OOTP 10 - Preorder now and save $10 + get the game 2 days early! - Page 5

RchW · 02-20-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cha0sbreaker

So I've been playing OOTP since I believe OOTP 5 when I was a wee little high schooler... and now I'm a UMass Sport Management major that is still in love with this game. Once I saw this email I immediately preordered... THEN read the new feature list and was absolutely blown away. THANK YOU Markus.

I hope you spread the word amongst those you go to school with.

My annual pre-order is in. This game, no matter what my complaints are, never fails to interest and to energize me. It is totally worth every penny I spend.

Hurry spring!

PotatoPeeler · 02-20-2009, 01:18 AM

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Originally Posted by treedom

That's pretty disappointing. I was hoping I could use it in Windows & Linux. I can't decide which way to go.

It's extremely disappointing. I have a feeling I won't be ordering until more details are made available. What makes PISD so much more vulnerable on the PC than on Mac and Linux?

kq76 · 02-20-2009, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by PotatoPeeler

It's extremely disappointing. I have a feeling I won't be ordering until more details are made available. What makes PISD so much more vulnerable on the PC than on Mac and Linux?

I really don't know, but my best guess is that since PISD's system is relatively new and probably not really yet tested by hackers that OOTP tested it by releasing it via linux last time and found that didn't get pirated (and even if it had it probably wouldn't have hurt their sales too much). Now maybe they're confident to take a bit more risk and test a release of it on mac, which might hurt them a fair bit if it gets pirated on macs, but not as much as it would if the PC release got pirated (if that happened we might all just have to kiss goodbye to our hobby). If that's the case then I'd say that's probably pretty smart and I'd support them fully in that choice. Maybe a few months after OOTP10 is released and nothing bad happens then they'll be confident to test a PC release via PISD then.

Base Stealer · 02-20-2009, 03:05 AM

Congratulations on the nice new features....waiting for system spec info and then ready to preorder

myasu · 02-20-2009, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Base Stealer

Congratulations on the nice new features....waiting for system spec info and then ready to preorder

Base Stealer,

I think the system spec info is provided at the link here.

(Look at the right side of the page.)

If these are not enough, I guess you'd have to ask for more info.

Preorder Out of the Park Baseball 10

Base Stealer · 02-20-2009, 03:27 AM

ok...now it's time to preorder

pisdpaul · 02-20-2009, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by PotatoPeeler

It's extremely disappointing. I have a feeling I won't be ordering until more details are made available. What makes PISD so much more vulnerable on the PC than on Mac and Linux?

I detailed answer here is top secret for obvious reasons. The main contributing factor is that I work on Linux and Macs and know them well, whereas I have not used a Windows PC in quite a few years now which means it takes me longer to make sure things are up to our required standard.

If it helps, we too are frustrated that the windows version was not ready.

gamefan1978 · 02-20-2009, 06:57 AM

Preordered OOTP 10. Can't wait to play.

myasu · 02-20-2009, 07:28 AM

Pre-ordered it!
Can't wait for the release!

Reikazawa · 02-20-2009, 07:57 AM

I didn't read any features involving defense/defensive stats. Pretty please, let there be.

Qrusher14242 · 02-20-2009, 08:13 AM

i thought elicense was secure? i've only seen OOTP 2006 cracked, but that was years ago. Havent seen anything since

Deft · 02-20-2009, 08:49 AM

Bought. I haven't looked at OOTPX yet, but I will always put my money on Markus.

WSR · 02-20-2009, 09:02 AM

Pre-Order completed. Can't wait!

PotatoPeeler · 02-20-2009, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pisdpaul

I detailed answer here is top secret for obvious reasons. The main contributing factor is that I work on Linux and Macs and know them well, whereas I have not used a Windows PC in quite a few years now which means it takes me longer to make sure things are up to our required standard.

If it helps, we too are frustrated that the windows version was not ready.

Thanks, Paul. That's all the granularity I was looking for. Any ideas on what kind of time frame we could see this being ready for Windows?

thbroman · 02-20-2009, 10:15 AM

Wow, a reworking of the pitching system. That alone probably will push me off the fence about making an annual contribution. Even if it doesn't work flawlessly in this release, I admire your willingness to wade into the thicket of this issue.

A question, though: I have to confess myself slightly skeptical about whether the new pitching system will be able to evaluate a pitcher on the number of good pitches he throws. One reason why relievers are relievers, for example, is that many of them don't have more than 2 good pitches (some only 1!

), and that makes them suspect when they have to face a batter more than once, which is one reason why they are replaced so quickly. Does the new system take into account the assortment of pitches, along with the absolute value of the best one? I ask because one *ahem!* slightly cynical way of reading the new system would be to say that it parses into individual pitch ratings what was formerly a single number in earlier versions. So the result is the same, it's just the interface shows numbers for the pithces.

That worry aside, though, this looks promising.

JackRules1 · 02-20-2009, 10:16 AM

I like the Team Leaderboards, and also Manager of the Year (how about Series MVP's???)

Markus Heinsohn · 02-20-2009, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by thbroman

A question, though: I have to confess myself slightly skeptical about whether the new pitching system will be able to evaluate a pitcher on the number of good pitches he throws. One reason why relievers are relievers, for example, is that many of them don't have more than 2 good pitches (some only 1!

), and that makes them suspect when they have to face a batter more than once, which is one reason why they are replaced so quickly. Does the new system take into account the assortment of pitches, along with the absolute value of the best one? I ask because one *ahem!* slightly cynical way of reading the new system would be to say that it parses into individual pitch ratings what was formerly a single number in earlier versions. So the result is the same, it's just the interface shows numbers for the pithces.

That worry aside, though, this looks promising.

Don't worry... the plan is to tie the number of pitches and their ratings together to determine wether a pitcher can be successful as a starter at a given level.

Bobbuttons · 02-20-2009, 10:32 AM

Have human managers been given actual contracts with monetary amounts yet? Every other GM/Manager in the game gets that, so why don't we?

Also, I'd really love to see this game (not necessarily this incarnation, but future versions) really do something about the GM/Manager model. For example, you get wins added to your managerial win total as a human manager, even if you are a GM and have hired an AI manager. I believe that you should have the option to do both or either job. As coach, you would be at the mercy of your GM when it comes to front office stuff, but would have control over your team strategy and game to game things. GMs would not have as much say in those things if you chose that route. One reason I say this is that for a game that tries to be the most realistic simulation experience of baseball, going from managing a AA or AAA ball club to becoming a GM is a bit unrealistic. Getting a gig as a manager, though, would be more realistic, then after a while getting an offer to GM another club or do both.

I look forward to the game and I anticipate another quality product, but the whole human manager/GM setup annoys me.

thbroman · 02-20-2009, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Don't worry... the plan is to tie the number of pitches and their ratings together to determine wether a pitcher can be successful as a starter at a given level.

What a terrific piece of news, Markus. And as I said, even if it has a few flaws in its first iteration, I am bowled over by your willingness to dive into this.

Kelric · 02-20-2009, 11:38 AM

I have to ask...

Are we finally going to have a franchise encyclopedia page for pitchers that looks like this instead of the jumbled mess it is now? Pitchers really need to have their consecutive seasons tied together. The current setup is horrible. That's the only thing I'm requesting to get in before release (since I know my development report won't be).

02-20-2009, 03:05 AM	#84 (permalink)
Base Stealer Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 120 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4x in 4 posts	Congratulations on the nice new features....waiting for system spec info and then ready to preorder __________________ Endure. In endurance grow strong.

02-20-2009, 03:27 AM	#86 (permalink)
Base Stealer Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Italy Posts: 120 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4x in 4 posts	ok...now it's time to preorder __________________ Endure. In endurance grow strong.

02-20-2009, 07:28 AM	#89 (permalink)
myasu All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Tokyo, Japan Posts: 1,493 Thanks: 136 Thanked 43x in 24 posts	Pre-ordered it! Can't wait for the release! __________________ myasu Bill Spaceman Lee- "The other day they asked me about mandatory drug testing. I said I believed in drug testing a long time ago. All through the sixties I tested everything."

02-20-2009, 08:13 AM	#91 (permalink)
Qrusher14242 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CA Posts: 1,145 Thanks: 605 Thanked 11x in 9 posts	i thought elicense was secure? i've only seen OOTP 2006 cracked, but that was years ago. Havent seen anything since __________________ "Go then, there are other worlds than these"

02-20-2009, 08:49 AM	#92 (permalink)
Deft All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 789 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 1 post	Bought. I haven't looked at OOTPX yet, but I will always put my money on Markus. __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2020 World Champions Consolidated Jersey Styles Jersey and Cap GIMP/Photoshop Templates 3.0

02-20-2009, 06:57 AM	#88 (permalink)
gamefan1978 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Iowa Posts: 13 Thanks: 18 Thanked 3x in 2 posts	Preordered OOTP 10. Can't wait to play.

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Reikazawa Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 230 Thanks: 39 Thanked 14x in 11 posts	I didn't read any features involving defense/defensive stats. Pretty please, let there be.

02-20-2009, 09:02 AM	#93 (permalink)
WSR Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tarzana, CA Posts: 172 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Pre-Order completed. Can't wait!

02-20-2009, 10:15 AM	#95 (permalink)
thbroman All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 823 Thanks: 15 Thanked 59x in 34 posts	Wow, a reworking of the pitching system. That alone probably will push me off the fence about making an annual contribution. Even if it doesn't work flawlessly in this release, I admire your willingness to wade into the thicket of this issue. A question, though: I have to confess myself slightly skeptical about whether the new pitching system will be able to evaluate a pitcher on the number of good pitches he throws. One reason why relievers are relievers, for example, is that many of them don't have more than 2 good pitches (some only 1! ), and that makes them suspect when they have to face a batter more than once, which is one reason why they are replaced so quickly. Does the new system take into account the assortment of pitches, along with the absolute value of the best one? I ask because one ahem! slightly cynical way of reading the new system would be to say that it parses into individual pitch ratings what was formerly a single number in earlier versions. So the result is the same, it's just the interface shows numbers for the pithces. That worry aside, though, this looks promising. Last edited by thbroman; 02-20-2009 at 10:17 AM.

02-20-2009, 10:16 AM	#96 (permalink)
JackRules1 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Durham, NH Posts: 190 Thanks: 56 Thanked 23x in 16 posts	I like the Team Leaderboards, and also Manager of the Year (how about Series MVP's???)

02-20-2009, 10:32 AM	#98 (permalink)
Bobbuttons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Akron, OH, My Own Personal Hell Posts: 3,572 Thanks: 55 Thanked 193x in 90 posts	Have human managers been given actual contracts with monetary amounts yet? Every other GM/Manager in the game gets that, so why don't we? Also, I'd really love to see this game (not necessarily this incarnation, but future versions) really do something about the GM/Manager model. For example, you get wins added to your managerial win total as a human manager, even if you are a GM and have hired an AI manager. I believe that you should have the option to do both or either job. As coach, you would be at the mercy of your GM when it comes to front office stuff, but would have control over your team strategy and game to game things. GMs would not have as much say in those things if you chose that route. One reason I say this is that for a game that tries to be the most realistic simulation experience of baseball, going from managing a AA or AAA ball club to becoming a GM is a bit unrealistic. Getting a gig as a manager, though, would be more realistic, then after a while getting an offer to GM another club or do both. I look forward to the game and I anticipate another quality product, but the whole human manager/GM setup annoys me. __________________ Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw!

02-20-2009, 11:38 AM	#100 (permalink)
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,983 Thanks: 7 Thanked 46x in 36 posts	I have to ask... Are we finally going to have a franchise encyclopedia page for pitchers that looks like this instead of the jumbled mess it is now? Pitchers really need to have their consecutive seasons tied together. The current setup is horrible. That's the only thing I'm requesting to get in before release (since I know my development report won't be). __________________ Former Co-Commish and owner of the Boston Red Sox, 1783-1144, .609%, of the defunct Overlords Baseball League (1930-48). 17 Division wins, 9 ALCS wins, 5 World Series wins.

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