid.
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The stupidest stat is obviously the Win (for pitchers).
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I just played a game where my pitcher was credited with a save, that he probably shouldn't have been. He did pitch 2 innings, but he entered the 9th inning with a 8-2 lead, and the opposition did not get anyone on base in the 9th. The only way this could be considered a "save" would be to say the official scorer considered him to pitch effectively when entering the game with a lead, however this is usually for at least 3 innings and is rarely used IRL since most relievers almost never pitch more than 2 innings anymore...

Just something that needs to be looked at---he should not have received a save in this situation, IMHO...
There is no "effectively" in the rule anymore either: Save - BR Bullpen
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As this is how the save rule is supposed to work, this thread will be closed for housekeeping purposes.
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