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Old 02-19-2009, 07:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Purchase of Contracts

Will we be able to purchase player contracts from other teams/leagues?
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Will we be able to purchase player contracts from other teams/leagues?
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I really want that too, otherwise Indy leagues can never be accurate
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I'm in this camp, too. This would be an amazing addition.
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I really want that too, otherwise Indy leagues can never be accurate
Agreed. It would be a lot of fun.
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Old 02-20-2009, 09:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Say it with me, everyone: financial systerm and league interaction overhaul.

This is what we want to not only get proper reserve clause era financials, but also better and more realistic historical league finances and more accurate and realistic league/team relationships and structures.
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Say it with me, everyone: financial systerm and league interaction overhaul.

This is what we want to not only get proper reserve clause era financials, but also better and more realistic historical league finances and more accurate and realistic league/team relationships and structures.
I think if that was going to happen in this version, it would have been one of the major features listed, no?

I'd settle for small steps, purchasing contracts would be that for me
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I would love to see a proper reserve clause financial structure in place!
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Oddly enough, that was the first thing I read in the new OOTP 10 thread. However, that means nothing. This feature is something that has been recommended many times for past versions, and I can easily read the suggestions for 10, and get a dozen or more. If they are altering the Arbitration system amongst others, why not simply add the ability to purchase contracts?
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Oddly enough, that was the first thing I read in the new OOTP 10 thread. However, that means nothing. This feature is something that has been recommended many times for past versions, and I can easily read the suggestions for 10, and get a dozen or more. If they are altering the Arbitration system amongst others, why not simply add the ability to purchase contracts?
This along with minor league contracts with bonuses are the two things that need to be added to this game more than anything. Those two things completely change the way you interact with players outside of your central league. Judging by the way they are doing the draft contracts, i highly doubt they add the feature of MiLB contracts with bonuses.

Purchasing contracts would also go along way towards allowing me to create a world in OOTP very much like the real life baseball world.
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Oddly enough, that was the first thing I read in the new OOTP 10 thread. However, that means nothing. This feature is something that has been recommended many times for past versions, and I can easily read the suggestions for 10, and get a dozen or more. If they are altering the Arbitration system amongst others, why not simply add the ability to purchase contracts?
I don't disagree. I also don't hold out much hope for a solid answer from OOTP until such time, much like the current "new features", they have a workable solution.
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I think if that was going to happen in this version, it would have been one of the major features listed, no?
That's right. But it's never too early to start the groundswell of support for an important OOTP cause.

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I would love to see a proper reserve clause financial structure in place!
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If they are altering the Arbitration system amongst others, why not simply add the ability to purchase contracts?
I would guess because they are first going to get the game to more accurately represent current day baseball in terms of rules and transactions, then later on add more support for earlier eras. There isn't much purchasing of contracts (i.e. player sales) going on today as compared to, say, fifty years ago.

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This along with minor league contracts with bonuses are the two things that need to be added to this game more than anything. Those two things completely change the way you interact with players outside of your central league.
And to do that right, with all the aspects that entails, means a carefully thought out, comprehensive system. Get the base structure right, and recreating practically anything from baseball's history becomes possible. Get it wrong or not fully thought out, means a lot of kludges and workarounds later.
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I would guess because they are first going to get the game to more accurately represent current day baseball in terms of rules and transactions, then later on add more support for earlier eras. There isn't much purchasing of contracts (i.e. player sales) going on today as compared to, say, fifty years ago.
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I would say it happens at least a 50-60 times a season in current day baseball
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And to do that right, with all the aspects that entails, means a carefully thought out, comprehensive system. Get the base structure right, and recreating practically anything from baseball's history becomes possible. Get it wrong or not fully thought out, means a lot of kludges and workarounds later.
Yes, obviously it would take a very solid degree of programming to dissallow fluky minor league contracts and at the same time allow for accurate minor league deals provided to guys with all types of future potential.

But i agree wholely with what you said about how you could truely recreate so much of the real baseball world a whole lot more accurately with this implementation, especially in the leagues that date before the the actual amatuer draft took place. This implementation alone would open a whole other type of game play to me that would be very, very exciting.
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I would say it happens at least a 50-60 times a season in current day baseball
Are you talking about when a major league club "purchases" the contract of a player from its minor league system to add him to the major league active list? That's not really a player purchase the way I would think of the term. When I think of player purchases, I think of reserve clause era baseball and the sale of players from one team to another, sometimes as a source of quick cash to the club selling the player.
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No I'm talking about Major league organizations purchasing players from Independent teams to fill holes in their minor league systems
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No I'm talking about Major league organizations purchasing players from Independent teams to fill holes in their minor league systems
Yep, and there are more and more foriegn league contracts that get purchased every year as well.

Plus, this would add alot of depth in the way you could play this game.
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No I'm talking about Major league organizations purchasing players from Independent teams to fill holes in their minor league systems
Yeah, having the ability to add independent leagues and not having this feature defeats a healthy amount of the purpose in my view.
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